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Dude we get it, you're a glass half empty type of guy. Its okay that not everyone shares your same negative way of thinking. You do realize that, right?
- SimpleJack

My point is top 6 is $6-8m that's all...

If this is true, he would just be taking Soderberg's "spot" on the PP. He'd be positioned higher and be more a shooter than planting in front of the goalie.

Sounds like this is a real thing with Boqvist.

Colliton just now: "It’s an option for us. He’s a right-hand shot so we don’t have many of them... When he gets back in the lineup, he’s a power-play guy and that could be a way to get him in there."
- Chunk

11F/7D lineups?

Sounds like Boqvist is going to have to earn a spot on the back end.

11F/7D lineups?

Sounds like Boqvist is going to have to earn a spot on the back end.
- mohel[/quote
Maybe thus is serving as a message that his performance hasn't been good enough. Maybe this lights a fire as he is forced to recognize what needs to improve in his game.

I am willing to see how he does but really feel playing a lot this season in Rockford is beneficial.

11F/7D lineups?

Sounds like Boqvist is going to have to earn a spot on the back end.
- mohel

Nothing ever wrong with that!

If this is true, he would just be taking Soderberg's "spot" on the PP. He'd be positioned higher and be more a shooter than planting in front of the goalie.

Sounds like this is a real thing with Boqvist.

Colliton just now: "It’s an option for us. He’s a right-hand shot so we don’t have many of them... When he gets back in the lineup, he’s a power-play guy and that could be a way to get him in there."
- Chunk

Who knows, maybe this new idea by Colliton will work but not a fan of planting Boqvist in any area of the ice where he will be more stationary or at least confined to a small patch.

Boqvist is at his best when he can be fluid using his dynamic skating, vision, and release. IMO, leave him at the point where he has latitude to roam and create.

Nothing ever wrong with that!
- paulr

Not at all. Good that the coach has enough talented players to reasonably enforce such a standard.

Strome - Poor at the dot. Slow. Poor defensively. Needs to play with higher end wingers. Avoids contact. Low energy. 6 of 8 points on PP. 2 points in 17 games 5v5. Loses board battles. Does not spend much time in front of either net. Only 23, but he has played 180 NHL games. I would rather extend Janmark and move Strome or lose him in the expansion draft.

Carlsson - I liked him more last year. It seems like he is trying to do too much. Takes unnecessary chances/pinches. Often out of position. I also like him much better on the left side than the right.

Johnone dimensional. son - Kind of

Soderberg and Wallmark - I would not mind seeing more of them.
- -Doh-

Gee, can we let the kid play ten games before making a declaration on him.

Regarding the expansion draft. You protect Hagel and expose de Haan. Easy decision for me.

7 forwards

3 D
1 goalie is the way they will go is my guess

Who knows, maybe this new idea by Colliton will work but not a fan of planting Boqvist in any area of the ice where he will be more stationary or at least confined to a small patch.

Boqvist is at his best when he can be fluid using his dynamic skating, vision, and release. IMO, leave him at the point where he has latitude to roam and create.
- Theo Fox

Just still seems like Boqvist needs to physically develop more to play consistently at the NHL level. I wish they'd just let him play in the AHL and let him get ready to be a real contributor when he is ready.

Not at all. Good that the coach has enough talented players to reasonably enforce such a standard.
- mohel[/img]

A great term and the best situation is “internal competition” where even the better players have to work hard and continually improve to keep their spots or earn one on the team. Theo brought up a great point about Boqvist, one advantage both Mitchell and Beaudin appear to have over Boqvist is they demonstrate and play with far more confidence.

If he signs a four year deal, he'll be 32 when it ends. I don't think age is that much of a concern. The concern is when the front office feels like they can make a playoff run. If it is the next few years, the guy looks like a solid piece to me. If they see a longer time frame, they may trade him for Kelley lottery tickets. They may also trade him if they think they have enough kids without him (and assuming Dach and Toews return).
- mohel

I would not Janmark for 4 years and the figure of around 4M put out there is a definite no for me. Beware the contract year.

That being said he has played very well and I hope it makes him really attractive for a PO team. if they got a 2nd for him, I would be over the moon. It s exactly why they signed him. Flip him.

He wants a 2 year deal for a small bump? Then bring him back. I knew he would have some defensive play but his offense has been surprising.

A great term and the best situation is “internal competition” where even the better players have to work hard and continually improve to keep their spots or earn one on the team. Theo brought up a great point about Boqvist, one advantage both Mitchell and Beaudin appear to have over Boqvist is they demonstrate and play with far more confidence.
- paulr

Boqvist was just starting to play with some confidence in his last game before COVID.

I am hoping Mitchell and Beaudin spur him to just play his game.

I am okay that he was really trying to get his defensive assignments down to start. He wants to be good. His reactions when he made bad play tells me he has a high GAF meter.

A great term and the best situation is “internal competition” where even the better players have to work hard and continually improve to keep their spots or earn one on the team. Theo brought up a great point about Boqvist, one advantage both Mitchell and Beaudin appear to have over Boqvist is they demonstrate and play with far more confidence.
- paulr

True dat. Maybe this PP thing is designed to make him more comfortable being aggressive.

