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K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 14 @ 4:31 PM ET
Anyone else think that players only meeting hurt Tkachuks feelings? Maybe he needs a hug!
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 14 @ 4:36 PM ET
Missed the game but just watched the highlights, we’re lucky to have a true #1 goalie. I just don’t see Rittich getting many games unless Marky can’t go.

Still liking Valimaki game. Guys going to be a good one.

Time for a youth movement on that 4th line, gotta start playing some of the kids. If we don’t welll never know what we have.

pzoxic
Joined: 11.21.2015

Feb 14 @ 4:39 PM ET
Anyone else think that players only meeting hurt Tkachuks feelings? Maybe he needs a hug!
- K-man25

Jajaja yes he needs a hug!! Both Valimaki and Makie are going to be good
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Feb 14 @ 5:50 PM ET
Wow you dumb bro! Lol
- Chuckywhip

Pot, meet kettle.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Feb 14 @ 6:15 PM ET
The idiocy in this thread is approaching all-time highs. One loss and it's suicide watch again. Never mind the fact that they're 3-1 against the Canucks and have outscored them 12-7. Nevermind the fact that the Canucks are an extremely desperate team, which makes them dangerous. Nevermind the fact they'll probably blow them out tomorrow.

And bench Gaudreau for his turnovers? What do you think happens with every offensive player that teams run their offence through? Just a couple names who turn the puck over at a higher clip, Hanifin, Tkachuk, Barzal, Svechnikov, Crosby, Stone (the good one), Pastrnak, Marner, Malkin, Tavares. And Draisaitl and McDavid are right where Gaudreau is as far as turnovers go. Yeah, makes sense to bench the only guy creating offence.

It's one bad game that likely leads to another winning streak. They've still got third in the division pretty much locked up, and will probably be in the hunt for the division when they start getting their Ottawa games.

- Hunkulese


Holy poop Hunk, I actually agree with you (well mostly). I should go buy a Lotto ticket...

Consistency is the challenge with this team but its not exclusive to this team. Play better next game and win resoundingly. Now if we lose like that to the Sens...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Feb 14 @ 6:18 PM ET
Pot, meet kettle.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

^^This^^

Though you may need to explain that analogy and then tell him what analogy means.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Feb 14 @ 6:27 PM ET
^^This^^

Though you may need to explain that analogy and then tell him what analogy means.

- geta02it

Okay donkey. I knew you were an idiot but had no idea to this level.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Feb 14 @ 6:28 PM ET
^^This^^

Though you may need to explain that analogy and then tell him what analogy means.

- geta02it

And the fact you agree with Hunk explains it all.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 14 @ 8:15 PM ET
Anyone else think that players only meeting hurt Tkachuks feelings? Maybe he needs a hug!
- K-man25


I think it probably bothers him a lot that the guys around him aren't as invested as he is, totally.

Lindholm eats an elbow and the ONLY guy to do anything about it was Tkachuk. This team hasn't had one another's back for years and it's pretty gross to watch play out.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 14 @ 8:18 PM ET
The idiocy in this thread is approaching all-time highs. One loss and it's suicide watch again. Never mind the fact that they're 3-1 against the Canucks and have outscored them 12-7. Nevermind the fact that the Canucks are an extremely desperate team, which makes them dangerous. Nevermind the fact they'll probably blow them out tomorrow.

And bench Gaudreau for his turnovers? What do you think happens with every offensive player that teams run their offence through? Just a couple names who turn the puck over at a higher clip, Hanifin, Tkachuk, Barzal, Svechnikov, Crosby, Stone (the good one), Pastrnak, Marner, Malkin, Tavares. And Draisaitl and McDavid are right where Gaudreau is as far as turnovers go. Yeah, makes sense to bench the only guy creating offence.

It's one bad game that likely leads to another winning streak. They've still got third in the division pretty much locked up, and will probably be in the hunt for the division when they start getting their Ottawa games.

- Hunkulese


Did you watch any of the last 3 games? The Flames had no business winning them... Sure, they've outscored the Canucks, because Markstrom has bailed their heartless asses out every night for the last week and a half. The Flames haven't started a game the right way since the POM. They are getting drilled for period(s) at a time and then relying on a capitalizing on VERY few chances to win.

Bottom line - they've been lucky, they haven't been good.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Feb 14 @ 8:37 PM ET
Okay donkey. I knew you were an idiot but had no idea to this level.
- Chuckywhip

Donkey...
Wow. That cuts right to the heart.
Awesome little PM you sent. Ya my avvie is a reflection of what I like... boobs and the Flames. Another solid attempt at a shot. You're two for two my friend.

Keep up the good work, lol.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Feb 14 @ 8:40 PM ET
Did you watch any of the last 3 games? The Flames had no business winning them... Sure, they've outscored the Canucks, because Markstrom has bailed their heartless asses out every night for the last week and a half. The Flames haven't started a game the right way since the POM. They are getting drilled for period(s) at a time and then relying on a capitalizing on VERY few chances to win.

Bottom line - they've been lucky, they haven't been good.

- rmull905


Last two for sure. Winnipeg game I thought was pretty damn good and a actually 60 min effort.
Next two to me will be a clear indication of what this team will be for the remainder of the year.
jessehub
Calgary Flames
Location: BC
Joined: 06.25.2010

Feb 14 @ 9:23 PM ET
Pot, meet kettle.
- Ol_Boy_Wop


No kidding! This dipsheeet is on another level.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Feb 14 @ 9:35 PM ET
No kidding! This dipsheeet is on another level.
- jessehub

There’s a reason he’s been banned multiple times.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Feb 14 @ 11:07 PM ET
I think it probably bothers him a lot that the guys around him aren't as invested as he is, totally.

