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atibus
Joined: 06.23.2011

Feb 4 @ 1:30 PM ET
Announcers last night-

Pasta gets a fortunate bounce off of Provorov = 'OMG PASTA SO GOOD'

JVR -> Voracek makes a tough play out of his skates = 'Boston complete breakdown'

I'm not a fan of Mike Tirico for hockey.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 4 @ 1:31 PM ET
Center
- Tomahawk


I know I will be shredded for this but...I have often thought that when TK is playing with Hayes that TK should be playing center and Hayes who wins more one on one battles and protects the puck well should be on wing. Also, with TKs speed, I feel he has the potential to be better getting back on defense. Hayes could still take his strong side FO draws.

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 1:35 PM ET
His entire midget and junior career was as a RW'er. He played his time in minors as a RW'er. He didn't get converted to C until a couple seasons into his NHL career. And he didn't end up on the LW until he was in his 30's.

Suffice to say, he's capable of playing RW.

- Tomahawk


That's over a decade ago. Giroux since moving from center has only played LW. He has a preference for LW. Again, you know this. If he's not going to play center, he is a LW.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 1:37 PM ET
Giroux has played a spot game at RW here and there in recent years also. I think one of the main reasons they choose to try him on LW was the composition of the roster depth at RW at the time plus he played the left on the PP. He can definitely play RW. They just haven’t needed him to do it on a regular basis since his professional start.

So do you know what position(s) TK played in junior?

- NC Flyers Fan


The main reason for choosing LW is that Giroux wanted to play the left side.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 4 @ 1:40 PM ET
The main reason for choosing LW is that Giroux wanted to play the left side.
- MJL


Here:

Giroux-Coots-Lindblom

captain is happy
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 4 @ 1:46 PM ET
Well Peter Dikk you are a very knowledgeable poster. I think you can figure out a way if you put your mind to it.

Don't think they can just terminate the contract so that isn't an option.

- login


There are ways to do so but you are correct. It’s not like the NFL
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 4 @ 1:46 PM ET
Here:

Giroux-Coots-Lindblom

captain is happy

- NC Flyers Fan


I think I’d try JVR on RW there honestly. Or Jake.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 4 @ 1:50 PM ET
[quote=arichardson22]

I love what I’m seeing from JVR with Farabee. With Jake, I think they need to keep the lines balanced.

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 4 @ 1:51 PM ET
Yesterday, you all mentioned line possibilities when Coots comes back from injury. If everyone is healthy, this is my preference:

Lindblom-Couturier-Giroux
TK-Hayes-Voracek
JVR-Patrick-Farabee
Laughton-Bunnaman-Raffl

NAK wouldn’t be the guy out if he was playing an all-around game that he showed last season. He is taking far too many penalties for his average ice time, and he isn’t shooting the puck.

I think Lindblom is starting to come around, and putting him back with Coots might get him going.

- NC Flyers Fan

The guy I would consider scratching if we could scratch a guy is Lindblom. Not out of anger, we know what he’s been through. It’s more so because he’s been soft. He might need a push. He’s in the top six and doing nothing.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
[quote=NC Flyers Fan]

Agree on Farabee and JVR. I do think Jake and Hayes have flashed some solid chemistry too so far this season.
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 4 @ 1:58 PM ET
It would be silly to scratch Laughton.
- MJL

Why would it be silly to bench Laughton for a game, he made a dumb decision at the end of the game that essentially cost his team a chance to win a game in OT. It was selfish and he needs to now this will not be tolerated. The Coach had him out there to preserve the tie in regulation and he made a bad decision. 1 game is not going to cost this team anything and will hopefully send a message to everyone, dumb selfish plays will have consequences.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 4 @ 1:59 PM ET
The guy I would consider scratching if we could scratch a guy is Lindblom. Not out of anger, we know what he’s been through. It’s more so because he’s been soft. He might need a push. He’s in the top six and doing nothing.
- SuperSchennBros


Last night, Lindblom was driving to the net. I think he is coming around. I would definitely give it a few more games.

Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:01 PM ET
He is not a key player on this team.
- login


I'm sorry but I disagree. I'm not giving him a pass for last night but he is an integral part of this team and vastly underrated in terms of his importance.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 4 @ 2:03 PM ET
saw this rumor:

According to George Richards of Florida Hockey Now, a possible deal involving Gostisbehere and Yandle was on the table but Yandle simply refused to waive his no movement clause.

