mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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If not for the Oilers getting 17 lucky bounces, the Leafs could be 6-1, but yeah.. We need to blow it up. Dubas sucks - PatC80
If we were 6-1 I certainly wouldn't be calling for Dubas's head.
But 5-2?
A bridge too far! Burn it down indeed! |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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If trading Dermott brings back a player who can make an impact - whether it's a better RHD or a gritty forward - you make the trade and be damned with the D depth.
We have Lehtonen, Sandin, Liljegren, Rosen, and... Marincin. That's plenty of bottom 6 d-men and I don't think retaining Dermott moves the needle much. - mjones242
I think the second sentence is the reason the first sentence can't happen.
If Dermott is the type of player who doesn't move the needle much, he's not bringing back a player who's going to make an impact. Especially considering the dollar in/out aspect of any transaction. We're probably better off giving him a chance to increase his value, because right now what is he worth? A 3rd? |
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PatC80
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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What Travis Boyd brings is that he's a centre, which gives you some versatility there and his value is that he's already here.
I'm not to argue it too fervently because there's not a lot of difference in here, but Boyd = Gaudette = Blueger. Some are better at some things and some are better at others, but all three are tweeners to some extent. Gaudette is the youngest, I think, so he may have room to develop yet.
If they are looking for something that helps, they're not really getting it by giving up Dermott with the cap space available was the point I was trying to make. Given those constraints, I'd be looking internally. - Monkeypunk
Wonder if it is a case of Keefe/Dubas not yet trusting Boyd?
I don't think you'll get much for Dermott, because of his role and cap hit, but it may be a necessary move.. I think if they could do it by promoting from within, there wouldn't be rumors about the Leafs interest in forward help. |
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mjones242
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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That production is meh for a player of his talent, and salary.
The entire team needs to cowboy-up in the playoffs, and that includes Matthews. - Aetherial
Matthews was excellent and one of the few bright spots against Columbus.
Having said that, the offense - minus AM34 - was smothered by CBJ and the Leafs couldn't figure out how to crack the Torts code.
Coach Keefe needs to figure out how to win those grinding, trapesque playoff style games. Early days yet but I'm thinking the Leafs are embracing some of that mentality this season... |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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Capitals unveiled their new 3rd jerseys.
I still can't decide whether I like them or hate them. They sure are different.
It's like the GAP designed them or something. |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Capitals unveiled their new 3rd jerseys.
I still can't decide whether I like them or hate them. They sure are different.
It's like the GAP designed them or something. - Atomic Wedgie
Very Bush 2 era Washington |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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Capitals unveiled their new 3rd jerseys.
I still can't decide whether I like them or hate them. They sure are different.
It's like the GAP designed them or something. - Atomic Wedgie
Can they just bring back the 80s jersey and be done with it?
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mjones242
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Pretentious Beer Snob, ON Joined: 06.22.2015
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I think the second sentence is the reason the first sentence can't happen.
If Dermott is the type of player who doesn't move the needle much, he's not bringing back a player who's going to make an impact. Especially considering the dollar in/out aspect of any transaction. We're probably better off giving him a chance to increase his value, because right now what is he worth? A 3rd? - Monkeypunk
Dermott+ for a needle-mover shouldn't be outside the realm of possibility. The return could simply be a 4th line energy player who elevates that line.
He's not going to increase his value playing 11+ mins a night so I'm thinking you move him sooner rather than later. |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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I think the second sentence is the reason the first sentence can't happen.
If Dermott is the type of player who doesn't move the needle much, he's not bringing back a player who's going to make an impact. Especially considering the dollar in/out aspect of any transaction. We're probably better off giving him a chance to increase his value, because right now what is he worth? A 3rd? - Monkeypunk
Bang on. |
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Wood for Dermott? - PatC80
you like Dermott much eh!
I know what you meant.
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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If we were 6-1 I certainly wouldn't be calling for Dubas's head.
But 5-2?
A bridge too far! Burn it down indeed! - mjones242
Definitely.. We nEdD MoAr jAGr |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Bang on. - Scabeh
Hold on, didnt the Habs trade Galchenyuk for Domi? There are always teams who think they can make more out of a player.
Dermott isnt crap or something, he just isnt what the Leafs need right now. A young team might see him as a piece who can grow his game with them. |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Bang on. - Scabeh
But that’s the whole point of the trade. Move him for somebody much, much better. This isn’t complicated. |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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you like Dermott much eh!
I know what you meant. - dmnted
Yes, not for Dermott... That 'wood' is reserved for William Nylander |
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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON Joined: 08.11.2011
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Bang on. - Scabeh
Galchenyuk for Domi for Anderson..
Yup, as you said "bang on" |
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Hold on, didnt the Habs trade Galchenyuk for Domi? There are always teams who think they can make more out of a player.
Dermott isnt crap or something, he just isnt what the Leafs need right now. A young team might see him as a piece who can grow his game with them. - Archaic
Habs traded Galchenyuk at the best possible time before he completed his self-destruction.
Just like they traded Domi afterwards at the right time.
For the mistakes Bergevin might have done over the years, guy usually wins his trades.
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Galchenyuk for Domi for Anderson..
Yup, as you said "bang on" - PatC80
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You guys have no idea whatsoever what it's like to be GM of an NHL franchise.
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Tradez are the best - Canada Cup
yup, plumbers make good coin.
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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You guys have no idea whatsoever what it's like to be GM of an NHL franchise. - MaximusAurelius
I suppose only you and Federov truly know.
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dmnted
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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Dominion Voting Systems has filed a $1.3 billion lawsuit against former President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani, accusing him of peddling "demonstrably false” allegations that resulted in harassment and death threats for employees.
So Rudy is going to have to dig pretty deep into his pants to find that kind of coin - Canada Cup
can't wait for the laws suit against Trump |
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Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Waterloo, ON Joined: 01.12.2011
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Habs traded Galchenyuk at the best possible time before he completed his self-destruction.
Just like they traded Domi afterwards at the right time.
For the mistakes Bergevin might have done over the years, guy usually wins his trades.
- Scabeh
I have a feeling that Domi will putter along and have a couple bad seasons and end up with the Leafs |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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You guys have no idea whatsoever what it's like to be GM of an NHL franchise. - MaximusAurelius
Um, my XBOX says different. |
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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You guys have no idea whatsoever what it's like to be GM of an NHL franchise. - MaximusAurelius
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Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today? Joined: 06.30.2006
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Dominion Voting Systems has filed a $1.3 billion lawsuit against former President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani, accusing him of peddling "demonstrably false” allegations that resulted in harassment and death threats for employees.
So Rudy is going to have to dig pretty deep into his pants to find that kind of coin - Canada Cup
It will be interesting to see how the suits progress.
You would have to think the baseless allegations make them liable, but will they be able to show damages, or is that even required?
I just think it is bizarre that these lawyers and politicians can just say stuff that is potentially damaging and certainly misleading to voters. I can't believe that freedom of speech covers this. |
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