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AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 6 @ 6:33 PM ET
First off I'm shocked Sam Bennett Is getting more attention than he deserves, 2. I have seven teams on my list that can win the 2021 covid-19 tournament, Toronto Isn't on that list.
- Shady1962


Well then I suppose it’s a good thing you’re just a weird guy with a meaningless list
Quillanrocks
Location: Courtenay, BC
Joined: 07.22.2013

Feb 6 @ 6:41 PM ET
Not sure I get it . . . Didn't the Leafs have a player like Bennett on their team just a couple of seasons ago? Guy by the name of Kadri. Sure, Kadri earned a bad reputation for some poor decisions at critical times, but he also had two 30 goal seasons before JT arrived, if memory serves me. Bennett's come no where close to that production but having watched him play A LOT, he can also be prone to letting his emotions dictate poor decisions at the wrong time, as well. Don't get me wrong, I like both Kadri and Bennett as players, but this is a head-scratcher. (Was Bennett part of the deal that Kadri nixed from Toronto to Calgary 2 years ago? . . . I can't recall.)
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 6 @ 6:48 PM ET
Not sure I get it . . . Didn't the Leafs have a player like Bennett on their team just a couple of seasons ago? Guy by the name of Kadri. Sure, Kadri earned a bad reputation for some poor decisions at critical times, but he also had two 30 goal seasons before JT arrived, if memory serves me. Bennett's come no where close to that production but having watched him play A LOT, he can also be prone to letting his emotions dictate poor decisions at the wrong time, as well. Don't get me wrong, I like both Kadri and Bennett as players, but this is a head-scratcher. (Was Bennett part of the deal that Kadri nixed from Toronto to Calgary 2 years ago? . . . I can't recall.)
- Quillanrocks



Kadri is a billion times better than Bennett. It’s a stretch to compare them at all

I don’t think anyone could have predicted Barrie would be so terrible in TO, but I still hated that trade from the get go

He was the only one who played with any grit during that last playoff series
DrunkenCanuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Check your PM, ON
Joined: 07.14.2009

Feb 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
Not sure I get it . . . Didn't the Leafs have a player like Bennett on their team just a couple of seasons ago? Guy by the name of Kadri. Sure, Kadri earned a bad reputation for some poor decisions at critical times, but he also had two 30 goal seasons before JT arrived, if memory serves me. Bennett's come no where close to that production but having watched him play A LOT, he can also be prone to letting his emotions dictate poor decisions at the wrong time, as well. Don't get me wrong, I like both Kadri and Bennett as players, but this is a head-scratcher. (Was Bennett part of the deal that Kadri nixed from Toronto to Calgary 2 years ago? . . . I can't recall.)
- Quillanrocks


It just speaks to how terrible a GM Dubas is. He’s been saved by the talent put in place before he arrived.
that Kadri trade is worse than Rask for Raycroft.
trueblue1
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Feb 6 @ 7:03 PM ET
Sounds like bs
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Feb 6 @ 7:07 PM ET
No it hasn’t. But I guess I just gave a free click, lmfao
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Feb 6 @ 7:08 PM ET
If I'm Flames it starts with Robertson and includes one of those other cats. Then you have a deal.
- dozerD10

Keep smokin the good stuff lol
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Feb 6 @ 7:08 PM ET
Those in the know are aware talks between the Flames and Maple Leafs are unlikely as the Leafs have informed Calgary thar Kerfoot will need to be part of a potential trade package which would need to include a pick or two coming to Toronto. While the players are both 3C with Kerfoot being a statistically more robust player, it seems the Flames are not interested in taking on Kerfoot's salary.

It seems these are unlikely trade partners unless the Flames relent. With a likelyhood some other team may mistakenly see Bennett as more than a 25-30 point player, there will likely be better options for the Flames this summer.

