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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jan 27 @ 10:43 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: The injury blues may have the Penguins looking towards St. Louis The injury blues may have the Penguins looking towards St. Louis
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jan 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
foist.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:02 PM ET
Any one else reporting Pens interest in Dunn besides the head case who runs this site?
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 27 @ 12:02 PM ET
You know, when someone mentioned shipping Matheson to them, I knew that was a no-go because STL has cap issues (nevermind that Matheson sucks). The first player I thought of was Ceci (nevermind that he sucks, too). Maybe a 2nd + Ceci? I know that sounds like crap (and it is), but hey, worth a shot. I'm sure another team can outbid us. Probably works out like Kap - they won't take a 2nd, so do we give them our 1st (2022)? Frankly, I do. But they have to take Ceci!
Newgod77
Boston Bruins
Location: IL
Joined: 05.10.2015

Jan 27 @ 12:04 PM ET
Penguins definitely need more 3rd pair D who struggle in their own zone
kfinl170
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.05.2010

Jan 27 @ 12:14 PM ET
Pens signed Yannick Weber
Tojo.
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Aliquippa, PA
Joined: 11.11.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:18 PM ET
Why did we add a bottom pairing (if that) RHD? Only makes sense if they trade a RHD for help elsewhere, but I'm not counting on it making sense.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Jan 27 @ 12:18 PM ET
Pens signed Yannick Weber
- kfinl170

YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
meh... unless the cost is extraordinarily cheap, I'd rather just ride out the injury bug. I think their few precious assets should go towards another scoring winger to be honest.

I could see Dunn making sense if it ended up as a net positive long term. But in reality Dunn will be just another guy like Joseph and Riikola who ride the pine in favor of lesser "veteran" D men.


Left Dmen ---> Dumo / Pettersson / Joseph / Matheson / Riikola. If Dunn was a locked-on top 4 d-man, it could open the door to trade Dumo or Pettersson for forward upgrades or cap relief...but he's not. Plus Matheson is untradeable. Dunn is a short term fix that causes a long term problem.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 27 @ 12:22 PM ET
Pens signed Yannick Weber
- kfinl170



Beggars can't be choosers.... any idea what the terms were?
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:23 PM ET
Any one else reporting Pens interest in Dunn besides the head case who runs this site?
- Murphy_Dump


I haven’t heard anything besides Ek...
from Jfresh Twitter on Vince Dunn, “Dunn's underlying numbers say top-four or even top-pairing defenceman.“ I think for being 24, RFA on a cheap contract the blues asking for a 1st is definitely in the right ballpark.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:29 PM ET
Why in the F out of all things did they sign a sh!tty right handed dman today? Does he play the left side?
pens4life-66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: BC
Joined: 10.01.2013

Jan 27 @ 12:30 PM ET
Beggars can't be choosers.... any idea what the terms were?
- Beatnic57


1 year 750k, has to pass through waivers first which he will
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:31 PM ET
Might mean Marino is out too... I said last blog I wouldn't be surprised if he misses games as well..
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 27 @ 12:34 PM ET
Why in the F out of all things did they sign a sh!tty right handed dman today? Does he play the left side?
- MattStrat

I don't know but Weber really sucks. Like, he makes Ceci look good.
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:38 PM ET
I'm open to this last few trades we have done w Pens have worked out well.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 27 @ 12:44 PM ET
I'm open to this last few trades we have done w Pens have worked out well.
- Gerk

Does Dunn suck as bad at defense as everyone says he does?
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
Ask Vince Dunn if he'd take a career like the "ineffective defender" Ron Hainsey's. He'd say yes in a millisecond.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:52 PM ET
foist.
- j.boyd919


Is that like a moist fist?
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Jan 27 @ 12:53 PM ET
Ask Vince Dunn if he'd take a career like the "ineffective defender" Ron Hainsey's.... he'd say yes in a millisecond.
- bmeltzer



Indeed.
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Jan 27 @ 12:55 PM ET
Does Dunn suck as bad at defense as everyone says he does?
- Hockey66


Would say fair comparison is Shattenkirk.

He does tend to get the easiest assignments and put on ozone face offs. Problem is now he is 4th in line for PP duty after Krug, Parayko and Faulk and doesn't play PK.

With Faulk playing really well and Blues liking the depth behind Dunn I can see them trading him and signing another Bortuzzo type which is what we are missing now, with the injury.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jan 27 @ 12:59 PM ET
I'm open to this last few trades we have done w Pens have worked out well.
- Gerk


Yeah. Maybe you guys can trade back for Reaves so we can send you Blueger and a 1st and get him again.
Beatnic57
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 10.08.2019

Jan 27 @ 1:05 PM ET
Matheson is on the ice with a no contact jersey...
Gerk
St Louis Blues
Location: say it aint so TARASENKO, YT
Joined: 01.07.2008

Jan 27 @ 1:07 PM ET
Yeah. Maybe you guys can trade back for Reaves so we can send you Blueger and a 1st and get him again.
- Rinosaur


I think the last couple trades we did we still have every player on the roster and Pens have zero.

That Reaves trade saved us since we had to use a first to dump the Lehtera contract.

After the picks were made i think it ended up being Reaves and some finnish goalie for Sunquist and Thomas.
Hockey66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.05.2019

Jan 27 @ 1:08 PM ET
Would say fair comparison is Shattenkirk.

He does tend to get the easiest assignments and put on ozone face offs. Problem is now he is 4th in line for PP duty after Krug, Parayko and Faulk and doesn't play PK.

With Faulk playing really well and Blues liking the depth behind Dunn I can see them trading him and signing another Bortuzzo type which is what we are missing now, with the injury.

- Gerk

Ok, well, if his offense is or is projected to be as prolific as Shatts, sign me up. Not sure who we ship out, though, if we plan on keeping him beyond this year. If not, that's an expensive rental.

Then again, this feels like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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