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- Glak18

something about the Flyers with COVID being Chinese

Considering the efforts being made to CONTROL the viral spread in the NHL, the application of strict protocols and the detailed outcomes, this is important information for the larger community.
What works and doesn't work can be of great usefulness IF it can be applied to the populace at large.
So, being the kibitzer I am, has anyone started reaching out to the Folks In Charge to relay these findings? Could be a PR bonanza and worthwhile as countermeasures.
Since I am not linked to anyone of 'importance', anyone who is may want to mention this idea.

LOL

Is pretty clear to everyone on here you like to debate on almost every topic on a daily basis and that's fine. You have the right to your opinion as does everyone and you seem like an intelligent person who often becomes argumentative.

What is your goal by mentioning the devastating impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on everyone (although you do not know or use the proper name) in relation to the initial goal of informing people they misuse the proper scientific term of the virus / disease and it has consequences ?

When an Asian American teen in L.A not even of Chinese descent is assaulted or when a young Asian woman in her 20's living in NYC is beaten and sent to the emergency, comments like the ones you made are problematic and inappropriate. It's how it causes people to think and act based on what is being perpetuated by individuals.

I'm Canadian and I have a 7 year old son (also a Flyers fan). My girlfriend's is Asian-Canadian, her parents immigrated to Canada from Laos. As a dad, I would not tolerate in any shape or form if ever my son was ever subject to racial slurs or bullying based on racism, xenophobia that's been aimed at the Asian community during the COVID-19 crisis.


Does Login or yourself know the ''Spanish flu'' the worst and deadliest pandemic in history that killed 50 million people did NOT originate from Spain? Many people today are still unaware it's actually the 1918 influenza pandemic and since Spain was neutral during World War I, the Spanish press free of news censorship unlike other countries were able to report on it. Hence the name.... This lead to create the spread of the deadliest pandemic exacerbated by a combination of censorship, denial and debate over countries about where it originated. By the way do you know where the first cases ever were reported/documented ???
In the U.S!
I should clarify that there is no scientific consensus regarding where the virus originated.

Swine Flu as it was initially called, now renamed H1N1 had a devastating impact on the economy for farmers. No link between pigs and H1N1. Similarities between a virus common in pigs and H1N1 was the reason for the initial name.

Since it's Black History Month lets use this as an example: Do you describe Black people as African American, use simply Black or do you still use the term ''Negro''?


Viruses aren't named after places anymore. That is a fact. Guidelines are in place since 2015. I'm all for science and tracing the origin of serious global issues in the goal to solve them and insure everyone's safety.

Just because certain terms have been used in the past doesn't make it appropriate now. We all know or should know that language evolves.

You are misinformed and this isn't even for debate. You are clearly wrong and don't know the facts. The information is available. Looks to me like cognitive dissonance.

Please do your research MJL. Even intelligent people as yourself can make asinine statements.
- Chris48

No I'm clearly right. Maybe not to a liberal like you. I'm completely informed on who is to blame for the pandemic and the effect it has had on people. The term I used is also completely appropriate. Liberal guidelines put in place don't change who is to blame. The ignorance of you and your statement telling me to please do my research as if I did not know the actual technical name of the virus is astounding. Only an idiot blames people for the misguided criminal activity of others due to assigning blame for the virus on China.I find much of what you wrote here to be asinine and unintelligent, though you may be intelligent.

Can be spread on the ice or the bench, too. It's not fail-safe.
- bmeltzer

They are breathing hard from exertion, and sitting huddled together mask-less on the bench, and in the dressing room they have to be mask-less at some point. Their very profession is dangerous for such situations and virtually impossible to be guaranteed infection free.

Fletcher has to be kidding if he is truly wondering.

Truth be told, I generally don’t agree with anything you post on this board, and most times I’m downright bitter and annoyed you even bother to come on here at all. That said, I completely concur with this and your previous post. Well said.
- BroadSTmayhem

Are you referring to his avatar? He lauded Marner throughout the year before Marner was drafted. Its a joke, referring to that time.

