Should have been in last game to ride that high from the CGY win. Green really fuc*ked up there.

We win tonight.
- LordHumungous

Hard to say the coach fuked up the call when the team was down 1-0 going into the last couple of minutes.

He fuked up a lot of other things but I won't give you that one

He's been a pretty consistent 40 point player his entire career, including last year where he had 26 goals. Having him for 3 years at 3.8 to be the vet for the third line center isn't bad. You're freeing up over 2 mil and addressing a need they'll need moving forward.

Plus, you're moving out LE's money that's just sitting on the taxi squad for a player who will actually provide value in the lineup. Send Beagle down or trade him, and you've revamped the bottom 6 in one off-season.

And the add to it isn't big: a 3rd rounder or someone like Rafferty.

I'm not saying this is ideal/what I'd want, just an opportunity if Henrique can rebound with whatever is happening this season.
- NewYorkNuck

A constant 40 point player that is on pace in a normal season to score 20 points? The guy has less points than Jay Beagle does. There's no revamping adding another 31 year old to your bottom 6.

LE buyout next season will cost Van 4M and 1M the season after.

Unless the Ducks are adding this years first to any trade, I really don't think anyone is taking him. Nobody wanted Tyler Johnson unless it came with a first, do you think anyone is going to take a worse contract for a worse player? It sure doesn't seem that way.

Should have been in last game to ride that high from the CGY win. Green really fuc*ked up there.

We win tonight.
- LordHumungous

Demko let in 1 goal last game.

A constant 40 point player that is on pace in a normal season to score 20 points? The guy has less points than Jay Beagle does. There's no revamping adding another 31 year old to your bottom 6.

LE buyout next season will cost Van 4M and 1M the season after.

Unless the Ducks are adding this years first to any trade, I really don't think anyone is taking him. Nobody wanted Tyler Johnson unless it came with a first, do you think anyone is going to take a worse contract for a worse player? It sure doesn't seem that way.
- manvanfan

Just send LE to the farm next year . No additional years. Podkolzin in Loui out saves 200 000

Just send LE to the farm next year . No additional years. Podkolzin in Loui out saves 200 000
- VANTEL

Canucks might need that extra million.

6-2 Jets.

6-2 Jets.
- Reubenkincade

Let the tank begin

Let the tank begin
- manvanfan

What else can you do?
3 of the teams 5 best players, Miller Pouty and Hughes, are having terrible seasons, so might as well try get Powers or Johnson.

What else can you do?
3 of the teams 5 best players, Miller Pouty and Hughes, are having terrible seasons, so might as well try get Powers or Johnson.
- Reubenkincade

Half the team is on pace to have some of their worst seasons in years. After last year, most had their best seasons ever.

I think there is lots of players the Canucks could use in this draft. A really good defensemen with size and that can skate would help. Although I doubt any will help the Canucks immediately. If there is even a draft. There hasn't been too many players in the past few drafts that have come in after being drafted and made a difference.

Let the tank begin
- manvanfan

Benning can't even do a tank properly.

A constant 40 point player that is on pace in a normal season to score 20 points? The guy has less points than Jay Beagle does. There's no revamping adding another 31 year old to your bottom 6.

LE buyout next season will cost Van 4M and 1M the season after.

Unless the Ducks are adding this years first to any trade, I really don't think anyone is taking him. Nobody wanted Tyler Johnson unless it came with a first, do you think anyone is going to take a worse contract for a worse player? It sure doesn't seem that way.
- manvanfan

Quinn Hughes is on pace to be -52 and Austin Matthews is on pace to score 82 goals in a regular season. Funny how projections work.

So buying out LE costs 4 mil next season, plus replacing Sutter costs what, 2-3 mil? Unless they're plugging in a rookie and moving Beagle up to 3C.

I'm not advocating for the guy. Someone else brought it up trading for LE, and I put my 2 cents in on what I thought a trade would look like. You save money and fill a hole the Canucks will have at center next year.

Benning can't even do a tank properly.
- A_SteamingLombardi

He’s got the unintentional tank down to a science.

Quinn Hughes is on pace to be -52 and Austin Matthews is on pace to score 82 goals in a regular season. Funny how projections work.

So buying out LE costs 4 mil next season, plus replacing Sutter costs what, 2-3 mil? Unless they're plugging in a rookie and moving Beagle up to 3C.

I'm not advocating for the guy. Someone else brought it up trading for LE, and I put my 2 cents in on what I thought a trade would look like. You save money and fill a hole the Canucks will have at center next year.
- NewYorkNuck

That's fine. I gave you my 2 cents on why I wouldn't.

He’s got the unintentional tank down to a science.
- Pacificgem

Might not be any real high end forwards in this draft to the tune of super elite Matthew's types but if you are drafting top 10 in this draft, you could be looking at 3-4 good 2nd line centres. Been watching lots of Cole Sillinger highlights lately. I like.

Demko let in 1 goal last game.
- manvanfan

Don't matter..still wasn't the right call...