- arichardson22


Pass.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 4 @ 2:15 PM ET
I'm sorry but I disagree. I'm not giving him a pass for last night but he is an integral part of this team and vastly underrated in terms of his importance.
- Pelle31Forever

With healthy lineup he is your 4th line center. Not a key player on the team.
Remove him from the lineup and you will see no significant diff in the results.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 4 @ 2:19 PM ET
Pass.
- Pelle31Forever



I never understood the rationale for this trade from the Flyers standpoint. Trade Ghost for a guy 7 years older and WAY past his prime, $1,950,000 more on the cap over the same period of time when you will need that cap room, plus having the expansion draft coming up. It makes no sense.
arichardson22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Feb 4 @ 2:22 PM ET
Pass.
- Pelle31Forever


Agree, want no part of that trade
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 4 @ 2:32 PM ET
Pass.
- Pelle31Forever


Yandle isn’t going to help this team imo.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Feb 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
Why would it be silly to bench Laughton for a game, he made a dumb decision at the end of the game that essentially cost his team a chance to win a game in OT. It was selfish and he needs to now this will not be tolerated. The Coach had him out there to preserve the tie in regulation and he made a bad decision. 1 game is not going to cost this team anything and will hopefully send a message to everyone, dumb selfish plays will have consequences.
- Daceroni


Yes exactly. The coach had him out there to preserve a tie. The coach trusts him. He plays in key situations for this team. He plays with pace and intensity every game. He made a bad decision and took a bad penalty. Learn from it. He does not deserve to be scratched in my opinion.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
I’d say my overall complain comes from the approach to these games, heading in. They never look prepared and regardless of the outcome, they look like the weaker team. Boston would use two guys to smother one of our guys off the puck legally. So out of the gate, physicality is an issue but it’s boys against men when we face Boston or Washington.

I think what hurt us was scratching Konency against the Islanders. We had great balanced lines prior and than in game 2, Vigneault doesn’t come back with the same set up. Do you all think Lindblom needs more ice time, on a scoring line, while JvR is hot?

- SuperSchennBros

Lindblom had a few chances last night and didn't bury them. So did TK for that matter. Its been a problem on this team. On the plus side Farabee looks like he has a shot and is not afraid to use it. He is someone I would try to get more PP or o-zone time.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:48 PM ET
In the past you are right but not this year, this year refs have been calling *everything*, not matter how harmless. It reminds me of when the NHL came out of the lockout in I think 2004 and wanted to open up the game by getting rid of the clutching and grabbing that won the Devils a few cups. It seems like there is a similar mandate going on right now.

But I feel with all this talk about refs, we are letting the Flyers players off the hook for an absolutely unacceptable break-down. They stopped playing at a time that most teams would turn it up and close it out. This the real problem we should be discussing!

- jd250


I don't want to let them off the hook but they clearly did not make calls against the Bruins. I think it was because they were down not because it was the flyers. The refs made themselves part of the game. Championship teams fight through that...
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yes exactly. The coach had him out there to preserve a tie. The coach trusts him. He plays in key situations for this team. He plays with pace and intensity every game. He made a bad decision and took a bad penalty. Learn from it. He does not deserve to be scratched in my opinion.
- MJL

I agree, I would not bench him either. He made a bad decision and the PK didn't bail him out, nor did they bail out Hayes. WIth the Bruins net empty near the end of the game, I would have liked the Flyers to be more aggressive in trying to score a goal. They were too passive IMO in that moment.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:51 PM ET
I never understood the rationale for this trade from the Flyers standpoint. Trade Ghost for a guy 7 years older and WAY past his prime, $1,950,000 more on the cap over the same period of time when you will need that cap room, plus having the expansion draft coming up. It makes no sense.
- MBFlyerfan



Ghost makes mistakes, all D do. But Ghost breaks the puck out as well as any of the D, he is better suited for 2nd or 3rd pair. Gus, he is still a disaster, lining Braun up against Boston's top line is asking for trouble
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:55 PM ET
The guy I would consider scratching if we could scratch a guy is Lindblom. Not out of anger, we know what he’s been through. It’s more so because he’s been soft. He might need a push. He’s in the top six and doing nothing.
- SuperSchennBros



might do well to sit a game and watch. But if it hurts your chances to win, you don't.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 4 @ 2:55 PM ET
[quote=arichardson22]


I would leave JVR and Farabee togehter
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