- Jackie Daytona

Well said
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Feb 6 @ 7:10 PM ET
Love these proposed deals. Sandin? Robertson? Lol

It’ll be garbage (ie Engvall or Dermott) for Bennett, who is basically a fourth liner

- AxlRose91

Sadly Dermott ain’t garbage
Justbecause
Location: World, ON
Joined: 02.08.2020

Feb 6 @ 7:14 PM ET
Not sure I get it . . . Didn't the Leafs have a player like Bennett on their team just a couple of seasons ago? Guy by the name of Kadri. Sure, Kadri earned a bad reputation for some poor decisions at critical times, but he also had two 30 goal seasons before JT arrived, if memory serves me. Bennett's come no where close to that production but having watched him play A LOT, he can also be prone to letting his emotions dictate poor decisions at the wrong time, as well. Don't get me wrong, I like both Kadri and Bennett as players, but this is a head-scratcher. (Was Bennett part of the deal that Kadri nixed from Toronto to Calgary 2 years ago? . . . I can't recall.)
- Quillanrocks

If I’m Kadri I woulda crushed that third liner DeBrusk after he crushed Marleau too. I’d take Bennett but definitely Dermott ain’t involved
AxlRose91
Joined: 09.24.2013

Feb 6 @ 7:16 PM ET
It just speaks to how terrible a GM Dubas is. He’s been saved by the talent put in place before he arrived.
that Kadri trade is worse than Rask for Raycroft.

- DrunkenCanuck


Settle down. It’s not close

He’s been pretty solid, overall. And certainly compared to Gillis he’s been incredible. That guy has been flat out awful. Look at what he’s done to a Canucks team that kinda looked promising a year ago
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

Feb 6 @ 7:41 PM ET
FIRST!!!










any habs rumours?!?










nuff said
DrunkFan
Joined: 02.26.2018

Feb 6 @ 7:45 PM ET
Jimmy V might/could be on the move
flipneil
Joined: 02.22.2007

Feb 6 @ 8:50 PM ET
First off I'm shocked Sam Bennett Is getting more attention than he deserves, 2. I have seven teams on my list that can win the 2021 covid-19 tournament, Toronto Isn't on that list.
- Shady1962



I'm concerned for you. I think your mom might be spiking your baby bottle with alcohol.
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

Feb 6 @ 10:30 PM ET
If I'm Flames it starts with Robertson and includes one of those other cats. Then you have a deal.
- dozerD10


Then if you were a Flames fan you'd end up disappointed, 'cause there's no way in Hell Robertson would be involved, never mind it starting with him.
Byfuglien Ate Me
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burger King
Joined: 09.24.2010

Feb 6 @ 11:43 PM ET

I’d be loathe to send anything more than Dermott for Bennett. He’s Peter Holland.
flashfire
Joined: 10.02.2006

Feb 7 @ 1:44 AM ET
price just went up
sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

Feb 7 @ 6:42 AM ET
He's just not good. No reason for Dubas to make a trade unless he were getting some cap space. Even then. Negatory.
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 7 @ 10:21 AM ET
Bennett scored in the flames win last night. Does that mean the discussions can enter phase 3 now?
Misterbator
Calgary Flames
Location: Monkeytown, NB
Joined: 10.13.2014

Feb 7 @ 12:36 PM ET
Kadri is a billion times better than Bennett. It’s a stretch to compare them at all

I don’t think anyone could have predicted Barrie would be so terrible in TO, but I still hated that trade from the get go

He was the only one who played with any grit during that last playoff series

- AxlRose91


Agreed. Bennett has shown nothing since his rookie season, outside of the playoffs. He does have some value, but nowhere near as much as Kadri in terms of offensive production and driving a line at the C position. Blame it on whomever, he hasn't lived up to his draft pedigree. I think Bennett might thrive on a different team, however.
Hardbalz
Joined: 06.08.2011

Feb 7 @ 1:16 PM ET
Well there's the dagger. He's not going to the Leafs
TurdFergeson
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: On the road again
Joined: 01.04.2021