I often disagree with him too, but to me he appears to be one of the only posters here who actually has some analytical reasoning behind what he says. Many years ago, he compared a goalie (I forget who) to Felix the Cat in how far back in his net he stayed. 2-3 years ago, he posted a heat map of Hagg to show his immobility. When we were arguing about whether to bring in Laine, he said that PL plays the entire game as though it were a power play (coasting and blasting).

Further, he is a gentleman. Too much so, imo, but I would not want the world to be made up of guys only like me.

Sorry to butt in. Not taking sides. I respect you both. I remember you corrected me in pointing out that the correct word is retardate not retard. Just saying what I see.

In our group one of the guys that I thought put the most emphasis on the mask and washing his hands and doing all the right things, social distancing, we have no idea how he got covid but he still got covid.


Is it possible that such “precautions” make no difference?
- Djapana

Condoms have a 2% failure rate.

Is it perhaps possible that wearing condoms make no difference? That storks are just gonna do what they are gonna do?

Im reading more and more than they don't.
- MBFlyerfan

Where by "more and more" you mean the billions of people who live in affected areas where infection rates have dropped to almost zero right after implementing very strict safety protocols? Such as Taiwan, China, New Zealand, etc. etc?

And by "reading" you mean an oracular exposition stemming from your anal orifice?

This Flu originated in Wuhan, China, so it's natural that people call it that.
- Thors-Hammer

Damn Chinese virus.
- login

People got butt hurt only because of certain political figure and certain country.
because no one contested British or South African variants of the same virus. No one yet has called Ebola or West Nile viruses racist
- missingmike

Just stop. Its from China, end of story. We will call it what we wish, not because you project your own racism on to others motives, but because that is what it is. Im so tired of people like you trying to rewrite history because it hurts your feelings.
- MBFlyerfan

My dear geniuses

Here is the problem with the analogies you provide (Ebola, West Nile etc. etc.) and Covid-19.

In all of those cases: the virus did not already have a well-established name by the time a 2nd name was attempted. Those names (Ebola, West Nile Etc) were the first names of common usage.

By the time Trump started calling it China/Wuhan flu, the virus had not just been officially named as something else many weeks earlier, that name (Covid/Coronovirus) had already become part of widespread common usage and been used hundreds of millions of times.

In other words, it's not the issue of naming the virus anything you like. If the name had originally been China virus, your arguments would have some validity.

It's the issue of RENAMING an already names virus anything you like. Instead, It is like me saying: I am going to refer to Hockeybuzz as BuzzHockey. Damn it. I can call it whatever I like.

When an Asian American teen in L.A not even of Chinese descent is assaulted or when a young Asian woman in her 20's living in NYC is beaten and sent to the emergency, comments like the ones you made are problematic and inappropriate. It's how it causes people to think and act based on what is being perpetuated by individuals.


- Chris48

The last 30 years have been tough for the community that is Trump's most passionate base.

Economically, there has been outsourcing of both manufacturing and services.
Professionally, there has been a tremendous shift from "traditional" jobs to professions like consulting, computers etc. In other words, those that require abstract thinking skills.
Demographically, the white fraction of the population has plummeted.
Culturally, there has been ever more increasing presence of gays, minorities, women in high professions, woke culture etc. etc.

They are on the outside on all of these trends. The pain of feeling marginalized and not being heard is real no matter whose fault it is.

But real pain can often lead to fake solutions, as throughout history. Trump's use of "China virus" was part of the same general strategy that tells his base that it is someone else's fault. That bad guys are putting them down and are the reason for their distress. At the time he did it, there was already a widespread pattern of violence against Asians throughout the West because of this and he knew it.

It like Ed Snider saying the reason for our drought is that because Bettman rigs things against us, and referees are biased and so on, at a time when a section of Flyers fans are already throwing things at referees. Not only is it the wrong explanation, it is also the wrong thing to do as a laeder.

Where by "more and more" you mean the billions of people who live in affected areas where infection rates have dropped to almost zero right after implementing very strict safety protocols? Such as Taiwan, China, New Zealand, etc. etc?

