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DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jan 22 @ 3:35 PM ET
Yeah had a minute and watched the first period of that game. He was horrible. Took big circles whenever he could.

1 point in 5 games. I’m now of the opinion he’s a fvckin diva and ain’t worth a core player.

Edit: If any of you clowns need a good free stream for NHL games or want to watch games from earlier in the year: check out NHL66.ir . Great video quality and you can jump between games and there are other idiots to chat with.

- fry


Anyone watch him in playoffs last year? Different player.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 22 @ 4:53 PM ET
Yeah had a minute and watched the first period of that game. He was horrible. Took big circles whenever he could.

1 point in 5 games. I’m now of the opinion he’s a fvckin diva and ain’t worth a core player.

Edit: If any of you clowns need a good free stream for NHL games or want to watch games from earlier in the year: check out NHL66.ir . Great video quality and you can jump between games and there are other idiots to chat with.

- fry


Used Nhl66 all last winter in Mexico, works great, clear.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 22 @ 11:45 PM ET
Looks like we’re likely out on the PLD sweeps. Don’t get me wrong I was down to trade Mony for him and I’m not just saying this cause I’m bummed but I’m not upset we’re not getting him either.

His recent play/attitude aside this guy is going to be looking for big money on his next contract and I’m not quite sure he’s worth it. Sure he’s a solid 1C and he brings a well rounded game but to date he averages around .75 points per game. He may only be 22 but I’m just not sold that he has the offensive upside that’s worth paying 9 million a year.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 12:13 AM ET
Looks like we’re likely out on the PLD sweeps. Don’t get me wrong I was down to trade Mony for him and I’m not just saying this cause I’m bummed but I’m not upset we’re not getting him either.

His recent play/attitude aside this guy is going to be looking for big money on his next contract and I’m not quite sure he’s worth it. Sure he’s a solid 1C and he brings a well rounded game but to date he averages around .75 points per game. He may only be 22 but I’m just not sold that he has the offensive upside that’s worth paying 9 million a year.

- RedC21

What? He’s signed for 2 years dude! If a fair deal can be made you do it! In 2 years the Flames will have bigger problems. Wow!!!
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 12:15 AM ET
Looks like we’re likely out on the PLD sweeps. Don’t get me wrong I was down to trade Mony for him and I’m not just saying this cause I’m bummed but I’m not upset we’re not getting him either.

His recent play/attitude aside this guy is going to be looking for big money on his next contract and I’m not quite sure he’s worth it. Sure he’s a solid 1C and he brings a well rounded game but to date he averages around .75 points per game. He may only be 22 but I’m just not sold that he has the offensive upside that’s worth paying 9 million a year.

- RedC21

Anyway my guess is the Jets! Can’t wait until he has to deal with Chucky...
Squilliam
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2015

Jan 23 @ 1:01 AM ET
Anyway my guess is the Jets! Can’t wait until he has to deal with Chucky...
- Chuckywhip


Same just makes sense to go to jets, flames can't give up a laine caliber player. They could trade monny, doubt they will and I don't think they'd trade gaudreau either
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 23 @ 2:43 AM ET
What? He’s signed for 2 years dude! If a fair deal can be made you do it! In 2 years the Flames will have bigger problems. Wow!!!
- Chuckywhip


I was more so just looking at the bright side. In 2 years we also have tkachuck, Gaudreau and Mangiapane contracts up as well as new contracts for Dube & valimaki this coming off-season. Even then with giordano’s contract expiring plus the steals that lindholm and andersson are on we could handle it. I just prefer not to overpay players
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 11:24 AM ET
BT missed an opportunity there!
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 11:26 AM ET
I was more so just looking at the bright side. In 2 years we also have tkachuck, Gaudreau and Mangiapane contracts up as well as new contracts for Dube & valimaki this coming off-season. Even then with giordano’s contract expiring plus the steals that lindholm and andersson are on we could handle it. I just prefer not to overpay players
- RedC21

Really hard to avoid in some cases.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:27 AM ET
A
BT missed an opportunity there!
- Chuckywhip


Agree
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 23 @ 11:28 AM ET
Really hard to avoid in some cases.
- Chuckywhip


Every GM overpays, it’s called trying to save your job.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 11:33 AM ET
Every GM overpays, it’s called trying to save your job.
- K-man25

Yup
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 11:34 AM ET
A

Agree

- K-man25

Can you imagine Laine with Torts?
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 11:37 AM ET
Every GM overpays, it’s called trying to save your job.
- K-man25

A guy on the Jets thread had a good point. Maybe Clb at some point flips Laine for a center.

Monahan plus for Laine... or Johnny for Laine, both left wingers.

DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jan 23 @ 11:40 AM ET
BT missed an opportunity there!
- Chuckywhip


Laine is an absolute game changer but not a complete player. Gotta wonder what Colombus is going to do for a center now.

