To me it means most of the trades will be before the deadline, especially with quarantine rules in effect.
- LAHawk

Lots of time before the TDL: lots can change concerning quarantines, and other Covid protocols - in both directions.

Lots of time before the TDL: lots can change concerning quarantines, and other Covid protocols - in both directions.
- StLBravesFan

Yep, it feels like things are loosening up. If it continues, maybe the quarantine will disappear.

Lots of time before the TDL: lots can change concerning quarantines, and other Covid protocols - in both directions.
- StLBravesFan

Wonder if the players and staff are going to get shots soon.

Yep, it feels like things are loosening up. If it continues, maybe the quarantine will disappear.
- mohel

Vaccine in short supply, behind schedule, new strains more contagious, possibly 30% more deadly. Not seeing this loosening up at all! Remember, TDL is with nearly the entire season finished I think teams will be protecting picks for next year. Calls them how I sees them...

Pretty sure they aren't sitting Kurashev since he's helping drive their best possession line.
- HawkintheD

I wouldn't think so but InvisibleMark keeps showing up

Wonder if the players and staff are going to get shots soon.
- BetweenTheDots

I bet that the league has a policy or outline that they want to follow. But must be careful not to infringe on personal rights.

The league must be concerned with so many players and NHL staff, there is greater opportunity for bad reaction to a vaccination. And does that mean a player cannot/unable to play hockey for ? amount of time. Do you think an entire team gets vaccinated same time as all other teams? How many players agree to the shots? Maybe the league therefore would welcome all players and staff to voluntarily get vaccinated in off season.

Right now this is a lot of information or questions which we are not likey going to receive answers to....at least no answers soon.

Herd mentality and a few months of continual daily reports of covid spikes and deaths may impact the opinions and decisions of everyone. I don't know if some players may get vaccinated during the season. The entire covid issue is sort of shrouded in mystery as to the NHL action on its concern? That much is known. Which is not really very much

I bet that the league has a policy or outline that they want to follow. But must be careful not to infringe on personal rights.

The league must be concerned with so many players and NHL staff, there is greater opportunity for bad reaction to a vaccination. And does that mean a player cannot/unable to play hockey for ? amount of time. Do you think an entire team gets vaccinated same time as all other teams? How many players agree to the shots? Maybe the league therefore would welcome all players and staff to voluntarily get vaccinated in off season.

Right now this is a lot of information or questions which we are not likey going to receive answers to....at least no answers soon.

Herd mentality and a few months of continual daily reports of covid spikes and deaths may impact the opinions and decisions of everyone. I don't know if some players may get vaccinated during the season. The entire covid issue is sort of shrouded in mystery as to the NHL action on its concern? That much is known. Which is not really very much
- jhawk59

That's a lot to think about. I just wonder when it will be available to them. That's all, i do wonder if anyone would opt out other than Tony. Wouldn't that make them a bad team mate if they did? Who knows, but i think because they are providing entertainment at a time when entertainment is needed they should be able to get it sooner than later.

The way i understand it is the bad reaction is with people who have allergy s that are more severe than the normal person. My wife would definitely have to have the shot in the hospital since it seems she has reactions to almost anything that grows or sheds.

Olli Matta not dressed for the Kings because “He is not playing to his capabilities”.

I bet that the league has a policy or outline that they want to follow. But must be careful not to infringe on personal rights.

The league must be concerned with so many players and NHL staff, there is greater opportunity for bad reaction to a vaccination. And does that mean a player cannot/unable to play hockey for ? amount of time. Do you think an entire team gets vaccinated same time as all other teams? How many players agree to the shots? Maybe the league therefore would welcome all players and staff to voluntarily get vaccinated in off season.

Right now this is a lot of information or questions which we are not likey going to receive answers to....at least no answers soon.

Herd mentality and a few months of continual daily reports of covid spikes and deaths may impact the opinions and decisions of everyone. I don't know if some players may get vaccinated during the season. The entire covid issue is sort of shrouded in mystery as to the NHL action on its concern? That much is known. Which is not really very much
- jhawk59

From the CDC website:

2). As of December 23, 2020, a reported 1,893,360 first doses of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine had been administered in the United States, and reports of 4,393 (0.2%) adverse events after receipt of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine had been submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Among these, 175 case reports were identified for further review as possible cases of severe allergic reaction, including anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is a life-threatening allergic reaction that does occur rarely after vaccination, with onset typically within minutes to hours (3). Twenty-one cases were determined to be anaphylaxis (a rate of 11.1 per million doses administered), including 17 in persons with a documented history of allergies or allergic reactions, seven of whom had a history of anaphylaxis. The median interval from vaccine receipt to symptom onset was 13 minutes (range = 2–150 minutes).

Website: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/...olumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

So something over 2 out of 1,000 vaccinations had an allergic reaction - only 175 out of 1,893,000 had a reaction that required following up - only 21 (a rate of 11.1 out of 1,000,000) had an anaphylactic reaction, almost all who had a history of anaphylaxis.

