See, this is what I mean, to you it's only four spots difference, to others however, it's a huge 14% difference between those spots. Which is a lot. Everyone has a different perception.
- Pacificgem

Most of us predicted we'd take a step back this year. I won't be waving pom poms when we beat one of the worst teams in the NHL like OTT.

See, this is what I mean, to you it's only four spots difference, to others however, it's a huge 14% difference between those spots. Which is a lot. Everyone has a different perception.
- Pacificgem

In a 56 game schedule one win could mean four spots.

Most of us predicted we'd take a step back this year. I won't be waving pom poms when we beat one of the worst teams in the NHL like OTT.
- VanHockeyGuy

You did when Montreal beat us in the slump

This
- RealityChecker

Unfortunately my views are a product of my life experience in hockey, I played some good hockey, I was always taught from a young age in Bantam AAA, to Midget AAA to Junior A to College to Major Junior and then to minor pro to break down the game, to dissect it to understand how to play it better.

That followed me past the game and it's hard to just sit and enjoy it as oppose to breaking it down and understanding why they're not playing better. I feel shame!

You did when Montreal beat us in the slump

- VANTEL

My dad was a Habs fan.

In a 56 game schedule one win could mean four spots.
- VANTEL

I think my point flew right over your head?

Unfortunately my views are a product of my life experience in hockey, I played some good hockey, I was always taught from a young age in Bantam AAA, to Midget AAA to Junior A to College to Major Junior and then to minor pro to break down the game, to dissect it to understand how to play it better.

That followed me past the game and it's hard to just sit and enjoy it as oppose to breaking it down and understanding why they're not playing better. I feel shame!
- Pacificgem

So in you're opinion name the first 3 things which need to be fixed? Try not to make it a blog.

Actually, you build from the net out.

Give that some thought and apply that theory to this team.
- VanHockeyGuy

You clearly understand the game.

I think my point flew right over your head?
- Pacificgem

14% WTF cares


One more win.

So in you're opinion name the first 3 things which need to be fixed? Try not to make it a blog.
- VanHockeyGuy

In simple terms...

A) coaching
B) defence is a hot mess
C) lack of depth

14% WTF cares


One more win.
- VANTEL

Again...I was pointing out people view the exact same thing much differently

I believe there's a number of reasons you may or may not agree with but from an organizational standpoint:
1. JB rarely makes trades - (especially not blockbusters) 2. They're not smart enough to see his value as expendable/tradable. 3. They don't have any other wingers/snipers capable of scoring like him. 4. They absolutely love him 5. I think they'll find a way to resign/cap-wise.
- Brooks_Light

I agree with all your points but wingers are just pretty simple to replace. How much better is Boeser than Toffoli? Could have had him for free. And at a lower salary. I’d trade Boeser for sure

Unfortunately my views are a product of my life experience in hockey, I played some good hockey, I was always taught from a young age in Bantam AAA, to Midget AAA to Junior A to College to Major Junior and then to minor pro to break down the game, to dissect it to understand how to play it better.

That followed me past the game and it's hard to just sit and enjoy it as oppose to breaking it down and understanding why they're not playing better. I feel shame!
- Pacificgem

Stick to fishing and golf.

I think the team is just warming up - has been a tough stretch of games and that continues for Feb. But in watching Miller's interview last night, you can see he will not accept failure...will push everyone to play the way they need to play to win. Young guys, bottom six old guys need to sink or swim.

I agree with all your points but wingers are just pretty simple to replace. How much better is Boeser than Toffoli? Could have had him for free. And at a lower salary. I’d trade Boeser for sure
- CanuckDon

I would keep my eye on him for sure and agree with all of Brook's points . To get value for him you would need to have term still left. I realize it was a short season last year
and he only played 57 games but he had only 16 goals.

I am guessing he would have finished with 24 or so . He did have a good number of assists so you have to decide where do you get the finisher from.

I agree with all your points but wingers are just pretty simple to replace. How much better is Boeser than Toffoli? Could have had him for free. And at a lower salary. I’d trade Boeser for sure
- CanuckDon

Thats the thing - Boeser isn't that replaceable - from his draft class (which is a fairly decent sample size at this point) only McD and Connor have a higher goals per game % - Brock is tied with Eichel & Aho - AND AHEAD of guys like Rantanen, Konecny, Marner & Barzal - (I know some of these guys have different styles/games) but my point is just look at the company he's in.

He had 29 goals in his rookie year and has dealt with the back, wrist and rib injuries since - This is the first time since then he's been healthy. Toffoli has ecplised Brocks best once - if you can't see the upside/ceiling in Boeser/Toffoli comparison there's no point in going further in this chat.

Four positions difference . Not a big difference.
- VANTEL

True but I think we have some rounding out to do before we reach top 10 status.

Thats the thing - Boeser isn't that replaceable - from his draft class (which is a fairly decent sample size at this point) only McD and Connor have a higher goals per game % - Brock is tied with Eichel & Aho - AND AHEAD of guys like Rantanen, Konecny, Marner & Barzal - (I know some of these guys have different styles/games) but my point is just look at the company he's in.

He had 29 goals in his rookie year and has dealt with the back, wrist and rib injuries since - This is the first time since then he's been healthy. Toffoli has ecplised Brocks best once - if you can't see the upside/ceiling in Boeser/Toffoli comparison there's no point in going further in this chat.
- Brooks_Light

well said.

In simple terms...

A) coaching
B) defence is a hot mess
C) lack of depth
- Pacificgem

Defence is going to need time to figure out how they play together. With so many guys coming in and out of the line up, it's going to take time.

Canucks depth is pretty strong compared to most teams around the league. Pitt is looking for defence, Toronto is looking for forwards. Teams claiming guys off waivers.

I'd like to see them try Gaudette on the wing. Less D responsibility.

Was reading on the Province about Gaudette, basically saying if they're sitting him, and don't see him as a long term option at center, he's a good trade piece. The Canucks are weak down the center, but could always get a 3C in free agency.
- NewYorkNuck

JB will resign Sutter 3m x4y MNTC, there's your 3LC.

well said.
- LordHumungous

I like Boeser at 6 mil where he is now but truthfully don't know how I feel about him at 8 mil.

Because he is clearly top line talent. Our bottom 6 looks good once they get rid of Beagle, Roussel, Sutter, Gaudette and Virtanen.
- Marwood

So... our bottom 6 looks good, once we've gotten rid of our bottom 5?

I would keep my eye on him for sure and agree with all of Brook's points . To get value for him you would need to have term still left. I realize it was a short season last year
and he only played 57 games but he had only 16 goals.

I am guessing he would have finished with 24 or so . He did have a good number of assists so you have to decide where do you get the finisher from.
- VANTEL

Thats also a good point - the idea that you and Don are making is perfectly valid - Use Boesers scoring value for better D. But is EP, Miller, Horvat, HOG & Pod enough to replace what we lose in Brock? We really don't have any other guys coming in that are capable of scoring like Brock. Then I guess it comes down to HOW you wanna win games- 1-0 or 5-4

JB will resign Sutter 2.5m x2y MNTC, there's your 4LC.
- Pres.cup

Thats also a good point - the idea that you and Don are making is perfectly valid - Use Boesers scoring value for better D. But is EP, Miller, Horvat, HOG & Pod enough to replace what we lose in Brock? We really don't have any other guys coming in that are capable of scoring like Brock. Then I guess it comes down to HOW you wanna win games- 1-0 or 5-4
- Brooks_Light

Just make sure you come in here and rejoice when we beat that crap team again tonight.