And by "reading" you mean an oracular exposition stemming from your anal orifice?
- PT21

STFU and go away Sheldon

No I'm clearly right. Maybe not to a liberal like you. I'm completely informed on who is to blame for the pandemic and the effect it has had on people. The term I used is also completely appropriate. Liberal guidelines put in place don't change who is to blame. The ignorance of you and your statement telling me to please do my research as if I did not know the actual technical name of the virus is astounding. I find much of what you wrote here to be asinine, though you may be intelligent.
- MJL

I think out of all the comments I read so far on this topic the most asinine, not to mention offensive, thing said was the fact he mentioned his wife was of Asian descent to strengthen his argument.

That was almost as cringe as someone talking about racial issues then mentioning their best friend/significant other is black. Seriously if that is something that pops in ones head during a discussion and seems relative in anyway then they have some stuff to figure out.

It's the issue of RENAMING an already names virus anything you like. Instead, It is like me saying: I am going to refer to Hockeybuzz as BuzzHockey. Damn it. I can call it whatever I like.
- PT21

You know what, you can call hockeybuzz anything you like. Oh wait a minute, I forgot, you're a sheep and can only call it what you're told to call it.

I believe it is well documents that Chinese communist Party delayed notifying the rest of the world about the concern over the virus. I hold them accountable for This failure and making the spread worse. Not the Chinese people but their government.
- Hextall271

I know no one reasonable who would disagree with that statement. Certainly not me.

But I also know no one reasonable who would think that calling it the China virus does anything to address the many real problems with China.

As in virtually everything he has done in his life, Trump failed. If anyone goes to an interview to any job of consequence and uses the term "China virus", he will be marked as a moron, and that will be the end of his candidacy. No one across the world calls it China virus except such guys.

And as for the China/Chinese gubmint, they have never been stronger than they are now, 4 years after Trump. Their trade surplus is up, their economy is booming, their stock market is booming, their government is stronger than before, and even their international prestige is booming thanks to how they managed to control Covid.

folks, this is a hockey blog, we are all supposedly adults, lets keep the political and social comments off the site and keep it to hockey related issues, there are plenty of online sites to express all your feelings one way or the other. time to move on, it should only be about hockey here, thank you, rant ended
- monty burns

I disagree. An outdoor game is affected by the weather. Should we not mention a foot of snow on the ice?
Also, it's a false equivalency to say you have a right to your opinion.
IMO, you don't. (Contrary is me.) Opinions can be formed around flimsy, non-substantial structures like feelings, beliefs and cultural baggage. If you can't express your opinion in reliable (as possible) factual underpinnings, eat it. That's YOUR dinner. It's not shareable to someone like my agnostic self, regardless of the condiments.
Where's the beef?
Incidentally, this makes statistics a driving force to me. It does lead you to uncomfortable 'truths', that can be completely Non-PC, left or right, and rarely to harmony with the 'believers'. This takes balls (PC? Not me!) and what the SJWs would call a complete lack of Emotional Intelligence (A quality only good for self-serving politicians and influencers like religious and SJW leaders.). If you want to make genuine progress you must be unflinching but compassionate (if you want to live), while you subtlety beat those smucks into submission.
They will resist but even the Popes had to admit to stupid concerning Galileo.

STFU and go away Sheldon
- MBFlyerfan

I can't even think of an apt description for the level of stupidity for someone who actually believes the numbers for the infection rate reported in China are accurate.

STFU and go away Sheldon
- MBFlyerfan

Oh look.

The man who perpetually complains of excessive sensitivity and not being able call a spade a spade is whining piteously about being correctly labelled as an embarrassing moron.

Would you like a safe space from me, darling? Staying on BuzzHockey is not it, I am afraid.

I know no one reasonable who would disagree with that statement. Certainly not me.

But I also know no one reasonable who would think that calling it the China virus does anything to address the many real problems with China.


- PT21

Illogical. Your mistake is think the purpose of calling it the China virus is to address the many real problems with China. It's not. It's simply to put the blame where the blame belongs.

