There is, Roussel, Beagle, Erikson, Sven, Willie D, Malhotra, Gilman, Linden, all these players and executives leaving or being signed are combined damning to his legacy. Letting those players(Toffoli) all walk was the effect, the bad contracts and poor cap management are the cause.

A few more drafts is three more seasons, I don't think so.
We need a president, to bad burk is gone, that would have been fun.
- Pres.cup

Disagree respectfully. If Cap management was such an issue why were Markstrom and Tanev offered fair contracts? If that was the case they would have been offered nothing. Losing Stecher and Leivo are insignificant next to this cap management crap lol.

Toffoli I could see as some small effect but did you really want him for 4 seasons at that price? Likely not.

Disagree respectfully. If Cap management was such an issue why were Markstrom and Tanev offered fair contracts? If that was the case they would have been offered nothing. Losing Stecher and Leivo are insignificant next to this cap management crap lol.

Toffoli I could see as some small effect but did you really want him for 4 seasons at that price? Likely not.
- LordHumungous

Depends what you call fair. I imagine Markstrom got offered 5mx2, Tanev 4mx2 and they went with Schmidt at 6m and JV at 2.5m instead.

Are you suggesting that there isn't any cap issue? That 15.5m in replacement level players like sven, LE, Beagle and Roussel isn't an issue and didn't first them the opportunity to sign better players?

JB is on record as saying that he ran out of time to move money out to sign players.

So, is Hughes a one hit wonder, just like our boy DeAngelo?

So, is Hughes a one hit wonder, just like our boy DeAngelo?
- Cupcakes

More like your no hit wonder Lafreniere this year .

So, is Hughes a one hit wonder, just like our boy DeAngelo?
- Cupcakes

Wishful thinking there Buttcakes.

So, is Hughes a one hit wonder, just like our boy DeAngelo?
- Cupcakes

Look at the stats at least! Offensively he is one of the premier dmen last year and this year. Deangelo is just an arrogant (frank) that got himself run out of his dressing room. Be lucky to get another contract, lovker room cancer.

Look at the stats at least! Offensively he is one of the premier dmen last year and this year. Deangelo is just an arrogant (frank) that got himself run out of his dressing room. Be lucky to get another contract, lovker room cancer.
- neem55

Sounds like there might be a couple of those in Canucks room too

More like your no hit wonder Lafreniere this year .
- VANTEL

We like to bring our young guys along slowly and slowly break them into the league so they don't regress by the 2nd or 3rd year

Wishful thinking there Buttcakes.
- Load Management

You talk as smart as your GM which is a lot smarter than that Penis cup guy who is the dumbest poster on here

Where has your resident funny guy Nuckup been
I miss his comedy

I think he has learned from his mistakes and that is why I think he should be given the chance. This offseason almost everyone here here said don't sign this guy or that guy. He did everything that people here requested.

He kept away from free agency and locking long term cap contracts.

Calgary Toronto and Montreal all spent to the cap and wheeled and dealed this year and only one will walk out of this division. They went all in and will be cap strapped next year.
- VANTEL

This is a yes and no for me. Yes, you are 100% correct in that we (you and I and lots of others) didn’t want him to go long on older players and to stay out of free agency. I applaud him for it, even though I don’t believe he actually had a choice. I’m still mad about the past and Incan hold a grudge with the best of them

The no part for me is when you try and separate the Canucks from Leafs and Habs. All three teams have spent to the cap, the difference is the Canucks didn’t spend the extra dollars they could have to actually improve (by buying out, trading and adding picks etc).

I also didn’t want them to do this, just ride it out...

You talk as smart as your GM which is a lot smarter than that Penis cup guy who is the dumbest poster on here

Where has your resident funny guy Nuckup been
I miss his comedy
- Cupcakes

He went to Bestbuy to get a new keyboard

You talk as smart as your GM which is a lot smarter than that Penis cup guy who is the dumbest poster on here

Where has your resident funny guy Nuckup been
I miss his comedy
- Cupcakes

Just bringing it down to a level you seem to understand. No need to waste anything better until you up your game.

He went to Bestbuy to get a new keyboard
- 1970vintage

You talk as smart as your GM which is a lot smarter than that Penis cup guy who is the dumbest poster on here

Where has your resident funny guy Nuckup been
I miss his comedy
- Cupcakes

Aww, cupcake, show me on the doll where I hurt your feelings?

Aww, cupcake, show me on the doll where I hurt your feelings?
- Pres.cup

That doll is gonna be pretty crusty by the time he's done.

He went to Bestbuy to get a new keyboard
- 1970vintage

That doll is gonna be pretty crusty by the time he's done.
- Load Management

That’s the second reference to touching the doll tonight.. is this an acceptance thing or a disturbing thing, I’m so confused.

