dmnted
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Location: Space for Rent Joined: 08.30.2006
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We are all Craig Button. Craig Button is all around us. - Zezel
All hail Craig Button.
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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But is he a number one centre? Bozak was a number.... nope, I can’t do it. - Canada Cup
Neither are number ones.
Ideally, Danault is a ok 2nd line centre or an amazing third line centre.
But he's also great at faceoffs, on the PK and has amazing chemistry but Gallagher and Tatar which is showed by their amazing results at 5 on 5.
I love him, but if he wants anything more than the 5M per season already offered, he'll leave at the end of the year. |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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To be fair, Bergeron wasn't elite 2-way Bergeron until he hit a stride around 24-25.
Not sure if PLD has the potential to reach that level, but yes, Bergeron-Lite I think is well within reach.
Perhaps Ryan O'Reilly would have been a more apt comparison? - mjones242
I think PLD has very good potential - O'Reilly - maybe we'll see. Laine is a really good player. I like the return Columbus got in this situation. They were forced to make a move (or to fire Tortellini) and suffer the consequences. Laine is an elite goal scorer, he has great size and skill, and has a chance to be as good maybe better than OV. CBJ also received another first rounder, a center that is now playing for his home town. Big factor on rating this deal will be the ability to retain these players. I think both teams will have difficulty with this. Roslovic would probably re-sign and might be a future CBJ captain and 2nd or 3rd line center. Add also that he Jets retained salary and the deal looks pretty good for CBJ. |
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PLD no way is in the Bergeron O'Reilly category.
More of a Matt Stajan // Ryan Kesler type of guy. |
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RogerRoeper
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 03.27.2007
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The one thing that's great for Winnipeg here is PLD is as good 5 on 5 as Laine is. Laine is
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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 09.24.2013
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PLD no way is in the Bergeron O'Reilly category.
More of a Matt Stajan // Ryan Kesler type of guy. - MaximusAurelius
matt stajan |
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I think PLD has very good potential - O'Reilly - maybe we'll see. Laine is a really good player. I like the return Columbus got in this situation. They were forced to make a move (or to fire Tortellini) and suffer the consequences. Laine is an elite goal scorer, he has great size and skill, and has a chance to be as good maybe better than OV. CBJ also received another first rounder, a center that is now playing for his home town. Big factor on rating this deal will be the ability to retain these players. I think both teams will have difficulty with this. Roslovic would probably re-sign and might be a future CBJ captain and 2nd or 3rd line center. Add also that he Jets retained salary and the deal looks pretty good for CBJ. - winsix
wut? |
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PLD no way is in the Bergeron O'Reilly category.
More of a Matt Stajan // Ryan Kesler type of guy. - MaximusAurelius
wut? |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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The one thing that's great for Winnipeg here is PLD is as good 5 on 5 as Laine is. Laine is - RogerRoeper
He’s better 5 on 5. Winnipeg gains there but loses big time on their PP |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: This world is just a veil and the face you wear is not your own., ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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wut? - Steven_Seagull
Maybe we should have considered OV |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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wut? - Steven_Seagull
Small chance
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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I got me a bad case of the Stajan |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Matt Stajan? - Dozzer
I think the lesson we have learned today is to stop using players as comparables
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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I think the lesson we have learned today is to stop using players as comparables - Santo_44
And that certain teams suck rhino Richards
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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I think the lesson we have learned today is to stop using players as comparables - Santo_44
I think it’s safe to say that PLD is a better player than Stajan was |
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I think it’s safe to say that PLD is a better player than Stajan was - Dozzer
Considering he was a 3/4 C I would agree. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Considering he was a 3/4 C I would agree. - Santo_44
Stajan: 0.413PPG over his career
PLD: 0.665PPG over his career and he’s still only 22
So yeah, safe to say PLD is a better player |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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I think it’s safe to say that PLD is a better player than Stajan was - Dozzer
PLD is signed one year beyond this season. Laine is an RFA after this season. What are the chances of either of these players signing long term with these teams? Might be the biggest factor in rating this deal.
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Considering he was a 3/4 C I would agree. - Santo_44
2/3 C.
any case - maybe the Kesler comparison is better.
Columbus fleeced the Jets here - they got a top NHL scorer for a 2C with character issues.
Laine will do fine now he finally can be the star on a team - I expect he'll end up with Texier and Foudy on the topline eventually (next season) -- should be a fun line to watch.
I'm rooting for Laine, Torts and CBJ here - really hope things will work out well for them. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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PLD is signed one year beyond this season. Laine is an RFA after this season. What are the chances of either of these players signing long term with these teams? Might be the biggest factor in rating this deal. - winsix
For PLD it will depend on if he likes the direction of the team and for Laine it’s going to depend a lot on his relationship with Torts imo |
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Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Whenever, wherever, ON Joined: 06.27.2013
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PLD is signed one year beyond this season. Laine is an RFA after this season. What are the chances of either of these players signing long term with these teams? Might be the biggest factor in rating this deal. - winsix
Jarmo Kekalainen would probably be appealing as a manager for Laine, and obviously vice versa.
Dubois' father works in the Jets organization as an Assistant Coach of the Manitoba Moose.
I would think in both cases there's a good chance of them trying to make it happen on all sides. |
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rSole
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I usually disagree with Dozzer, ON Joined: 12.16.2013
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wut? - Steven_Seagull
Ya, that was just dumb. |
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Dozzer
Referee Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high Joined: 09.15.2010
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Jarmo Kekalainen would probably be appealing as a manager for Laine, and obviously vice versa.
Dubois' father works in the Jets organization as an Assistant Coach of the Manitoba Moose.
I would think in both cases there's a good chance of them trying to make it happen on all sides. - Monkeypunk
So do you think this is more about Maurice’s and Torts’ job security then?
An “okay we’ve changed up your stars now it’s on you to make it work” kind of message from their respective GMs? |
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winsix
Season Ticket Holder Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Henry Hudson's Fairchild 24 South Porcupine Joined: 04.03.2016
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Jarmo Kekalainen would probably be appealing as a manager for Laine, and obviously vice versa.
Dubois' father works in the Jets organization as an Assistant Coach of the Manitoba Moose.
I would think in both cases there's a good chance of them trying to make it happen on all sides. - Monkeypunk
That's interesting about Dubois' father. Still think the Habs will be calling as soon as they can . As for Laine, Kekalainen might be nice at the moment, but Laine has a giant ego - he will want to get paid, history is not on CBJ's side to do this.
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