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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
At full strength the Flyers are the second best team in the division. They are 5-0 against the Pens-Isles-Caps with a +11 goal differential. Only one of those games saw Coots play a full game.
- mickel25

those other teams 100% with their full lineup? I wont be shocked either way if they make or don't make the playoffs.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 24 @ 9:47 AM ET
Disagree. Power that be want major progress imo.
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What kind of comment is this? First off , how in the world would you know what they want? Everyone wants progress, but Fletch is certainly playing with house money. If they missed the playoffs I highly doubt he would be shown the door. Making a hasty decision after a shortened , odd, season would be idiotic.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 24 @ 9:49 AM ET
Yes. As I mentioned, we have games in hand. Take the Bruins games out, and we're actually quite good haha 0-3-2 not going to get it done, and they have to figure out a way to compete obviously or they'll be gone in round two. Habs and Leafs must be laughing at their fortune of being able to avoid playing Tampa and Boston at all this year.. What a windfall.
- Hextall271

True, but Montreal or Toronto will have to play these teams eventually to vie for a cup, so I actually think it hurts them to not face the Bruins or Tampa before then.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 9:50 AM ET
Disagree. Power that be want major progress imo.
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well that is obvious, what they want and what they can do is a completely different story, they will consider Covid, flat cap and expansion just like every other team.
mickel25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Morgantown, PA
Joined: 01.21.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:52 AM ET
those other teams 100% with their full lineup? I wont be shocked either way if they make or don't make the playoffs.
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I am pretty sure the Isles and Pens were full strength when the Flyers played them.

I would be shocked if they miss the playoffs. They are basically down a top 4 D from last year. They have better offensive depth this year compared to last. I don't think Niskanen was the difference of making the playoffs or not.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
True, but Montreal or Toronto will have to play these teams eventually to vie for a cup, so I actually think it hurts them to not face the Bruins or Tampa before then.
- jd250


It might. They'll also theoretically be less beaten up than say the team that gets out of our div as they most likely won't have strong opponents until the second round. If you asked the Leafs who technically didn't make the playoffs last year if they'd take a semi final spot in this scenario but have to play Boston, I think they'd be happy.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 24 @ 9:53 AM ET
What kind of comment is this? First off , how in the world would you know what they want? Everyone wants progress, but Fletch is certainly playing with house money. If they missed the playoffs I highly doubt he would be shown the door. Making a hasty decision after a shortened , odd, season would be idiotic.
- ClaudeFather

What kind of comment is that? It is called an opinion. My opinion is he will have orders to make sure they make the playoffs. Never said or even insinuated he would be fired.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 24 @ 9:56 AM ET
well that is obvious, what they want and what they can do is a completely different story, they will consider Covid, flat cap and expansion just like every other team.
- wcorvette

We shall see. I cant imagine them standing by if they start to falter and management not voicing their opinion.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 24 @ 9:57 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 2/24/21 vs. NYR; RIP Gary Inness
- bmeltzer

The GM seemed to praise Freidman numerous times. Yet he is now being waived. Is there a disconnect between the coach and GM when it comes to Freidman?

I do not think they gave Friedman a long enough look. Could have been a solid bottom pair cheap option. How you cant get a longer look while Hagg continues to suck is beyond me. Only positive is Hagg get the least minutes of the 6. So maybe the coach is somewhat wising up. When Braun comes back Hagg to the bench is the smart move.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 10:00 AM ET
Fletcher does not come across to me as a GM that makes hasty trades out of panic. With that said the games against Boston are concerning because the Flyers will have to most likely go through Boston to come out of the division and have a chance to win the cup. Right now the Flyers are not good enough, but I think they are closer than it may appear. The Flyers have yet to play the Bruins with their full lineup, and I still believe they can play with Boston at least 5 on 5. Where the Flyers are falling down against Boston is they are taking too many penalties and their PK is not good enough. Hart has also not been good against the Bruins.
- jd250


Are you talking about Chuck Fletcher? His biggest trades with the wild were hasty and generally did not improve the team
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 24 @ 10:04 AM ET
True, but Montreal or Toronto will have to play these teams eventually to vie for a cup, so I actually think it hurts them to not face the Bruins or Tampa before then.
- jd250

Toronto is going to fold like a house of cards once they play someone outside their division
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
Toronto is going to fold like a house of cards once they play someone outside their division
- ClaudeFather


Wow.. Julien and Muller fired.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:07 AM ET
I am pretty sure the Isles and Pens were full strength when the Flyers played them.