The leagues - and all of us - have very little to worry about from the vaccine - certainly much less than from actually getting infected.

Now, some may say “fake news” “mainstream media” - your choice.

And to anyone complaining about this being a political post - this is a direct response to jhawk59’s post. Take it up with someone else.

That's a lot to think about. I just wonder when it will be available to them. That's all, i do wonder if anyone would opt out other than Tony. Wouldn't that make them a bad team mate if they did? Who knows, but i think because they are providing entertainment at a time when entertainment is needed they should be able to get it sooner than later.

The way i understand it is the bad reaction is with people who have allergy s that are more severe than the normal person. My wife would definitely have to have the shot in the hospital since it seems she has reactions to almost anything that grows or sheds.
- BetweenTheDots

Well it is a new ballgame, new thoughts and follow through since Biden is at the helm. That much is positive since Trump and Republican plan was lacking knowledge and know how to facilitate. This is just a factual statement based upon evidence; it is in no way a political football i am tossing around.

Right now if I know at least a little bit - a tad amount - how public is weighing in on vaccination, many people want to wait and see how well the vaccination goes. How safe is it. Data please. Too early to determine what to do? But many others, too, want to get vaccinated and hopefully avoid contracting the covid.

So said all this, and look at what your situation you painted about your wife. This covid is just not yet and may not be a one answer fits all solution. And right now the fact that other strains are popping up throughout the world is scary because we do not know if new found strains will each be more harsh, more deadly and if vaccination protects against all. It is a sticky wicket of a problem

From the CDC website:

2). As of December 23, 2020, a reported 1,893,360 first doses of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine had been administered in the United States, and reports of 4,393 (0.2%) adverse events after receipt of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine had been submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Among these, 175 case reports were identified for further review as possible cases of severe allergic reaction, including anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is a life-threatening allergic reaction that does occur rarely after vaccination, with onset typically within minutes to hours (3). Twenty-one cases were determined to be anaphylaxis (a rate of 11.1 per million doses administered), including 17 in persons with a documented history of allergies or allergic reactions, seven of whom had a history of anaphylaxis. The median interval from vaccine receipt to symptom onset was 13 minutes (range = 2–150 minutes).

Website: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/...olumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

So something over 2 out of 1,000 vaccinations had an allergic reaction - only 175 out of 1,893,000 had a reaction that required following up - only 21 (a rate of 11.1 out of 1,000,000) had an anaphylactic reaction, almost all who had a history of anaphylaxis.

The leagues - and all of us - have very little to worry about from the vaccine - certainly much less than from actually getting infected.

Now, some may say “fake news” “mainstream media” - your choice.

And to anyone complaining about this being a political post - this is a direct response to jhawk59’s post. Take it up with someone else.
- StLBravesFan

Sometimes I think you go overboard on political commentary, but this time you are ok. We are discussing covid, vaccinations and how the lack of knowledge or trust along with availability affects not only hockey players, but all of us

So I appreciate your input. As I have said in two posts about this topic, the NHL response seems sort of shrouded in mystery. Lots of questions, no answers really expected for a while. During a season the emphasis at least this season is just be safe.

By summer time of this year there well could be many vaccinated. And new strains. So covid is a developing story. It would be logical that some players do choose to get vaccinated. I feel like we will have more data to support vaccinations, more people received the vaccination, and all things considered we will have a clearer picture heading into next season how covid affects our world and the hockey playing world.

Well it is a new ballgame, new thoughts and follow through since Biden is at the helm. That much is positive since Trump and Republican plan was lacking knowledge and know how to facilitate. This is just a factual statement based upon evidence; it is in no way a political football i am tossing around.

Right now if I know at least a little bit - a tad amount - how public is weighing in on vaccination, many people want to wait and see how well the vaccination goes. How safe is it. Data please. Too early to determine what to do? But many others, too, want to get vaccinated and hopefully avoid contracting the covid.

So said all this, and look at what your situation you painted about your wife. This covid is just not yet and may not be a one answer fits all solution. And right now the fact that other strains are popping up throughout the world is scary because we do not know if new found strains will each be more harsh, more deadly and if vaccination protects against all. It is a sticky wicket of a problem
- jhawk59

Well i fit in the 1b schedule for Illinois since my path in life has put me in a position to give back to my community. Once available i plan on getting the vaccine.

Vaccine in short supply, behind schedule, new strains more contagious, possibly 30% more deadly. Not seeing this loosening up at all! Remember, TDL is with nearly the entire season finished I think teams will be protecting picks for next year. Calls them how I sees them...
- rpeters01

Down to Tier 1 in Chicago. Stuff is opening up.

From the CDC website:

2). As of December 23, 2020, a reported 1,893,360 first doses of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine had been administered in the United States, and reports of 4,393 (0.2%) adverse events after receipt of Pfizer BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine had been submitted to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS). Among these, 175 case reports were identified for further review as possible cases of severe allergic reaction, including anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis is a life-threatening allergic reaction that does occur rarely after vaccination, with onset typically within minutes to hours (3). Twenty-one cases were determined to be anaphylaxis (a rate of 11.1 per million doses administered), including 17 in persons with a documented history of allergies or allergic reactions, seven of whom had a history of anaphylaxis. The median interval from vaccine receipt to symptom onset was 13 minutes (range = 2–150 minutes).