Feb 7 @ 2:25 PM ET
Well there's the dagger. He's not going to the Leafs
- Hardbalz

Dozens had mentioned the leafs before Ek. Makes sense in division so no quarantine.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Feb 7 @ 2:36 PM ET
People won't like to hear this: Bennett hasn't been trying at all for the past few years on purpose.
As a Flames fan, I could see it. Post-trade request, they put him on the top line with Gaudreau and Monahan - and it's like Calgary acquired a completely new player. He's making much sharper plays, actually putting an effort into puck battles and not playing half a** hockey. This also explains why he's "a playoff performer".
Up to this point he's been pouting and not even trying, I bet you anything he's jealous that Gaudreau, Monahan, and Tkachuk - all got major pay days, and thinks that the Flames ruined his career. I think that's pretty pathetic for being a multi-millionaire already.
The bottom line is that it's not going to work out in Calgary for Sam Bennett, if you look at how he looked at Monahan after he scored that goal against Edmonton yesterday, I think the look in Bennett's eyes at Monahan says everything.
You can bet Calgary will lose this trade, and Bennett will give you the playoff version effort level with his next team all the time.
And it's not a matter of "giving him time", he's probably at 2nd or 3rd line player when he's playing hard, I think he's already there but not trying, and I think on the other hand - there is some truth to Gaudreau+Monahan playing like crap on purpose too, when they get separated. Those two have driven so many great players out of town including Jagr and other I can't think of right away - and so as a result of that, he's been paired with junk 3rd/4th liners, to some degree he's got a point, but his effort level and the non-sensical games he's playing, can be blamed for him not getting penciled in on the new Lindholm/Tkachuk line.
Trade Bennett to Buffalo or some other hole - ever since he got angry in Calgary, his effort level on every shift has been like "THE" Dubois shift in Columbus that caused him to get benched and traded out of town.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Feb 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
He's just not good. No reason for Dubas to make a trade unless he were getting some cap space. Even then. Negatory.
- sokosteve


Bennett's jealous that Gaudreau, Monahan, Lindholm, Tkachuk - all got huge contracts, and he didn't. It's not a coincidence that you get a different animal in the playoffs out of Bennett - that's when he actually tries. Think of Bennett as a permanent "the shift" courtesy of Dubois in Columbus that got him benched. He's a disgruntled player. On one hand, he's justified to request a trade, because whenever Gaudreau/Monahan are split up, they play like crap, and I think that could possibly be on purpose too.

And his performance against the Oiler's last night, makes me 110% convinced he wasn't trying before, because that post-trade request game, he was giving you the "playoff" Sam Bennett. I don't think it's a matter of "giving Sam time" as Brian Burke always says, he could possibly already be a 2nd line player - but it's hard to tell because he's not given that consistent opportunity in Calgary, and then there's other non-sense going on like not finding a willing line mate with Gaudreau/Monahan trying to sway coaching decisions, by not playing well when they're split up. I think Gaudreau's "resurgence" could also be BS, and it might just be that he's back on a line with Monahan, so he's playing well because he's getting his way.

And if you think about it, I think the coaching staff aren't stupid, and they know he's doing this too. Post-trade request, he played with Monahan/Gaudreau, and barely tried. Then he got benched, put on the taxi squad for the next game. 3rd game later, post trade request, against the Oilers - you finally get "playoff Sam Bennett" - the message there was you either prove your trade value, or we'll really finish your career - so under this context, there's absolutely nothing to salvage out of Bennett, and you could expect the Flames to lose the trade.
Dr. Leaf
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oakville, ON
Joined: 07.01.2018

Feb 7 @ 3:40 PM ET
Bennys grit/skill would be the perfect fit in Toronto.
I just dont think the names thrown out by the Toronto media are any where close.
Dermott, Engevall, Sandin, Lilegren etc... its going to take more than that.

- DEDDIE


Bennett is not good. If Dubas gave up sandin or Liljigren in a deal for him it would be a fireable offense. Dermott might even be an overpay.
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