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HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jan 21 @ 9:30 PM ET
PLD BENCHED!!!! Must have been traded!
Because Torts couldn't be mad at him.
Dick N Cider
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jan 21 @ 9:51 PM ET
PLD BENCHED!!!! Must have been traded!
Because Torts couldn't be mad at him.

- HenryHockey


Torts doesn’t tolerate that b/s, he’ll say he didn’t bench him we all no the truth.
Dick N Cider
Tampa Bay Lightning
Joined: 07.05.2018

Jan 21 @ 10:11 PM ET
PLD BENCHED!!!! Must have been traded!
Because Torts couldn't be mad at him.

- HenryHockey


Plus I think Tampa learned there lesson with whiny frenchmen. My only real issue I had with yzerman Was picking drouin over Jones. we really needed a solid d man at that time.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Jan 21 @ 10:52 PM ET
Plus I think Tampa learned there lesson with whiny frenchmen. My only real issue I had with yzerman Was picking drouin over Jones. we really needed a solid d man at that time.
- Richard N Cider


Their.

And by the way, it's 2 frenchmen who got you a cup : Lecavalier and St.Louis
HenryHockey
Season Ticket Holder
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Gwinn, MI
Joined: 01.26.2020

Jan 21 @ 11:34 PM ET
Their.

And by the way, it's 2 frenchmen who got you a cup : Lecavalier and St.Louis

- Not_Yan

They were not in the Yzer-plan!!
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 5:00 AM ET
I would think that Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick would get this done
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 22 @ 8:23 AM ET
PLD BENCHED!!!! Must have been traded!
Because Torts couldn't be mad at him.

- HenryHockey

This is where I'm genuinely confused, shouldn't Torts play Dubois to increase his trade stock , it's rather self-destructive what he's doing to himself but most importantly for the franchise, now there is a real danger we might end up with Danault
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 22 @ 8:52 AM ET
I would think that Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick would get this done
- stay@home-guy

You an I think alike

But benching PLD and playing him only 4 minutes is unacceptable
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 22 @ 9:48 AM ET
I would think that Zibanejad and a 2nd round pick would get this done
- stay@home-guy

Not after that PLD performance. Zib is not being traded. Possibly Kakko, a protected 1st, a younger defenseman (such as Lindgren) and Strome to make the money work and give Columbus a place-holder center until they can draft PLD's replacement, but his price isn't going up as long as he handles the situation like he did last night.
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 22 @ 10:43 AM ET
This is where I'm genuinely confused, shouldn't Torts play Dubois to increase his trade stock , it's rather self-destructive what he's doing to himself but most importantly for the franchise, now there is a real danger we might end up with Danault
- Alexzanki


That's what you'd normally think - showcase him to drive up the value. But with PLD's lackadaisical, I'm outta here, play you might have 5 skaters on the ice - but only 4 playing hard (5 if you include Korpi).

Also remember PLD was benched for the last several minutes of the last Detroit game for the same type of play. Last night was the last straw for Torts - so stapled to the bench.
Jarmo still should hold out for a good return. And I'd think PLD's agent (Brisson) would get on the phone to him and gently explain that playing like poop doesn't help getting traded.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 11:41 AM ET
Not after that PLD performance. Zib is not being traded. Possibly Kakko, a protected 1st, a younger defenseman (such as Lindgren) and Strome to make the money work and give Columbus a place-holder center until they can draft PLD's replacement, but his price isn't going up as long as he handles the situation like he did last night.
- dashripdot

Have to remember Zib is 5 years older. Kekalainen wants an elite center back so Kakko won't seal the deal.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 22 @ 11:44 AM ET
Not after that PLD performance. Zib is not being traded. Possibly Kakko, a protected 1st, a younger defenseman (such as Lindgren) and Strome to make the money work and give Columbus a place-holder center until they can draft PLD's replacement, but his price isn't going up as long as he handles the situation like he did last night.
- dashripdot

so by your logic we should trade Dubois for Elias Peterson ...fair enough
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
Have to remember Zib is 5 years older. Kekalainen wants an elite center back so Kakko won't seal the deal.
- stay@home-guy

