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mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:45 AM ET
Just looking at faceoff stats, couple of guys should be looked into

Glendening from wings, winning 69% of draws
Henrique (big contract tho) winning 56%
Bonino 57%
Dvorak 56% (he’s my ideal guy, good player)

Glendening should be a target tho, he’d cost nothing

- Slimtj100


They aren't going to do anything. They will just wait for Chytil to come back
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:46 AM ET
Just looking at faceoff stats, couple of guys should be looked into

Glendening from wings, winning 69% of draws
Henrique (big contract tho) winning 56%
Bonino 57%
Dvorak 56% (he’s my ideal guy, good player)

Glendening should be a target tho, he’d cost nothing

Zib is 45%, eeek
Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 29 @ 10:47 AM ET
Just looking at faceoff stats, couple of guys should be looked into

Glendening from wings, winning 69% of draws
Henrique (big contract tho) winning 56%
Bonino 57%
Dvorak 56% (he’s my ideal guy, good player)

Glendening should be a target tho, he’d cost nothing

- Slimtj100


8 games: 0 points, 8 PIM and a -4. He should cost nothing.
TJ, how is being better at faceoffs, but being worse overall going to help us?
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jan 29 @ 10:50 AM ET
- fixed
- Tonybere

Such a stupid penalty last night. One thing to be a tough guy in the corners. Another to cross check a guy from behind on the way back to the bench.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 29 @ 10:52 AM ET
8 games: 0 points, 8 PIM and a -4. He should cost nothing.
TJ, how is being better at faceoffs, but being worse overall going to help us?

- Tonybere

He’s a fourth liner dude lol

Look what Buffalo did last night in OT. Eakin took the faceoff won it, then left the ice. That’s what I’m talking about. They NEED someone who can win a big faceoff at an important time. It’s a must
NYRCeph
New York Rangers
Location: This is my way.
Joined: 11.25.2020

Jan 29 @ 10:53 AM ET
Just looking at faceoff stats, couple of guys should be looked into

Glendening from wings, winning 69% of draws
Henrique (big contract tho) winning 56%
Bonino 57%
Dvorak 56% (he’s my ideal guy, good player)

Glendening should be a target tho, he’d cost nothing

Zib is 45%, eeek

- Slimtj100


Adding players would create more issues. Agreed they need to be better on faceoffs cause it is maddening, adding contracts is no good. They should solve the issue when they decide to weed out players that don't fit on the team.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 29 @ 10:57 AM ET
Kreider should be a mainstay on the 3rd line and play pp1/pk
- nyrangers2


A guy who's made a career of not being able to finish should not be on the PP1.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:00 AM ET
A guy who's made a career of not being able to finish should not be on the PP1.
- aecliptic


when Kreider is on though he does a great job and setting screens and deflecting shots

Tonybere
New York Rangers
Location: ON
Joined: 02.04.2016

Jan 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
A guy who's made a career of not being able to finish should not be on the PP1.
- aecliptic


Only once in the last 6 years has Kreider scored less than 20 goals, and that one was his blood clot season. And over that time, he leads the league in deflection goals. How is in front of the net on the PP not the right place for him?
That fact that we expect more from him does not mean he is not able to finish. He has actually been quite consistent throughout his career.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
Adding players would create more issues. Agreed they need to be better on faceoffs cause it is maddening, adding contracts is no good. They should solve the issue when they decide to weed out players that don't fit on the team.
- NYRCeph

Him in particular makes 1.8 and is UFA after this year. Gimme another reason lol. He’s Rooney that wins 69% of faceoffs

Whoever it is I done really care, but someone needs to win faceoffs. Bring back Messier for all I care haha. It’s probably the biggest issue on this team right now
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:03 AM ET
He’s a fourth liner dude lol

Look what Buffalo did last night in OT. Eakin took the faceoff won it, then left the ice. That’s what I’m talking about. They NEED someone who can win a big faceoff at an important time. It’s a must

- Slimtj100


I would rather try to strike a three way deal for Henrique. Ducks would have to bring his price down to 4m per for us. Strome would go to some other team to unload his contract. We would send a winger and a mid-late pick the other way to someone, nothing major. We would then sign Boyle for the 4th line.

LAF, Zib, Buch
Panarin, Henrique, Kakko
Kreider, Howden, Blackwell
Lemieux, Boyle, PDG/Rooney
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:04 AM ET
A guy who's made a career of not being able to finish should not be on the PP1.
- aecliptic


Kreider is perfect in front of the net. Has most deflected goals over past 5 years. plus he was always clutch and able to finish on the pp

He’s to streaky for top 6 minutes with Panarin and Laf on the team
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
when Kreider is on though he does a great job and setting screens and deflecting shots
- jimbro83


It depends on the PP thats on the ice, if they want to roll 1 Dman and 4 forwards, yes, maybe play him on the PP1 to create screens. If theyre running 2 Dmen and 3 forwards then no, we need guys with more skill out there.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jan 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
when Kreider is on though he does a great job and setting screens and deflecting shots
- jimbro83

Yeah, I think for his role on the PP he's fine. If they were thinking of changing it up, the only other person I would swap for Kreider is Kakko. He has been really good at locating rebounds and putting them back on net.

I think Kakko is my new guy now that Quickie is gone. ALL ABOARD!
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
I would rather try to strike a three way deal for Henrique. Ducks would have to bring his price down to 4m per for us. Strome would go to some other team to unload his contract. We would send a winger and a mid-late pick the other way to someone, nothing major. We would then sign Boyle for the 4th line.

