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TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 22 @ 12:32 PM ET
it makes the most sense to send him home until they can accommodate the request. i cannot imagine it's a comfortable situation that's conducive to team-building right now. and why expose the asset to injury risk, even in practice?
- DoubleDown


He will likely get moved soon and it will be an underwhelming return. That’s just the way these situations usually turn out.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jan 22 @ 12:33 PM ET
it makes the most sense to send him home until they can accommodate the request. i cannot imagine it's a comfortable situation that's conducive to team-building right now. and why expose the asset to injury risk, even in practice?
- DoubleDown

Yzerman did it with Drouin. He eventually traded him for Sergachev. It worked out well for Tampa.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

Jan 22 @ 12:35 PM ET
If he were to go to Philly - they should ask for Ghost (money and reclamation project with MAJOR UPSIDE) plus a premium prospect AND a first round pick.

And the Flyers should DO IT.

Torts wears players out and this relationship is broken.

AV isn't going to take poop from him but he'd be on a LOADED team in Philly.

- flyersfaninLA


i don't think anyone is acquiring him without giving up a significant roster piece in the same age range as PLD.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:36 PM ET
I'm a Devils fan, and I don't think Zacha, Butcher, and draft picks are good enough at all. If I was CBJ, the asking price starts with Hischier. Why would CBJ trade their best forward for essentially a bag of pucks? I'm not saying Zacha and Butcher are terrible, but Zacha isn't Top-6 talent and Butcher isn't Top-4 D.

If I were CBJ, I would circle back to the Rangers and see if they can get Kakko. I'd also see if the Kings would be willing to move Byfield or Turcotte for PLD.

- CardiffGiant

I agree with your thinking. Hischier would be the piece here, and it won't even be enough. However I can't see this happening now that he's is hurt.

If you were Kekalainen, would you rather want a young prospect like Cozens or Turcotte or a proven first line center like Zibanejad?
trueblue1
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jan 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
NYR fan here

That was a disgraceful shift. He obviously wants out now. They are going to be forced to trade him.

Honestly, after watching that, I don't know if I'd want him. I did want them to trade for him. Just not so sure anymore. That was a major turn off.

Strome & Kravstov at best.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
PLD will not perform for NJ. He wants to go to Montreal, but Montreal cannot afford to wait for 2-3 wks to get him in the line-up. But if they could get away from giving up Kotkaniemi or Suzuki this might work:
Danault + Armia + Poehling + a 2nd for PLD

- HenryHockey


Lol, that proposal is worse than the one Ek suggested

Pretty sure Jarmo isn’t moving PLD for three pieces of garbage and a 2nd

wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Jan 22 @ 12:38 PM ET
PLD is going to Montreal or NYR
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:41 PM ET
For those keeping track, Ek predicted Columbus would win their division this year. Because, despite Dubois being a distraction, they added Domi, Koivu, and Grigorenko.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:42 PM ET
Lol, that proposal is worse than the one Ek suggested

Pretty sure Jarmo isn’t moving PLD for three pieces of garbage and a 2nd

- AxlRose91

Armia as a piece of garbage just recorded four points last night.

However I agree, Jarmo would want an elite center iceman coming back.
ChonDerry
Location: Bedlamton, AB
Joined: 04.06.2016

Jan 22 @ 12:43 PM ET
After seeing a shift like that, you know his future teammates are super excited at the prospect of playing with a guy who gives his all at every public free skate like that.

Oh, that was during a game.
So what's next? he goes to Montreal (using them as the example) and doesn't immediately get his hero's welcome and pulls this all over again? The media there would eat him alive, but it would be hilarious
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Jan 22 @ 12:45 PM ET
I never said he was. You did.
- gergeswillems


I said maybe

I’m sure they could put together a package without Larkin.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:46 PM ET
For those keeping track, Ek predicted Columbus would win their division this year. Because, despite Dubois being a distraction, they added Domi, Koivu, and Grigorenko.
- Kooleus

I actually think Columbus would be a very good team once they get rid of players who doesn't want to be there. Korpisalo looks really sharp. Domi and Foudy look great too. Koivu has not even played yet, will be terrific 3C/4C.
Kooleus
Los Angeles Kings
Location: LA (home of King Alex), CA
Joined: 11.17.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
Lol, that proposal is worse than the one Ek suggested

Pretty sure Jarmo isn’t moving PLD for three pieces of garbage and a 2nd

- AxlRose91


Danault is extremely underrated. Armia is also a decent middle 6 guy. Jarmo would take this deal in an instant under these circumstances. Awful take on your part. Just as bad as Ek thinking Zacha and Butcher having positive value.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:47 PM ET
I said maybe

I’m sure they could put together a package without Larkin.