Hard to believe he's going to get an elite center in return from any team. In fact, in light of the recent turn of events, he might have to take a package that's less than what he thought he could get. A team like the Rangers has enough in the pipeline to slightly "overpay" in the current PLD market to get the deal done. The first round pick he gets in return will have to address the need for a longterm solution at center. Things aren't looking up for Jarmo's bargaining position right now, so he can roll the dice by waiting and hoping for PLD to get his head out of his arse, but there's just as much likelihood of the situation going farther south.
dashripdot
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 22 @ 1:59 PM ET
so by your logic we should trade Dubois for Elias Peterson ...fair enough
- Alexzanki

Don't have to trade him at all. Depends on what Columbus wants to accomplish in this shortened season. Start winning games, or have a soap opera for another 40+ games.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 2:30 PM ET
Hard to believe he's going to get an elite center in return from any team. In fact, in light of the recent turn of events, he might have to take a package that's less than what he thought he could get. A team like the Rangers has enough in the pipeline to slightly "overpay" in the current PLD market to get the deal done. The first round pick he gets in return will have to address the need for a longterm solution at center. Things aren't looking up for Jarmo's bargaining position right now, so he can roll the dice by waiting and hoping for PLD to get his head out of his arse, but there's just as much likelihood of the situation going farther south.
- dashripdot

I can see your point. However I believe Columbus would want a proven top 6 center back rather than a first round pick and some lesser players.

Would a team like Calgary offer Monahan? What about some younger players, Alex Turcotte or Dylan Cozens?
Heywood Jablome
Joined: 06.26.2020

Jan 22 @ 7:36 PM ET
Plus I think Tampa learned there lesson with whiny frenchmen. My only real issue I had with yzerman Was picking drouin over Jones. we really needed a solid d man at that time.
- Richard N Cider

Funny, HenryHockey just used the same phrase "WF" on Ek's blog. Coincidence or just both innorant.
3rd GM's the charm
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Look, it's a situation where thats a great question, OH
Joined: 07.01.2020

Jan 22 @ 7:49 PM ET
I can see your point. However I believe Columbus would want a proven top 6 center back rather than a first round pick and some lesser players.

Would a team like Calgary offer Monahan? What about some younger players, Alex Turcotte or Dylan Cozens?

- stay@home-guy

Not getting Cozens.
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 23 @ 9:12 AM ET
I can see your point. However I believe Columbus would want a proven top 6 center back rather than a first round pick and some lesser players.

Would a team like Calgary offer Monahan? What about some younger players, Alex Turcotte or Dylan Cozens?

- stay@home-guy


I think Jarmo absolutely would consider younger players (NHL ready prospects) like Turcotte, Cozens, Perrault, Zegras + high picks.
It's pretty obvious this roster doesn't have the horses ready to make a playoff run, so he has to make solid additions and jettison as much dead weight as he can.

I like Monahan - but he hits UFA in 2 years, so we'd be in the same bucket we were with Panarin 3 years ago !!
birdie03
Columbus Blue Jackets
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jan 23 @ 9:15 AM ET
Are you out of your mind or just trolling?
PLD's career numbers have be good but not great. GP 238, G66, ASST 93, PTS 159


It's the Art of the Deal boys !! If you don't ask high you don't get what you want !! If negotiations start in the middlel they only go down.
way i c it
Ottawa Senators
Location: ottawa, ON
Joined: 11.09.2020

Jan 23 @ 10:26 AM ET
Don't forget the Sens. It's a mess in Ottawa with the coaching, the evaluation and development of prospects. They have better players in the AHL than the NHL and I'm sure that some of them asked for trades. They just lost a good NHL ready prospect to wavers. Some have been held back for 2 years. They have some Fs in the AHL that'll score 1.3 - 1.4 points per game. That's 100 points in a 76 game season. They have players on the scratch list like White and Wolanin. Then Logan Brown, Alex Formenton, Vitali Abramov, Eric Brannstrom are on the AHL roster. You get the Sens to switch 2021 #1 pick and probably get a boatload of very good players because it's a regular gong show in Ottawa.
jkumpire
Location:
Joined: 03.16.2009

Jan 23 @ 6:06 PM ET
Well, there are a lot of things to say about the trade, but one thing is quite clear: the two best games by far the team has played are the last two, after PLD was benched, then traded.

I hope PLD plays well with the Jets and gets what he wants. I fear that he won't, but that's in the future.
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