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Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
well thats it then, jersey with the six spot tonight.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Smelling 7 now.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 4:56 PM ET
Yandle has a NMC he’d have to waive to come here, but that means we’d be forced to protect him in the draft. This also means we’d be protecting 4 defensemen - Provy, Sanheim, Myers, and Yandle.

Now we look at the forwards, and G and Hayes are automatic. So are Coots and TK, let’s be honest.

If you get Yandle, you’d have to also be okay with Seattle having free range to take anyone else on the team other than Hart. I know many of us are down on our FWDs at the moment, but let’s look at it objectively. Like pretend things are alright because a healthy Coots is back.

You ok with this?

I mean, maybe you are, I dunno. Chances are Seattle isn’t taking who you hope they’ll take.

And regardless if you or anyone else around here is comfortable with it, I’ll all but guarantee that the Flyers are NOT.

For that reason, I’m not buying this as legit at all. smells like bad fish. Or good cheese.

- Hesh_


Technically, unless it has been changed, a players movement clause does not follow the player when traded. However, Yandle could make that part of the agreement to waive and accept the trade. Then as you point out, the Flyers would be forced to protect him. The biggest issue is why trade for a player and give up a substantial asset if he could only be here this year? Is he that much of an upgrade? I'm quite confident that the Flyers are going to give Gostisbehere a chance to see what he can do before trying to move him again.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
Technically, unless it has been changed, a players movement clause does not follow the player when traded. However, Yandle could make that part of the agreement to waive and accept the trade. Then as you point out, the Flyers would be forced to protect him. The biggest issue is why trade for a player and give up a substantial asset if he could only be here this year? Is he that much of an upgrade? I'm quite confident that the Flyers are going to give Gostisbehere a chance to see what he can do before trying to move him again.
- MJL


If ghost is 75% of the player he was his first 2 years yandle has no place on this team. And its not close. Yandle at 25 maybe but not yandle at 34.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
I read up more on the 2-1-2 forecheck and found this note very interesting; I bolded the lines that most jumped out at me regarding what I think points to the heart of the problems the Flyers have been having this season.
"The 2-1-2 system is great to run when the opposing team has defensemen who are confident in skating the puck up the ice. Applying this type of pressure will take away their time and space to handle the puck. It also works well when opposing teams have slow defenders. Slow defensemen can be exploited by applying aggressive pressure. It is critical to have the first two players keep their feet moving through the entire process. When forecheckers hesitate using a 2-1-2, a good defense pair on the opposing team will use the extra second or two to find an outlet pass – usually D-to-D. Thus you must skate hard all the way through the forecheck."

- jd250


Sounds familiar to what someone else has been saying. Wonder who that is. Could've just accepted what I've been telling you.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jan 26 @ 4:59 PM ET
Smelling 7 now.
- Tfaehner



vancouver put up 7 on the ghost of matt murray last night and the often maligned Brandon Sutter had a hat trick.. so, why not?


Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 26 @ 5:03 PM ET
vancouver put up 7 on the ghost of matt murray last night and the often maligned Brandon Sutter had a hat trick.. so, why not?
- Doc_Sarcasm


Matt Murray was never very good outside of maybe a 25 game stretch. His team played very well in front of him on their cup runs and their system was very collapsed defensively and allowed nothing inside on him. You saw it at the world cup in 16 too he was awful. His poor play cost north America a chance at the finals.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jan 26 @ 5:19 PM ET
Matt Murray was never very good outside of maybe a 25 game stretch. His team played very well in front of him on their cup runs and their system was very collapsed defensively and allowed nothing inside on him. You saw it at the world cup in 16 too he was awful. His poor play cost north America a chance at the finals.
- Tfaehner

can confirm
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Jan 26 @ 5:39 PM ET
Got it so devils win 6-1
- Tfaehner

Ugh, hope they do not bring Hackstole back
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Jan 26 @ 5:45 PM ET
Sounds familiar to what someone else has been saying. Wonder who that is. Could've just accepted what I've been telling you.
- MJL


Sheesh, careful not to strain your neck there Darth.





Blowing yourself, that is.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Jan 26 @ 6:27 PM ET
Nice costume Taryn! 🥰
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:03 PM ET
Nice costume Taryn! 🥰
- Landsbergfan


Ugh. Sad I’m missing it. I’ve got the devils feed. Got that meat head daneyko. His voice sounds like he just ate the contents of an ash tray.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jan 26 @ 7:10 PM ET
Ugh. Sad I’m missing it. I’ve got the devils feed. Got that meat head daneyko. His voice sounds like he just ate the contents of an ash tray.
- Hextall271


Because he did
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jan 26 @ 7:10 PM ET
Oh no! G in the box
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Jan 26 @ 7:12 PM ET
Einhorn is Finkel, Finkel is Einhorn. I have absolutely no faith in Shayne Gostisbehere. Him and Erik Gustafson might as well be blond brothers. I would be blown away, if ghost on the top pair lasted all season.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
Ghost burned
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:14 PM ET
Well Moose came to play.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:15 PM ET
Ghost burned
- Dkos


Not a gold start. No shock here. Groundhog Day. No push
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
Not a gold start. No shock here.
- Hextall271


Guess he was trying to be aggressive offensively. Sometimes you get burned.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
Well Moose came to play.
- Pelle31Forever


He’s gonna need to stand on his head
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 26 @ 7:16 PM ET
Why are they not shooting?


Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jan 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
NJ got Hughes. Fak me! That little bstrd is good.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jan 26 @ 7:17 PM ET
Guess he was trying to be aggressive offensively. Sometimes you get burned.
- Dkos


Man. We’re on the road and have played poorly defensively. We don’t need that. F me.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Jan 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
Another "big shot - wide!"
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
I really hate this neutral zone tip in play, we have not received a single puck
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Jan 26 @ 7:19 PM ET
going for double-digit shots tonight
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