- Garnie

What would that look like? Raymond?
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:48 PM ET
Heard Dreger say on the Instigators that Adams is inquiring. I would trade Cozens straight up for PLD.
- G - Man
Thats a fair offer.
sjfpp
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 05.14.2011

Jan 22 @ 12:52 PM ET
PLD and prospects/picks for Barkov.
NHL_101
Joined: 07.24.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:53 PM ET
Ha! Wow what a bum.
stay@home-guy
Joined: 02.27.2018

Jan 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
PLD and prospects/picks for Barkov.
- sjfpp

Barkov is not available unless there's more in the Dubois package
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:54 PM ET
I actually think Columbus would be a very good team once they get rid of players who doesn't want to be there. Korpisalo looks really sharp. Domi and Foudy look great too. Koivu has not even played yet, will be terrific 3C/4C.
- stay@home-guy
Agreed but they need to move past this trainwreck fast.
Alexzanki
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 06.03.2008

Jan 22 @ 12:56 PM ET
Danault is extremely underrated. Armia is also a decent middle 6 guy. Jarmo would take this deal in an instant under these circumstances. Awful take on your part. Just as bad as Ek thinking Zacha and Butcher having positive value.
- Kooleus

Danault is plug and it's just more of Texier, Jenner type players, they have plenty of those.....
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 22 @ 12:57 PM ET
Danault is extremely underrated. Armia is also a decent middle 6 guy. Jarmo would take this deal in an instant under these circumstances. Awful take on your part. Just as bad as Ek thinking Zacha and Butcher having positive value.
- Kooleus

If Danault wasn't a UFA at seasons end it would be in the ball park.
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Jan 22 @ 12:59 PM ET
Danault is extremely underrated. Armia is also a decent middle 6 guy. Jarmo would take this deal in an instant under these circumstances. Awful take on your part. Just as bad as Ek thinking Zacha and Butcher having positive value.
- Kooleus


Swing-and-a-miss, my simple-minded friend. Zero chance Jarmo takes a package that includes neither a premium player nor a premium pick

PLD had a bad shift, yet you’re acting like his stock has plummeted. He’s super young, and already a stud in the league

Package from MTL would start with Suzuki and a 1st
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 22 @ 1:02 PM ET
Swing-and-a-miss, my simple-minded friend. Zero chance Jarmo takes a package that includes neither a premium player nor a premium pick

PLD had a bad shift, yet you’re acting like his stock has plummeted. He’s super young, and already a stud in the league

Package from MTL would start with Suzuki and a 1st

- AxlRose91

If that offer was out there PLD would be LONG GONE!

gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

Jan 22 @ 1:03 PM ET
I said maybe

I’m sure they could put together a package without Larkin.

- Garnie

Sure they could offer Mantha as the main piece. Problem is Jarmo will want a young top 6 center who can play now. Detroit doesn't have that. Veleno isn't ready. Dubois is an upgrade on Larkin talent wise. But it only would make Detroit slightly better.

Yzerman isn't going to trade Larkin who he just named Captain for a suck who quits when he doesn't get his own way. I agree with the poster above. It's Rangers or Habs if he is traded. But Jarmo doesn't strike me as a guy who'll knuckle under for a lowball trade.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Jan 22 @ 1:08 PM ET
Swing-and-a-miss, my simple-minded friend. Zero chance Jarmo takes a package that includes neither a premium player nor a premium pick

PLD had a bad shift, yet you’re acting like his stock has plummeted. He’s super young, and already a stud in the league

Package from MTL would start with Suzuki and a 1st

- AxlRose91

Lol
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