LAF, Zib, Buch
Panarin, Henrique, Kakko
Kreider, Howden, Blackwell
Lemieux, Boyle, PDG/Rooney

- aecliptic


I wouldn’t mind it. He does have 4 yrs left tho. I’d still go with Johanson, with some salary retained there. He needs a change of scenery, he’s still a good player imo
mdw7413
New York Rangers
Location: I would rather see a dudes hairy balls than his hairy feet-Jimbro
Joined: 12.13.2013

Jan 29 @ 11:05 AM ET
A guy who's made a career of not being able to finish should not be on the PP1.
- aecliptic


Hes in the top 3rd of the league in PP goals over the last 3 years. If anything, thats exactly where he belongs.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:13 AM ET
I wouldn’t mind it. He does have 4 yrs left tho. I’d still go with Johanson, with some salary retained there. He needs a change of scenery, he’s still a good player imo
- Slimtj100


The thing is, Henrique (with money retained) doesnt affect us financially in the long term. Going after Johansen for a year longer, double the money of Henrique (even with money retained) and will affect us financially long term. Nashville isnt desperate enough to move him and retain 40-50% of his cap. If he doesnt pan out were screwed. Id rather wait to see what happens with Barkov next year.
KreiderBomb
New York Rangers
Location: "I'm outta here. Childish,fraud fans. Good luck not having any youth coming up for like 10 years, yo
Joined: 06.02.2014

Jan 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
when Kreider is on though he does a great job and setting screens and deflecting shots
- jimbro83

Ziba hits those top corner short side shots because of Kreider in front, the PP isn't really a problem, they're dominating zone time they could have potted one a few times last night, only move I would make is Buch, Laf or Kakko for Strome
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
Hes in the top 3rd of the league in PP goals over the last 3 years. If anything, thats exactly where he belongs.
- mdw7413


Ok, lemme rephrase, as I did before, its not that I dont want him on the PP, I just think its situational based on what set plays they are running. Some set plays require more stick skill.
2sticks1puck
New York Rangers
Location: The not quite neutral zone
Joined: 01.31.2019

Jan 29 @ 11:14 AM ET
Just catching up on the board after a nice win. I'm not a fancy stats guy, but don't forget guys our expected goal difference per game is actually positive this season. There's plenty of reason to think we've been really unlucky this year with results.

I'd give up a bunch of assets for a top asset, but I think that our luck will even out over time. We aren't out of this yet in terms of the playoffs, might just be time to keep the ship steady.
Bean_Dip
New York Rangers
Location: Bean Town, MA
Joined: 09.30.2015

Jan 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
Just catching up on the board after a nice win. I'm not a fancy stats guy, but don't forget guys our expected goal difference per game is actually positive this season. There's plenty of reason to think we've been really unlucky this year with results.

I'd give up a bunch of assets for a top asset, but I think that our luck will even out over time. We aren't out of this yet in terms of the playoffs, might just be time to keep the ship steady.

- 2sticks1puck

Tons of chances every single game. While the start to the season was maddening, I think what you've mentioned is very true. And it's been a good reminder by TJ (go figure ) to be patient.

This hasn't been mentioned yet: Shesty got his first win of the season yesterday. We forget because he went 10-2 last year, but he's still technically a rookie. Like Laf getting his first goal, Shesty getting his first win should shake the tension.
jimbro83
New York Rangers
Location: Lets Go Rangers!, NY
Joined: 12.25.2009

Jan 29 @ 11:21 AM ET
Ziba hits those top corner short side shots because of Kreider in front, the PP isn't really a problem, they're dominating zone time they could have potted one a few times last night, only move I would make is Buch, Laf or Kakko for Strome
- KreiderBomb


I noticed Lafreniere won a faceoff last night pretty convincingly
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jan 29 @ 11:24 AM ET
I noticed Lafreniere won a faceoff last night pretty convincingly
- jimbro83


We all want the pipe dream of him slotting in at C and fitting in seamlessly.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 29 @ 11:25 AM ET
The thing is, Henrique (with money retained) doesnt affect us financially in the long term. Going after Johansen for a year longer, double the money of Henrique (even with money retained) and will affect us financially long term. Nashville isnt desperate enough to move him and retain 40-50% of his cap. If he doesnt pan out were screwed. Id rather wait to see what happens with Barkov next year.
- aecliptic

If we got johanson with 3 mill retained, paying him 5 mill, I’d do a jig. A second line center at 28 yrs old for 5 more seasons, that’s a homerun imo. But you’re probably right that Nashville doesn’t necessarily have to move him, or want to. They’d probably want to move all 8 million, which I’m not willing to do Henrique certainly seems more likely of a target that could be had, which I’m fine with if would be him. The bottom line is we can’t go into next season without it being addressed.

My hope is Barron could be that guy, but you still have a wait and see approach with him, which we can’t do either. They need an established guy. If Strome could win faceoffs he’d be fine, but he can’t either. And Zib is only 45%
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jan 29 @ 11:26 AM ET
Tons of chances every single game. While the start to the season was maddening, I think what you've mentioned is very true. And it's been a good reminder by TJ (go figure ) to be patient.

This hasn't been mentioned yet: Shesty got his first win of the season yesterday. We forget because he went 10-2 last year, but he's still technically a rookie. Like Laf getting his first goal, Shesty getting his first win should shake the tension.

- Bean_Dip

Yes that very true lol. I try to get you guys off the ledge sometimes haha
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