As in virtually everything he has done in his life, Trump failed. If anyone goes to an interview to any job of consequence and uses the term "China virus", he will be marked as a moron, and that will be the end of his candidacy. No one across the world calls it China virus except such guys.


- PT21

Your statement that Trump has failed in virtually everything he has done in his life is not the statement of an intelligent person.
Millions of intelligent well employed, well paid people call it the China virus. If the job interviewer agrees with placing the blame on China, then it will be well received.

And as for the China/Chinese gubmint, they have never been stronger than they are now, 4 years after Trump. Their trade surplus is up, their economy is booming, their stock market is booming, their government is stronger than before, and even their international prestige is booming thanks to how they managed to control Covid.
- PT21

Anyone stating that the international prestige of China is booming thanks to how they manage Covid, when they are responsible for the virus spreading around the world, is a moron.

I think out of all the comments I read so far on this topic the most asinine, not to mention offensive, thing said was the fact he mentioned his wife was of Asian descent to strengthen his argument.

That was almost as cringe as someone talking about racial issues then mentioning their best friend/significant other is black. Seriously if that is something that pops in ones head during a discussion and seems relative in anyway then they have some stuff to figure out.
- Glak18

But why?

When racial issues are discussed, SchennBros always mentions he is black. It is to say that he has a personal insight into the situation, and the same principle applies.

In the early weeks of the Covid-19 crisis, There was widespread discrimination against people of Asian descent. Many were beaten up.

There was a clear ethnic/racial issue associated with the virus at that stage. I don't see why saying he has a personal stake in the situation makes him asinine.

Oh look.

The man who perpetually complains of excessive sensitivity and not being able call a spade a spade is whining piteously about being correctly labelled as an embarrassing moron.

Would you like a safe space from me, darling? Staying on BuzzHockey is not it, I am afraid.


- PT21

He doesn't need a safe space from you. He has put you in your place multiple times and soon you will cower and hide from him like you do me.

Good question. Will anyone else come off the list by tomorrow? I don’t know. Sanhiem was 6 days. I think. We may get one or two back tomorrow....
- Peter Richards

Av says the practice today is everyone else who will be eligible to play. It sounds like g braun jake lindblom tk were all positive tests. The lineup I stated was one the beat writer accounting of all available players. Morin friedman Prosser were the only names eligible I didn't include. I was hoping they'd throw wisdom a bone I love that kid

But why?

When racial issues are discussed, SchennBros always mentions he is black. It is to say that he has a personal insight into the situation, and the same principle applies.

In the early weeks of the Covid-19 crisis, There was widespread discrimination against people of Asian descent. Many were beaten up.

There was a clear ethnic/racial issue associated with the virus at that stage. I don't see why saying he has a personal stake in the situation makes him asinine.
- PT21

I'll explain it to you even though you claim you are a scholar. It's insinuating your opinion is superior due to that personal stake.

True. When surrounded by negativity, hate and fear and uncertainty of the truth, my MO is to come out swinging and often not landing a single punch. Over time, I learned that it isn’t so big of a deal not landing anything, it is the fact that I left the corner that is important.

Have a good day Flyer fans!
- NC Flyers Fan

In your case, would that be swinging haymakers?

(in HockeyBuzz)

- Bendecko

Are you also doomed if you occasionally visit and get sucked in?

Wait, I don't want to know the answer to that question.

I know no one reasonable who would disagree with that statement. Certainly not me.

But I also know no one reasonable who would think that calling it the China virus does anything to address the many real problems with China.

As in virtually everything he has done in his life, Trump failed. If anyone goes to an interview to any job of consequence and uses the term "China virus", he will be marked as a moron, and that will be the end of his candidacy. No one across the world calls it China virus except such guys.

And as for the China/Chinese gubmint, they have never been stronger than they are now, 4 years after Trump. Their trade surplus is up, their economy is booming, their stock market is booming, their government is stronger than before, and even their international prestige is booming thanks to how they managed to control Covid.
- PT21

Amazing how that happened once they started rounding up the Uigjurs into concentration camps