You have to think that we were in the running.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Jan 23 @ 11:43 AM ET
What happened to Todd? MIA!
Squilliam
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:17 PM ET
What happened to Todd? MIA!
- Chuckywhip


Boozing
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 23 @ 12:48 PM ET
Laine is an absolute game changer but not a complete player. Gotta wonder what Colombus is going to do for a center now.

You have to think that we were in the running.

- DuranDuran


It’s sounds like we were but didn’t make the cut when it came down to 2 or 3 teams. I suspect this is for 1 of 3 reasons:

-Columbus was on monahan’s no trade list

-monahan was too old with not enough term left on his contract for Columbus to be interested in him, plus coming off a down year

-given the second point the blue jackets probably wanted too much in addition to monahan, probably along the lines of Mangiapane/Dube plus a high draft pick.

That 3rd point is likely the case given what the blue jackets did get and I’m happy that we bowed out if so. Dubois does play a better all around game than Mony but statistically he’s not that much better offensively. Think of it like if Dubois is a 1A center we would basically be trading a 1B/at worst a high end 2C, plus another top six forward, plus a 2nd or a 3rd. Feel free to not agree but I think that’s a lot to give up for a marginal improvement
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jan 23 @ 12:56 PM ET
It’s sounds like we were but didn’t make the cut when it came down to 2 or 3 teams. I suspect this is for 1 of 3 reasons:

-Columbus was on monahan’s no trade list

-monahan was too old with not enough term left on his contract for Columbus to be interested in him, plus coming off a down year

-given the second point the blue jackets probably wanted too much in addition to monahan, probably along the lines of Mangiapane/Dube plus a high draft pick.

That 3rd point is likely the case given what the blue jackets did get and I’m happy that we bowed out if so. Dubois does play a better all around game than Mony but statistically he’s not that much better offensively. Think of it like if Dubois is a 1A center we would basically be trading a 1B/at worst a high end 2C, plus another top six forward, plus a 2nd or a 3rd. Feel free to not agree but I think that’s a lot to give up for a marginal improvement

- RedC21



Yeah that is too steep. But damn, I was trying to think of the last time a 1C was available. Seguin?
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 23 @ 1:41 PM ET
Yeah that is too steep. But damn, I was trying to think of the last time a 1C was available. Seguin?
- DuranDuran


Seguin and while I’m not as high on O’reilly as everyone else, are the two most elite. That said I think PLD is more in the territory of Ryan johanson and Matt duchene of recent 1C’s to become available who I also don’t see as a massive upgrade even if that from monahan.

Now that I think of it I’m not even sure PLD beats out lindholm as our 1C. For me the idea of upgrading from monahan was nice but it’s not like this team is hurting for a C or that Dubois would push us much further over the top from where we are now.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jan 23 @ 4:51 PM ET

Anybody see Todd?
Someone check the bathroom.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Jan 23 @ 5:11 PM ET
Seguin and while I’m not as high on O’reilly as everyone else, are the two most elite. That said I think PLD is more in the territory of Ryan johanson and Matt duchene of recent 1C’s to become available who I also don’t see as a massive upgrade even if that from monahan.

Now that I think of it I’m not even sure PLD beats out lindholm as our 1C. For me the idea of upgrading from monahan was nice but it’s not like this team is hurting for a C or that Dubois would push us much further over the top from where we are now.

- RedC21


Idk man. JG and SM are turnover machines and are horrible at defending. Part of the problem with that line is they get cave in a lot. Not sure if PLD would have changed that but they need to figure something out.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jan 23 @ 7:34 PM ET
Idk man. JG and SM are turnover machines and are horrible at defending. Part of the problem with that line is they get cave in a lot. Not sure if PLD would have changed that but they need to figure something out.
- DuranDuran


I agree, I think the difference between PLD and SM is that not only is PLD a better two way player but he provides more energy and is stronger in puck battles. While PLD is absolutely an improvement on monahan for his all around game I think we could partially remedy those exact deficiencies if we slotted Mangiapane on their wing. Or if we like mangi on the tkachuck line, Dube showed in the playoffs last year he can bring those skills as well.

hockey4hockey
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 12.29.2019

Jan 24 @ 4:33 AM ET
Yeah had a minute and watched the first period of that game. He was horrible. Took big circles whenever he could.

1 point in 5 games. I’m now of the opinion he’s a fvckin diva and ain’t worth a core player.

Edit: If any of you clowns need a good free stream for NHL games or want to watch games from earlier in the year: check out NHL66.ir . Great video quality and you can jump between games and there are other idiots to chat with.

- fry


Hey Fry,

Another good app to watch the games is Explorii app, it's on iphone. The cool thing about this app is we can watch games and chat same time. Pretty cool. Also thanks for letting us know about nhl66 site.

Go Flames Go!
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