I would be shocked if they miss the playoffs. They are basically down a top 4 D from last year. They have better offensive depth this year compared to last. I don't think Niskanen was the difference of making the playoffs or not.

- mickel25



no, they haven't played anyone that was full strength. they obviously wouldn't have won otherwise, they stink.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 24 @ 10:12 AM ET
Wow.. Julien and Muller fired.
- Hextall271

Habs fans are rejoicing (more for Julien than Muller).
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 24 @ 10:22 AM ET
Like the move of Patrick to LW. Feel like that will get him off the perimeter and put him closer to net-front, where he's always been the most effective.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:22 AM ET
It would be a disappointment if they dont make the playoffs. I know that means one of the Caps, Pens, or Islanders miss but there is no excuse when fully healthy they shouldn't be one of the top 4 in the East.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Feb 24 @ 10:23 AM ET
Wow.. Julien and Muller fired.
- Hextall271


Seattle?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
Habs fans are rejoicing (more for Julien than Muller).
- Bendecko


on to the next savior... I honestly don't understand how Bergevin has survived this long.
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
Like the move of Patrick to LW. Feel like that will get him off the perimeter and put him closer to net-front, where he's always been the most effective.
- Tomahawk


Worth a try. Last game we had two dmen playing forward, so why not.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 10:25 AM ET
We shall see. I cant imagine them standing by if they start to falter and management not voicing their opinion.
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I think they will make a move but keep in mind over the summer they could make a move and look at what they did. I am on record yesterday saying there is a scenario where I would trade for Ekholm, so them making a move wouldn't surprise me and as long as the price is only a slight overpay I won't be disappointed. If Ekholm is the first piece to making this a win now squad and you will take the next step in the off-season go for it.


I don't want to blow it up to win now, nor has Chuck showed he will but teams like Pitt and the Caps have stayed in contender status and they have been blowing it up on the regualr.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 10:27 AM ET
what happen in MTL, last 10 playing 500 but they got off to a good start, short leash no?
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:30 AM ET
It would be a disappointment if they dont make the playoffs. I know that means one of the Caps, Pens, or Islanders miss but there is no excuse when fully healthy they shouldn't be one of the top 4 in the East.
- Pelle31Forever


100%. Going from a win away from the conference finals to missing the playoffs entirely would be a disappointment. I think they're better than every team in this division besides the Bruins and maybe the Capitals.
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 24 @ 10:34 AM ET
I think they will make a move but keep in mind over the summer they could make a move and look at what they did. I am on record yesterday saying there is a scenario where I would trade for Ekholm, so them making a move wouldn't surprise me and as long as the price is only a slight overpay I won't be disappointed. If Ekholm is the first piece to making this a win now squad and you will take the next step in the off-season go for it.


I don't want to blow it up to win now, nor has Chuck showed he will but teams like Pitt and the Caps have stayed in contender status and they have been blowing it up on the regualr.

- wcorvette

My own opinion is just ride this season out unless there is a deal that is too good to pass up. Then come summer time you go have to 100% imo take that next step to become a legit contender. The thing is will upper management want to wait; yet again?

If someone wants to overpay for the Flyers free agents I would move them as well. Team always want depth on D; braun and hagg I look to move as well.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 24 @ 10:35 AM ET
Like the move of Patrick to LW. Feel like that will get him off the perimeter and put him closer to net-front, where he's always been the most effective.
- Tomahawk

He needs a spark, what he’s been doing has not been working. Get him with some better guys and focus on the offense a little more. Also I’m glad to see Bunnaman get rewarded for his hard work.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 10:35 AM ET
Didn't some posters here want to try to sign Skinner? 9M cap hit with a point in 14 games.
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