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ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 17 @ 6:19 PM ET
Wilson isn’t anywhere close to Simmonds. Simmonds scores 30 every year or at least close to. Simmonds isn’t dirty and respected by opposing players. Simmonds was top three in power play goals most seasons. Heck, I’m pretty sure I’ve seen Simmonds smack Wilson around a couple times.
- SuperSchennBros

That’s all good but at 5v5 they are extremely similar stat wise and if you watched him the past couple years he has a great impact on the game for the Caps. I’m not saying he was better than Wayne but he is damn efficient in a similar role outside of the PP
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 17 @ 6:30 PM ET
jim jacksokson so bad as flyer tv guy

wow so bad adn not stankley cup stuck with da ;phillies
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 17 @ 6:31 PM ET
jim jacksokson so bad as flyer tv guy

wow so bad adn not stankley cup stuck with da ;phillies

- penguininnevada

rudy guiliani was rite
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:33 PM ET
That’s all good but at 5v5 they are extremely similar stat wise and if you watched him the past couple years he has a great impact on the game for the Caps. I’m not saying he was better than Wayne but he is damn efficient in a similar role outside of the PP
- ClaudeFather


I agree. Not saying Wilson is a “better” player. Just in terms of the impact they have on a game, I certainly think a reasonable argument could be made for either. Especially at 5v5, since IMO Wilson is a far superior skater than Wayne ever was.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 17 @ 6:38 PM ET
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Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jan 17 @ 6:43 PM ET
Agree they are all higher skill. Thats kind of the argument. Wilson is unique because he has all thst skill but ultimately doesn't completely live up to it and still gets into way too many boneheaded situations. He could potentially be tkachuck or benn
- Tfaehner


Ah, gotcha. I see what you’re saying now. I guess to me, I never viewed Wilson to be
that skilled. I see physicality & aggressiveness to be his two strongest attributes, and he manages to combine them with enough skill & skating ability to play with variety of different types of line mates.
Now of course those attributes Occasionally lead to stupid penalties & dirty plays. Again, I’m no fanboy. Just thought it was odd that he seems so unique.

Good stuff. I’m out for the night.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 17 @ 6:44 PM ET
trade giroux no cups dlknm until gone, the heavy weight of the c
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 17 @ 6:46 PM ET
Agree they are all higher skill. Thats kind of the argument. Wilson is unique because he has all thst skill but ultimately doesn't completely live up to it and still gets into way too many boneheaded situations. He could potentially be tkachuck or benn
- Tfaehner

I would still love to have him. Others will say no. But would love if he or Brady t.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 17 @ 6:47 PM ET
trade giroux no cups dlknm until gone, the heavy weight of the c
- penguininnevada

After Sid retires, where do you think the pens will relocate too?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Jan 17 @ 6:49 PM ET
jim jacksokson so bad as flyer tv guy

wow so bad adn not stankley cup stuck with da ;phillies

- penguininnevada


I’ve seen games on root sports. I can understand your confusion in hearing someone who knows the game to puffery.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 17 @ 7:00 PM ET
I agree. Not saying Wilson is a “better” player. Just in terms of the impact they have on a game, I certainly think a reasonable argument could be made for either. Especially at 5v5, since IMO Wilson is a far superior skater than Wayne ever was.
- Big_E_88

Yea Wilson is a great skater, if you watch the caps you see how effective he is out there. Today he pressured that Dman and created one of those goals.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Jan 17 @ 7:25 PM ET
Yea Wilson is a great skater, if you watch the caps you see how effective he is out there. Today he pressured that Dman and created one of those goals.
- ClaudeFather


Probably a better skater than Simmer. But if Simmer had played with Bacstrom and AO and on that pp, he would likely have potted 40.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 17 @ 7:47 PM ET
After Sid retires, where do you think the pens will relocate too?
- Peter Richards

Kansas Penis master Chefs
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 17 @ 8:03 PM ET
I just found a longer version of the Jake Incident. Konency gets asked a question right after and he starts smiling big and looks to be holding in his laughter.
SuperSchennBros
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Jan 17 @ 8:06 PM ET
That’s all good but at 5v5 they are extremely similar stat wise and if you watched him the past couple years he has a great impact on the game for the Caps. I’m not saying he was better than Wayne but he is damn efficient in a similar role outside of the PP
- ClaudeFather


I don’t see it. Wilson is dirty, prone to bad penalties just for being a bully and less offensively gifted than Simmonds. Is Wilson a better skater? Fine, sure. That makes Simmonds even more impressive to put up the goals he has pretty consistently.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 17 @ 8:11 PM ET
I would still love to have him. Others will say no. But would love if he or Brady t.
- Peter Richards


Not saying I wouldnt want him. But people forget he was a mid first round pick. He was expected to be a Jamie benn Brady tkachuck. His current role is below what they believed he was going to be. Still would take him.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 17 @ 9:39 PM ET
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- penguininnevada

Agree! What a hunk and a monster QB!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 17 @ 9:43 PM ET
Probably a better skater than Simmer. But if Simmer had played with Bacstrom and AO and on that pp, he would likely have potted 40.
- PT21


Giroux was as good if not better on the PP than Backstrom as the PP QB on the half wall when Simmonds was in his PP prime.
penguininnevada
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: member of the honor roll, assistant to the assistant manager of the movie theater
Joined: 09.01.2008

Jan 17 @ 9:55 PM ET
Giroux was as good if not better on the PP than Backstrom as the PP QB on the half wall when Simmonds was in his PP prime.
- MJL

wtf r u talking about willis
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:27 PM ET
I just found a longer version of the Jake Incident. Konency gets asked a question right after and he starts smiling big and looks to be holding in his laughter.
- SuperSchennBros



care to share?
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 17 @ 10:31 PM ET
care to share?
- MBFlyerfan

https://youtu.be/TsjcNuw1_XA
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 17 @ 10:49 PM ET
https://youtu.be/TsjcNuw1_XA
- SuperSchennBros

generalripper
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jan 18 @ 1:04 AM ET
https://youtu.be/TsjcNuw1_XA
- SuperSchennBros

humorous indeed............ Thanks
Hesh_
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.29.2013

Jan 18 @ 7:14 AM ET
Yea Wilson is a great skater, if you watch the caps you see how effective he is out there. Today he pressured that Dman and created one of those goals.
- ClaudeFather

He’s the fan favorite down here among those who really follow the Caps, and I don’t think it’s close. At least that’s the case with the fans I know.

Plus he’s the kinda guy that before Covid with shake babies and kiss hands at car dealerships and stuff. Carlson, too.

As much as we hate him and his reputation precedes him, Flyers fans would love Wilson if he played for us. Probably every fan base would.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 18 @ 8:24 AM ET
Back to backs vs buffalo today and tomorrow. I expect hart then Elliott to start. Hope Elliott brings the game he did last year and in the playoffs.
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