Lindholm eats an elbow and the ONLY guy to do anything about it was Tkachuk. This team hasn't had one another's back for years and it's pretty gross to watch play out.

- rmull905

This!
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Feb 14 @ 11:08 PM ET
There’s a reason he’s been banned multiple times.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Feb 14 @ 11:09 PM ET
Donkey...
Wow. That cuts right to the heart.
Awesome little PM you sent. Ya my avvie is a reflection of what I like... boobs and the Flames. Another solid attempt at a shot. You're two for two my friend.

Keep up the good work, lol.

- geta02it

Anytime! I’ll be here whenever you need me.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Feb 15 @ 12:21 AM ET
Anytime! I’ll be here whenever you need me.
- Chuckywhip

Like Shakira; wherever, whenever.
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Feb 15 @ 12:29 AM ET
Did you watch any of the last 3 games? The Flames had no business winning them... Sure, they've outscored the Canucks, because Markstrom has bailed their heartless asses out every night for the last week and a half. The Flames haven't started a game the right way since the POM. They are getting drilled for period(s) at a time and then relying on a capitalizing on VERY few chances to win.

Bottom line - they've been lucky, they haven't been good.

- rmull905


Your problem is you forget that there are two teams that play every hockey game, maybe one and a half for Ottawa games. Sometimes, the other team is just going to be better for a period. Sometimes you need your goalie to win you games This also happens with every team. There are going to be ups and downs. Vancouver was also trying to end a losing streak and having to put up with everyone trying to fire their coach and GM. It'd be pretty much impossible to match their effort for a meaningless February game. Toronto was also flat on Saturday for a top of the division rivalry game.

I think fancy stats are overused, but they do an alright job of helping you compare a team to the rest of the league since you can't watch anyone else. All the fancy stats say the Flames are doing fine compared to the rest of the league. Their xGF% is third best in the division and they're as close to the top team as they are to the fourth place team. They also haven't gotten a chance to pad stats against Ottawa yet.

They're doing fine generating chances, doing great at preventing chances, and as everyone in here has pointed out, they haven't played their best hockey yet.




FlamesFan1230
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2006

Feb 15 @ 2:17 AM ET
Can I get some votes to ban Chuckywhip, he is a troll and very annoying.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Feb 15 @ 4:29 AM ET
Can I get some votes to ban Chuckywhip, he is a troll and very annoying.
- FlamesFan1230

You’ll learn to love him.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Feb 15 @ 9:30 AM ET
Can I get some votes to ban Chuckywhip, he is a troll and very annoying.
- FlamesFan1230

Buddy, it’s the internet, take it easy. Whips just trying to keep the conversation going, don’t take it so personal.
Chuckywhip
Joined: 01.20.2021

Feb 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
You’ll learn to love him.
- Ol_Boy_Wop

rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Feb 15 @ 1:02 PM ET
Your problem is you forget that there are two teams that play every hockey game, maybe one and a half for Ottawa games. Sometimes, the other team is just going to be better for a period. Sometimes you need your goalie to win you games This also happens with every team. There are going to be ups and downs. Vancouver was also trying to end a losing streak and having to put up with everyone trying to fire their coach and GM. It'd be pretty much impossible to match their effort for a meaningless February game. Toronto was also flat on Saturday for a top of the division rivalry game.

I think fancy stats are overused, but they do an alright job of helping you compare a team to the rest of the league since you can't watch anyone else. All the fancy stats say the Flames are doing fine compared to the rest of the league. Their xGF% is third best in the division and they're as close to the top team as they are to the fourth place team. They also haven't gotten a chance to pad stats against Ottawa yet.

They're doing fine generating chances, doing great at preventing chances, and as everyone in here has pointed out, they haven't played their best hockey yet.

- Hunkulese


LMAO - sure, there are usually 2 teams playing... except when the Flames totally take a period off. In the first period in the last week (4 games) the Flames have been outshot 61-26. That's not just the other team being better. That's a team that doesn't come out to start the game. Now, yeah, 2 of those games were blowout first periods, 17-3 against the Oilers and 20-4 against the Canucks. But, IMO, it's almost worse that it came against those 2 teams. Can't get up for a BOA? You wanna let a team that's down and out in the Canucks totally dominate you like that?

Worse yet, look at the shot chart vs the Oilers and the one against the Canucks - the Flames shots are largely from the outside. There is 1 game in the 5 below where they dominated the quality of chances. In literally every other game, they allow their opponent easy access to the front of the net and high danger scoring areas.

This is a trend. It's not a fluke, it's not that the other team is playing necessarily better, it's that the Flames can't defend this area of the ice at all right now and they are getting caved in. The eye test, even in the wins over the last week, has been that they've been lucky moreso than good. Markstrom has not stolen a game. He's committed serial robbery to even keep these games close.

Feb 13 - loss vs Canucks
https://www.hockey-refere...xscores/202102130VAN.html

Feb 11 Win vs Canucks:
https://www.hockey-refere...xscores/202102110VAN.html

Feb 9 win vs Jets:
https://www.hockey-refere...xscores/202102090CGY.html

Feb 6 win vs Oilers (though, let's be real, Koskinen was just poop)
https://www.hockey-refere...xscores/202102060CGY.html

Feb 4 loss vs Jets:
https://www.hockey-refere...xscores/202102040WPG.html
Squilliam
Calgary Flames
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2015

Feb 15 @ 5:06 PM ET
Can I get some votes to ban Chuckywhip, he is a troll and very annoying.
- FlamesFan1230



Guys, cmon, I expect better from all of you. We are an inclusive community, a great group of people. Chuckywhip included, hes obviously very special and we need to be welcoming, just like we are with hunk. GFG
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