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Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Feb 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
I watched Mete last night. Don't need analytics to tell me the kid can't defend
- Takemedrunkimhome


bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Feb 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
I watched Mete last night. Don't need analytics to tell me the kid can't defend
- Takemedrunkimhome


bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Feb 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
I watched Mete last night. Don't need analytics to tell me the kid can't defend
- Takemedrunkimhome


bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Feb 22 @ 10:51 AM ET
I watched Mete last night. Don't need analytics to tell me the kid can't defend
- Takemedrunkimhome


bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:52 AM ET
bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
- Hockey Pucker

You can say that again
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Feb 22 @ 10:52 AM ET
sorry...multiple posts for some reason...
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:54 AM ET
sorry...multiple posts for some reason...
- Hockey Pucker

There was lag, I got it also
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 10:54 AM ET
Can you explain to me again why whe should'nt have picked Tkatchuk instead of KK?
- Fredobbface


Because one is a 50 points powerforward who will never be much more than that.

The other is a guy progressing fast into becoming the finnish Getzlaf.

Write it down ffs.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:55 AM ET
Just a tought, Toffoli was doing good at the begining of the year with KK, why not go back to that ?

Also the PP was doing good when petry was with Webber..

- Xizord


Tatar is horrible, and stayed horrible playing with KK. I'd reunite him with Gallagher and Danault and let them figure it out.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 10:55 AM ET
bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
- Hockey Pucker


For the 2nd game in a row, Mete was directly responsible for goals against his team.

That's bad enough for me.
Fredobbface
Calgary Flames
Location: 3 years 5-4-3-3 For a total of 14.5M and a cap hit of 2M, QC
Joined: 07.31.2008

Feb 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
Because one is a 50 points powerforward who will never be much more than that.

The other is a guy progressing fast into becoming the finnish Getzlaf.

Write it down ffs.

- Scabeh

SO FAST
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
bud, you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
- Hockey Pucker



Mete just hasn't been playing well, stop being so douchey about it
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 10:56 AM ET
SO FAST
- Fredobbface


10th youngest player in the NHL.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 22 @ 10:59 AM ET
Because one is a 50 points powerforward who will never be much more than that.

The other is a guy progressing fast into becoming the finnish Getzlaf.

Write it down ffs.

- Scabeh


You keep saying this like he is another Tatar.
Tkachuk is way more than just a 50 pts player and you know it.
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 22 @ 11:00 AM ET
Can you explain to me again why whe should'nt have picked Tkatchuk instead of KK?
- Fredobbface


they needed a centre way more

it was the right pick
Hockey Pucker
Location: Sarasota, FL
Joined: 11.17.2019

Feb 22 @ 11:02 AM ET
Mete just hasn't been playing well, stop being so douchey about it
- Pat1993

again, what analytics or stats are you looking at that would determine that Mete is not good enough to play...as a 6th D man he is more than adequate to hold down the job until someone better, faster, stronger shows up...
deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 22 @ 11:02 AM ET
guys, I think you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:03 AM ET

God damn, who did voodoo on the Rangers?
Now it's Panarin who is out.

https://www.cbssports.com...-taking-leave-of-absence/
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:03 AM ET
guys, I think you have zero facts or stats to base your argument on. Mete is above average and so much better analytically than 50% of the D on the team....your opinion is just that...opinion...baseless....both his O zone (especially) and D zone stats suggest he is better than average...what he is is small and can get pushed around...but he is more effective than Chariot or Kulak and Edmonson...and that's why he isn't being traded.
- deadpoulet


deadpoulet
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Montreal
Joined: 07.01.2008

Feb 22 @ 11:03 AM ET
You can say that again
- Fredobbface


Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:04 AM ET
again, what analytics or stats are you looking at that would determine that Mete is not good enough to play...as a 6th D man he is more than adequate to hold down the job until someone better, faster, stronger shows up...
- Hockey Pucker


you keep referring to these "analytics" but you aren't proving your point either... I'm not saying he's complete garbage, but he needs to be better than this, just like Weber and Chiarot and a lot of other guys do
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

Feb 22 @ 11:07 AM ET
You keep saying this like he is Tatar.
Tkachuk is way more than just a 50 pts player and you know it.

- Not_Yan


His first two seasons, given every prime opportunities possible (on a very bad team I agree), he's produced 44-45 points.

Could he do 55-60 in a good year? Yes. Does he bring something interesting in his game with his physical play, yes. Is he a good player? Definetely.

All I'm saying is that in due time, considering how both players have improved, I really think Kotkaniemi will be the best player between the two.

His ceiling certainly is higher.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: it is funny though. even the people who seem like they might be reasonable join in and bash you., QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

Feb 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
God damn, who did voodoo on the Rangers?
Now it's Panarin who is out.

https://www.cbssports.com...-taking-leave-of-absence/

- Not_Yan



Panarin is taking a leave of absence from NYR in aftermath of political hit piece against him from Russia alleging that he beat up an 18-year-old girl in Russia in 2011
.


iiish
Not_Yan
St Louis Blues
Location: it's an excellent product, easier, quicker, and even better than real mashed potatoes.
Joined: 04.19.2013

Feb 22 @ 11:08 AM ET
His first two seasons, given every prime opportunities possible (on a very bad team I agree), he's produced 43 points.

Could he do 55-60 in a good year? Yes. Does he bring something interesting in his game with his physical play, yes. Is he a good player? Definetely.

All I'm saying is that in due time, considering how both players have improved, I really think Kotkaniemi will be the best player between the two.

His ceiling certainly is higher.

- Scabeh


Time will tell.
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

Feb 22 @ 11:11 AM ET
sorry...multiple posts for some reason...
- Hockey Pucker

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XeQxUZkXbkg

Watch the highlight of Ottawa's 1st goal. Please explain to me with your "stats" how Mete wasn't completely responsible for that goal. Stats are great but if they don't match the eye test they're not giving an accurate depiction of the true story. It's why we watch the games and they play them rather than just doing a simulation based on paper teams. Mete can't defend at an NHL level
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