Hard to say the coach fuked up the call when the team was down 1-0 going into the last couple of minutes.

He fuked up a lot of other things but I won't give you that one

- VANTEL

Holtby played excellent vs Calgary and has finally applied some of Clarkes teaching in that game. Green just should have rode that high is all. Demko still played good.

Don't matter..still wasn't the right call...
- LordHumungous

TG doesn't often make the right call.

I do feel bad for the guy. His situation just isn't good.

Looking at the players he had in Utica over his 4 years though, Really only Demko and Markstrom have come into the NHL and done well.

Virtanen is a train wreck. Baertschi back in the minors, Vey in Russia. In his defence, he was there for the years of Gillis drafting for most of it.

Cull has got Zac Mac, Chatfield, Brisebois.

Jasek has made some real steady improvements under Cull, same with Lind.

I'm not saying Cull is a better NHL coach than TG but it is more about individual improvement in the AHL for players to which Cull has done a better job of getting the players closer to the NHL.

Green in his 4th year, you don't see the team playing as a 5 man unit out there very often

Holtby played excellent vs Calgary and has finally applied some of Clarkes teaching in that game. Green just should have rode that high is all. Demko still played good.
- LordHumungous

I said at the beginning of the year this is a screwed up year give the young guys playing time. Demko will be a lot better playing 30-35 games over 20 .

TG doesn't often make the right call.

I do feel bad for the guy. His situation just isn't good.

Looking at the players he had in Utica over his 4 years though, Really only Demko and Markstrom have come into the NHL and done well.

Virtanen is a train wreck. Baertschi back in the minors, Vey in Russia. In his defence, he was there for the years of Gillis drafting for most of it.

Cull has got Zac Mac, Chatfield, Brisebois.

Jasek has made some real steady improvements under Cull, same with Lind.

I'm not saying Cull is a better NHL coach than TG but it is more about individual improvement in the AHL for players to which Cull has done a better job of getting the players closer to the NHL.

Green in his 4th year, you don't see the team playing as a 5 man unit out there very often
- manvanfan

I think most decisions by Green are horrible. This team is designed to get most of it's scoring from the point and the perimeter . No one on the D has a hard and accurate enough shot to be going that route. They also have no traffic in front of the net.

They have their best shot used mostly as a passer on the PP again no traffic with the same play over and over . It is very easy to defend and turn quickly into a short handed goal.

I think most decisions by Green are horrible. This team is designed to get most of it's scoring from the point and the perimeter . No one on the D has a hard and accurate enough shot to be going that route. They also have no traffic in front of the net.

They have their best shot used mostly as a passer on the PP again no traffic with the same play over and over . It is very easy to defend and turn quickly into a short handed goal.
- VANTEL

Exactly, the system he wants them to play isn't suited to the team strengths.

Team has some holes and Green has not been able to come up with a system to cover for that fact. The players look like they run on individual skill most nights. Only once in a while, they look like a team for parts of games and it's kind of scary for other teams when they do. Maybe that's part of them just being young and with little experiences with one another.

As of right now, I think some strides were made in the off season in some ways but as you and I said at the start of this year, it should mostly be about next season.

JB was stuck with the cap and just in a year that didn't look like any progress would be made.

Too bad Green is coaching for his job.

Exactly, the system he wants them to play isn't suited to the team strengths.

Team has some holes and Green has not been able to come up with a system to cover for that fact. The players look like they run on individual skill most nights. Only once in a while, they look like a team for parts of games and it's kind of scary for other teams when they do. Maybe that's part of them just being young and with little experiences with one another.

As of right now, I think some strides were made in the off season in some ways but as you and I said at the start of this year, it should mostly be about next season.

JB was stuck with the cap and just in a year that didn't look like any progress would be made.

Too bad Green is coaching for his job.
- manvanfan

This flat cap is hard on teams . 10 out of 31 teams have no cap space at all and are using LTIR. Another 6 teams have less than half a million of cap space.

The number of two years or less contracts reached new records this year . You also look at big name players like Thorton Spezza Perry all taking 1 million or less.

One contract this year was over 8 mil. It is going to be like this for a few more years so you need good drafting and you need smart RFA signings.

Let the tank begin
- manvanfan

2-0 Nucks.

This flat cap is hard on teams . 10 out of 31 teams have no cap space at all and are using LTIR. Another 6 teams have less than half a million of cap space.

The number of two years or less contracts reached new records this year . You also look at big name players like Thorton Spezza Perry all taking 1 million or less.

One contract this year was over 8 mil. It is going to be like this for a few more years so you need good drafting and you need smart RFA signings.
- VANTEL

I'd like if JB went after a few players that could fill roles in Van's bottom 6 for next season.

Eric Robinson (Clb) for Gaudette

Michael Mcleod (Nj) for Virtanen

I think that both NJ and CLB should add a late round pick or maybe swap a pick Van getting the higher pick.

Robinson Mcleod Lind
Zac Mac Beagle Motte

More speed, more size than this season.

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