Bolland had very good offensive numbers in junior playing on one of the top junior teams from one of the best junior hockey coaching staffs. He came to the NHL and was able to change his game as a primarily offensive player to a shutdown guy with very strong offensive potential.

Hagel had good offensive numbers in junior playing on one of the top junior teams from one of the best junior hockey coaching staffs. Is he willing to change his game to be a shutdown guy with offensive upside, or does he have enough potential to be a top six forward?
- paulr

I don't think he is top 6 but middle 6 is there. I think he has already been willing to accept a defensive role. He just likes to play defense in the O-zone more. I am okay with that.

He and Kampf are pretty good at playing on the other end of the ice as their defensive strategy.

True dat. Maybe this PP thing is designed to make him more comfortable being aggressive.
- mohel

Could be that and that 1st unit PP worked really well with Shaw playing the bumper role. It give Kane more options from the half board.

Boqvist has vg wrist shot, too. Better than Shaw's. Shaw is better at screening and tips but Strome has been popping out into that position of late.

Strome needs to do something to be useful in a spot other than below the goal line

Who knows, maybe this new idea by Colliton will work but not a fan of planting Boqvist in any area of the ice where he will be more stationary or at least confined to a small patch.

Boqvist is at his best when he can be fluid using his dynamic skating, vision, and release. IMO, leave him at the point where he has latitude to roam and create.
- Theo Fox

Boqvist can move. He needs to. It creates a lane to Dinky or he can snap off his wrister and one timer. He and Shaw have different types of good hands. Shaw has the tips and Boqvist has a better feel for a quick release.

Could be that and that 1st unit PP worked really well with Shaw playing the bumper role. It give Kane more options from the half board.

Boqvist has vg wrist shot, too. Better than Shaw's. Shaw is better at screening and tips but Strome has been popping out into that position of late.

Strome needs to do something to be useful in a spot other than below the goal line
- Elbows15

Maybe he can head butt a couple in like Shaw did. That kid's been a fun Hawk over the years.

I would not Janmark for 4 years and the figure of around 4M put out there is a definite no for me. Beware the contract year.

That being said he has played very well and I hope it makes him really attractive for a PO team. if they got a 2nd for him, I would be over the moon. It s exactly why they signed him. Flip him.

He wants a 2 year deal for a small bump? Then bring him back. I knew he would have some defensive play but his offense has been surprising.
- Elbows15

I suspect somebody pays him top six money, the Hawks would see him as a 3rd line/special teams guy, and they won't have a match. In that case, he will be gone soon.

Completely agree he was signed to flip. But if the timetable has sped up, and he's amenable to the right deal, maybe he stays.

Maybe he can head butt a couple in like Shaw did. That kid's been a fun Hawk over the years.
- mohel

I really hope the Hawks just tell Shaw its time to hang them up. He has nothing to prove to anyone. He has 2 small kids now and he has to think of his future health. He is such a competitor it won't be easy for him but he sure seems to be one of the good guys and i cringe every time he gets froggy.

I suspect somebody pays him top six money, the Hawks would see him as a 3rd line/special teams guy, and they won't have a match. In that case, he will be gone soon.

Completely agree he was signed to flip. But if the timetable has sped up, and he's amenable to the right deal, maybe he stays.
- mohel

hmm. not sure about Top 6 money. Teams are pretty cap strapped. Also need to see where he ends up for the season.

Stay the course. I am not sure the timeline has sped up. Hawks draft strategy changed after the 17 season and they really went after more D-men. Which is the smart move to me. D-men take longer to develop and forwards are far easier to find.

I really hope the Hawks just tell Shaw its time to hang them up. He has nothing to prove to anyone. He has 2 small kids now and he has to think of his future health. He is such a competitor it won't be easy for him but he sure seems to be one of the good guys and i cringe every time he gets froggy.
- Elbows15

Not sure a team can do that, unless you mean the team continues to pay his salary? But I do agree, except for the season and a half of salary there’s no reason for Shaw to play anymore.

Not sure a team can do that, unless you mean the team continues to pay his salary? But I do agree, except for the season and a half of salary there’s no reason for Shaw to play anymore.
- paulr

Tough spot for the team. If the Doc clears him and the player wants to play, they're stuck. Unless they cut him and pay him. I guess they could buy him out after the season (if he's cleared).

If he's cleared by Doctors, how do we tell him not to play?

That said, I hope they find a way to pay him the rest of his deal without him playing again.

Not sure a team can do that, unless you mean the team continues to pay his salary? But I do agree, except for the season and a half of salary there’s no reason for Shaw to play anymore.
- paulr

Yeah, meant he can end his career on LTIR. He's earned it.

Tough spot for the team. If the Doc clears him and the player wants to play, they're stuck. Unless they cut him and pay him. I guess they could buy him out after the season (if he's cleared).

If he's cleared by Doctors, how do we tell him not to play?

That said, I hope they find a way to pay him the rest of his deal without him playing again.
- mohel

They can put him on LTIR. With his number of known concussions and recovery times on them, I wouldn't want to be the Doc that clears him.

I really don't want to see him play anymore as much as I am a fan of his. I really don't think LTIR would too difficult to get an okay from the league either.