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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
Yep. I said that to my dad. The sun was in Rask's eyes for the first 15 minutes. They should've thrown everything at him.
- Scoob


Rask wasn't truly on his game all night, either. Did make two tough saves and the Flyers got some bounces. But he never seemed locked in either. Unfortunately, the Flyers put just 19 shots on net (with three going in).

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 24 @ 2:27 PM ET
Yep. I said that to my dad. The sun was in Rask's eyes for the first 15 minutes. They should've thrown everything at him.
- Scoob

Maybe they tried, after all they only had 8 shots on goal after the first period. How pathetic is that?
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
You touched on one of the biggest problems I think this Flyers group of forwards have; they have very little shoot-first forwards. I believe there are three types of forward mentalities: shoot first, pass first and cycle first. Players like Raffl, Laughton and NAK are cycle first forwards who will cycle for an entire shift expending loads of energy flipping pucks along the boards, back and forth, but rarely ever get a shot on goal. Then there are players like Voracek, Hayes, Giroux, Patrick and JVR that are pass first players, always looking to make that pretty play or set someone else up instead of shooting the puck. Farabee is becoming more of a shoot first player as he gains confidence, but besides him there is really isn't another Flyers forward that thinks this way. This is a real problem for this team to overcome. It seemed obvious to everyone watching that the Flyers had a huge advantage with the sun setting in Rask's face, that is, obvious to everyone except the Flyers players.
- jd250



Maybe they could have just passed it really hard at the net. I would have taken that..
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 24 @ 2:30 PM ET
Rask wasn't truly on his game all night, either. Did make two tough saves and the Flyers got some bounces. But he never seemed locked in either. Unfortunately, the Flyers put just 19 shots on net (with three going in).
- bmeltzer


I think not being able to set foot on the ice until warmups really hurt the goalies, but we couldn't take advantage.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 24 @ 2:36 PM ET
Well. We have a contract opening now at least.
DaveofYork
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: york, PA
Joined: 10.27.2014

Feb 24 @ 2:37 PM ET
Lol Hexy. Watch Friedman become an impactful player now
- arichardson22

He'll win the Norris
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 24 @ 2:39 PM ET
This would not be a question for me. Watch it.
- Scoob


It like walking though a suspicious looking door without knowing what is on the other side for me. Maybe he is a suitable goalie personality, but it is more doubtful that I am a suitable goalie parent.

Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:45 PM ET
Rask wasn't truly on his game all night, either. Did make two tough saves and the Flyers got some bounces. But he never seemed locked in either. Unfortunately, the Flyers put just 19 shots on net (with three going in).
- bmeltzer

I agree - I'm sure the conditions messed with him just as much as they seemed to with Hart.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
It like walking though a suspicious looking door without knowing what is on the other side for me. Maybe he is a suitable goalie personality, but it is more doubtful that I am a suitable goalie parent.
- NC Flyers Fan


lol - only one way to find out - open the door and skate in
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 24 @ 2:51 PM ET
I agree - I'm sure the conditions messed with him just as much as they seemed to with Hart.
- Scoob




What really confuses me is that AV coaching/gameplan style seems to be to shoot as often as possible. They shot a LOT last season.

Im sure its part of his meetings/agendas.

Does he have to start threatening players to shoot more and stop passing up shots because the shooting grass is greener somewhere else?

From what I see, they pass up a hell of a lot of shots.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 24 @ 3:09 PM ET
Maybe they could have just passed it really hard at the net. I would have taken that..
- Hextall271


Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:10 PM ET
What really confuses me is that AV coaching/gameplan style seems to be to shoot as often as possible. They shot a LOT last season.

Im sure its part of his meetings/agendas.

Does he have to start threatening players to shoot more and stop passing up shots because the shooting grass is greener somewhere else?

From what I see, they pass up a hell of a lot of shots.

- MBFlyerfan


I think I heard or read somewhere that their shots per game is down from last year. I may be misremembering though.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 24 @ 3:10 PM ET
Well. We have a contract opening now at least.
- Peter Richards


Bright side
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 24 @ 3:28 PM ET
I think I heard or read somewhere that their shots per game is down from last year. I may be misremembering though.
- Scoob



Last year they finished middle of the pack (16th) with 31.4 spg.

This year they are dead last at 23.3.

And that is more than 3 shots off the next to last team. (Anahiem 26.4)

It is a startling statistic.
Ftown19125
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 09.17.2013

Feb 24 @ 3:29 PM ET
Last year they finished middle of the pack (16th) with 31.4 spg.

This year they are dead last at 23.3.

And that is more than 3 shots off the next to last team. (Anahiem 26.4)

It is a startling statistic.

- MBFlyerfan


Yup. Especially considering they're also awful at limiting shots against.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 24 @ 3:39 PM ET
Maybe they could have just passed it really hard at the net. I would have taken that..
- Hextall271

Brilliant
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Feb 24 @ 3:41 PM ET
Yup. Especially considering they're also awful at limiting shots against.
- Ftown19125

Its funny that early this season when asked how to describe this team, Kevin Hayes responded "A fast team that plays the right way defensively". Hmmm ... I mean, they are not even close to any of this!
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Feb 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
Key is to ensure he has fun. If he loves it he'll stick with it and do well.

My little guy is 2.5 and he loves shooting the puck and ball. Had him on outdoor lake a couple times last week on skates and to my amazement, he was able to stand a bit without falling. I think he likes the chaos of the game ahah

- Hextall271


All of my boys quit playing baseball once they started playing hockey because they said baseball was too boring. And that was when I ran the dang baseball organization. At least it got me out of that gig.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Feb 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Just another guy to score against us every time we play them. Under/Over for goals Friedman gets against us this season? Has to be at least 2...
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Feb 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
Lol Hexy. Watch Friedman become an impactful player now
- arichardson22

They knew Morin would clear so they made Friedman walk the plank. Let's see what Fletch brings in.
login
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.21.2020

Feb 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
They knew Morin would clear so they made Friedman walk the plank. Let's see what Fletch brings in.
- Landsbergfan

Freidman will be waived again within the month.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 4:18 PM ET
Last year they finished middle of the pack (16th) with 31.4 spg.

This year they are dead last at 23.3.

And that is more than 3 shots off the next to last team. (Anahiem 26.4)

It is a startling statistic.

- MBFlyerfan


Thanks for the info. Yes, very startling. You'd think it'd be fairly easy to improve that number.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
All of my boys quit playing baseball once they started playing hockey because they said baseball was too boring. And that was when I ran the dang baseball organization. At least it got me out of that gig.

- Letterkenney


That's what my daughters said about softball when they discovered soccer and lacrosse.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
I think I heard or read somewhere that their shots per game is down from last year. I may be misremembering though.
- Scoob


They were also one of the better teams with shots against I think.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Feb 24 @ 4:53 PM ET
They knew Morin would clear so they made Friedman walk the plank. Let's see what Fletch brings in.
- Landsbergfan

Lol hope you’re right.
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