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Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:22 PM ET
Another Bettman Outdoor classic miracle!!

Just saw the update poor ice conditions due to the Sun... one has to wonder when bad conditions on the outdoor joke games will cost a player their career or a big time long term injury. At least indoors they can maintain great ice quality for the most part as per NHL standards.

- LordHumungous

Game postponed until 9pm Pacific time.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:23 PM ET
Bet you that wouldn’t happen if the NHL adopted non-guaranteed base salaries similar to what the NFL has where injury money and signing bonuses are guaranteed, but base salary is not.
- bloatedmosquito


Get rid of the salary cap, and get rid of guaranteed contracts. Then they could have paid Lui a $36m signing bonus his first season and realized it was a huge waste, and cut him loose.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:25 PM ET
Game postponed until 9pm Pacific time.
- Pacificgem


Hope they installed lights...
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:27 PM ET
Get rid of the salary cap, and get rid of guaranteed contracts. Then they could have paid Lui a $36m signing bonus his first season and realized it was a huge waste, and cut him loose.
- 1970vintage

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:27 PM ET
Hope they installed lights...
- 1970vintage

Bettman heading to Walmart ASAP
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:29 PM ET
Hope they installed lights...
- 1970vintage


They did

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 5:29 PM ET
NHLPA would never go for it, but ya, something like that or restructuring contracts would change the landscape.

Then again it would just give GMs another out from signing terrible contracts, so who knows?

- NewYorkNuck


I know but this whole mail-it-in attitude while making millions is BS. The more I read about NFL contract structure the more I like it.

People used to say that players get paid because of the risks. Very true, but that’s changing with focus on limiting concussions, training methods, and the shifting to a more speed and skill based game. Just looking at the average age of players and the amount of guys playing well into their 30s and 40s now. Pretty impressive.

If anyone’s interested in weird hockey stats you should have a look here.

https://www.quanthockey.com/

It’s excellent.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
NHL doesn't have that kind of money.

- manvanfan


What do you mean? It’s relative. The average NHL salary for a player has been on a steady increase over the years and has now climbed to about $3 million USD per year. Salaries in the NHL range from a low of $700,000 to a high of $12.5 million/year.

A portion of a players contract would be considered ‘base’ and the rest would be split into categories like injury payment, signing bonus, etc. All guaranteed except for the base salary.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:38 PM ET
Nowadays your toughness has to come from your better top six players, not fighting toughness, but pushback toughness. You can’t take liberties with guys like MacKinnon and Crosby, they’ll punch you right back and or drop the gloves in rare circumstances.

Boston doesn’t have a “tough guy”, but they have pack mentality, St. Louis doesn’t have a “tough guy”, but they have pack mentality, Colorado doesn’t have a “tough guy”, but they have pack mentality....the Canucks need more dogs and less cats.

- Pacificgem

So we are complaining the Canucks don't have toughness because they don't have a pack mentality. Would you like to go watch the pile up at the end of the game yesterday?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:39 PM ET
Get rid of the salary cap, and get rid of guaranteed contracts. Then they could have paid Lui a $36m signing bonus his first season and realized it was a huge waste, and cut him loose.
- 1970vintage

Half the teams would fold after a few years.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:42 PM ET
Half the teams would fold after a few years.
- manvanfan


Probably for the best.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:45 PM ET
So we are complaining the Canucks don't have toughness because they don't have a pack mentality. Would you like to go watch the pile up at the end of the game yesterday?
- manvanfan

Jumping into a scrum and grabbing someone around the neck isn’t toughness, dropping your gloves even if you’re one of the teams top five scorers and punching Fobert in the face is.
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
Probably for the best.
- 1970vintage

It’d force them to move teams to better locations or just fold them, both should actually be done.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:47 PM ET
Jumping into a scrum and grabbing someone around the neck isn’t toughness, dropping your gloves even if you’re one of the teams top five scorers and punching Fobert in the face is.
- Pacificgem

one of our best players helps the team a bunch on IR with a broken hand or getting his face punched in and has a concussion.

Better stop drafting good players. Less Petey's More Podkolzin.
canucksfan1944
Joined: 12.13.2016

Feb 20 @ 5:48 PM ET
Ya I'm not expecting much. Reminds me a bit of Gudbranson talkinjg the big tough talk when he fought that Leafs players can't even remember his name lol

I'm expecting at one point this club will toughen up but at the same time not holding my breath.

I get that Zack isn't the 'enforcer' but someone with a bit of that midset would help.

Rousell just doesn't give a sh!t anymore like JV.

Package 'em up lol

- LordHumungous


Rousell + JV + 3rd for debrusk 😍
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:49 PM ET
Half the teams would fold after a few years.
- manvanfan


NHL or owners have to get their crap together. When you see Henrique in year two of a five year 5.8 mil deal being sent on waivers to clear cap , then there is a issue. A bigger problem is only 5 teams have the cap space to claim a 26 goal scorer of last year.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:50 PM ET
Rousell + JV + 3rd for debrusk 😍
- canucksfan1944

I'd personally kill Benning myself
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 5:50 PM ET
one of our best players helps the team a bunch on IR with a broken hand or getting his face punched in and has a concussion.

Better stop drafting good players. Less Petey's More Podkolzin.

- manvanfan

More Canadian less Swedish
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:52 PM ET
Jumping into a scrum and grabbing someone around the neck isn’t toughness, dropping your gloves even if you’re one of the teams top five scorers and punching Fobert in the face is.
- Pacificgem

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 5:53 PM ET
Jumping into a scrum and grabbing someone around the neck isn’t toughness, dropping your gloves even if you’re one of the teams top five scorers and punching Fobert in the face is.
- Pacificgem


Like this?

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Feb 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
Like this?


- bloatedmosquito


Ahh, the Achilles (Brad Pitt).
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Feb 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
NHL or owners have to get their crap together. When you see Henrique in year two of a five year 5.8 mil deal being sent on waivers to clear cap , then there is a issue. A bigger problem is only 5 teams have the cap space to claim a 26 goal scorer of last year.
- VANTEL

Really what are they supposed to do? The players are getting their portion that they earn.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Feb 20 @ 5:55 PM ET
Like this?


- bloatedmosquito

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Swedish4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 6:02 PM ET
Like this?

- bloatedmosquito

Less of this

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Feb 20 @ 6:04 PM ET
Ahh, the Achilles (Brad Pitt).
- 1970vintage


Yes! But less sexy.

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