Gay frogs
- Nucker101

100 % guaranteed Habs blog. Visit them, join their conversations, you will be welcomed back, I promise.

We like to bring our young guys along slowly and slowly break them into the league so they don't regress by the 2nd or 3rd year
- Cupcakes

I see that. Lias Andersson , Bust Lafreniere, Bust Kravtsov, Bust Kakko and super trade for Deangelo

This is a yes and no for me. Yes, you are 100% correct in that we (you and I and lots of others) didn’t want him to go long on older players and to stay out of free agency. I applaud him for it, even though I don’t believe he actually had a choice. I’m still mad about the past and Incan hold a grudge with the best of them

The no part for me is when you try and separate the Canucks from Leafs and Habs. All three teams have spent to the cap, the difference is the Canucks didn’t spend the extra dollars they could have to actually improve (by buying out, trading and adding picks etc).

I also didn’t want them to do this, just ride it out...
- 1970vintage

Canucks have bought out one player Spooner in seven years. They have not used draft picks to move contracts like the Leafs. This year Tor will have 10 mil to sign 10 players, Habs will have 14.7 to sign 8 players and Canucks have 26 mil to sign 11 players.

That doll is gonna be pretty crusty by the time he's done.
- Load Management

That’s the second reference to touching the doll tonight.. is this an acceptance thing or a disturbing thing, I’m so confused.
- Makita

It's a hurt feelings thing, so Many hurt feelings....

From the Athletic, funny... Down Goes Brown: The NHL’s most painful breakups revisited

Roberto Luongo and the Canucks, 2014

Happier times: Luongo spent 11 seasons in Vancouver, where he was a Vezina finalist twice and led the franchise to within a game of its first Stanley Cup in 2011. Along the way, he signed a 12-year contract that was designed to make him a Canuck for life.

But then: As with so many breakups, a younger redhead was involved.

In this case, that would be Cory Schneider, Luongo’s backup who started to look like he was ready for full-time duty. The two certainly made for a fun pair, but it became clear the Canucks would need to move one. The consensus was that it would be Luongo, who’d even reportedly asked for a trade. But the contract got in the way, and the Canucks shocked us all at the 2013 draft by sending Schneider to the Devils. That just put more pressure on Luongo, who saw his play fall off from his usual all-star level and had a run-in with a certain coach who seems so easy to get along with.

How it ended: The Canucks finally found a taker for Luongo’s deal at the 2014 deadline, sending him to the Panthers for Jacob Markstrom. That trade actually worked out OK for both sides, as Luongo rebounded for some strong seasons in Florida before retiring in 2019 and Markstrom eventually earned full-time starter status in Vancouver. All told, this breakup ended up reasonably amicable, although Canucks fans will remind you that they’re still paying for it to this day.

What kind of breakup it was: The couple who had to break up because they always fought about money.

Mark Messier and the Canucks, 2000

Happier times: On July 28, 1997, Messier left the Rangers to sign a five-year, $30 million deal with the Canucks. Many people thought this was a good idea, for like a day. That’s pretty much it for the “happy times” column.

But then: When it comes to Messier, the question is which ugly to breakup to go with. Walking out on the Oilers in 1991? Bolting the Rangers in 1997? Or this whole debacle. Where to begin? Messier was immediately handed the captaincy, which made some sense since the New York hype machine had already declared him the greatest leader in all of sports. But that meant that franchise icon Trevor Linden got a demotion and eventually a ticket out of town. Messier also took his iconic No. 11, which had been retired in Vancouver since Wayne Maki’s death in 1974. Then the Canucks missed the playoffs for three straight years, with Messier playing OK but never looking dominant. Then the team bought him out. Then the lawsuits started.

Other than that, went great.

How it ended: Badly, thanks for asking. The five-year deal was bought out after three seasons, and it was followed by a dispute over deferred money that Messier eventually won; he was awarded a $6 million settlement in 2012.

For his part, Messier has conceded to some mistakes here and now says he regrets taking the captaincy from Linden. After the buyout, he returned to the Rangers and played four more seasons, performing reasonably well for a 40-something.

As for Vancouver, to this day if you walk into a Canucks fan’s apartment and accidentally say, “This place is messy, eh,” they’ll immediately flip the nearest table and start ranting about wanting to fight Mike Keenan.

What kind of breakup it was: The really ugly one that nobody’s over even all these years later, so we all agree to pretend it didn’t happen. Messier played for the Rangers and Oilers and took three years off in the late-’90s to backpack across Europe — no further questions.

Out of touch so wtf is up with postponed games & ours were not when Miller & Benn were covid protocol?