Website: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/...olumes/70/wr/mm7002e1.htm

So something over 2 out of 1,000 vaccinations had an allergic reaction - only 175 out of 1,893,000 had a reaction that required following up - only 21 (a rate of 11.1 out of 1,000,000) had an anaphylactic reaction, almost all who had a history of anaphylaxis.

The leagues - and all of us - have very little to worry about from the vaccine - certainly much less than from actually getting infected.

Now, some may say “fake news” “mainstream media” - your choice.

And to anyone complaining about this being a political post - this is a direct response to jhawk59’s post. Take it up with someone else.
- StLBravesFan

As a healthcare professional, I have already got my first shot of the Moderna vaccine. I appreciate you posting this information, even though we are polar opposites politically. I have 5 kids, and wouldn't think twice about giving them this vaccine.

That's a lot to think about. I just wonder when it will be available to them. That's all, i do wonder if anyone would opt out other than Tony. Wouldn't that make them a bad team mate if they did? Who knows, but i think because they are providing entertainment at a time when entertainment is needed they should be able to get it sooner than later.

The way i understand it is the bad reaction is with people who have allergy s that are more severe than the normal person. My wife would definitely have to have the shot in the hospital since it seems she has reactions to almost anything that grows or sheds.
- BetweenTheDots

There is no reason for NHL players to get the vaccine before anyone else (unless they have an underlying condition (asthma, etc). Providing entertainment is not (nor should it be) any kind of determining factor. You treat the most vulnerable first, then move on to the next group.

Tonight the Winnioeg Jets have a rookie dman probably his NHL debut . Drafted #1 round a couple or so years ago. Check out his size - the new Bufuglien?!

Logan Stanley, defense, 6-7", 231

There is no reason for NHL players to get the vaccine before anyone else (unless they have an underlying condition (asthma, etc). Providing entertainment is not (nor should it be) any kind of determining factor. You treat the most vulnerable first, then move on to the next group.
- Chunk

Actually my wife has asthma and says she can't find that anyone with asthma is a priority. Sounds like diabetics are more of a priority or being obese.

Olli Matta not dressed for the Kings because “He is not playing to his capabilities”.
- LAHawk

Paired with Doughty and they haven't look good at all.

jhawk59

The vaccine is safe.

The athletes don't need to get it before the grocery store workers.

and you know what?

If too many poeple start being frightened by this 2 shots, the virus just takes longer to leave, and more die, and get sick.

Getting the shot doesn't stop you from passing the virus or even getting the virus - it simply makes the condition a bit less dangerous.

So continue to not take chances and be careful and don't worry about things, just fight the virus with your common sense until you can get the shots...

jhawk59

The vaccine is safe.

The athletes don't need to get it before the grocery store workers.

and you know what?

If too many poeple start being frightened by this 2 shots, the virus just takes longer to leave, and more die, and get sick.

Getting the shot doesn't stop you from passing the virus or even getting the virus - it simply makes the condition a bit less dangerous.

So continue to not take chances and be careful and don't worry about things, just fight the virus with your common sense until you can get the shots...
- wiz1901

The vaccine doesn’t stop the virus from entering your nose - which does mean you can pass it on.

But at 90%+ effectiveness - it does stop the virus from affecting your body - you don’t get sick - and it stops the replication of it within your body - thus (with herd immunity) it dies out.

At least that’s how I understand it.

There is no reason for NHL players to get the vaccine before anyone else (unless they have an underlying condition (asthma, etc). Providing entertainment is not (nor should it be) any kind of determining factor. You treat the most vulnerable first, then move on to the next group.
- Chunk

And I am in the over-65 group, which becomes eligible on Monday.

IF they can get enough doses to Illinois.

IF I could figure out how to sign up for an appointment.

And I am in the over-65 group, which becomes eligible on Monday.

IF they can get enough doses to Illinois.

IF I could figure out how to sign up for an appointment.
- StLBravesFan

In the county that I live in Florida, they open up the website at 6AM for >65 and all booked by 6:30. That’s what happened yesterday, will have to get up a little earlier next time.

In the county that I live in Florida, they open up the website at 6AM for >65 and all booked by 6:30. That’s what happened yesterday, will have to get up a little earlier next time.
- Angotti

That's fortunate for you, i hear so many older people complain about not being able to sleep anymore.

Chicago, Baltimore, DC, and the state of Michigan have all decided it is safe enough now to reopen indoor dining. All this before widespread distribution of the vaccine. Others are sure to follow, since it is all based on science.

If restaurants can have 25% customers without violating the science, why can't hockey?

The Blue Jackets played an inspired game today after trading the malcontent. I'm glad they sent him to Winnipeg, rather than the big market he wanted.