So, the general feeling here is we should trade Willie for a top 4 D. Which will do what for us precisely? Can't see much on the D end of things we need to repair. Added Brodie, Lehtonen and Bogo in pre season.

And we're certainly not trading him for a goal scorer.
- Leafsmart

or off to Arizona say for goalie and a pick.

travis boyd has been good

vesey scratched tomorrow
- TheMussel

Please be true.
Press box babe for him

travis boyd has been good

vesey scratched tomorrow
- TheMussel

Travis Boyd has been VERY good!! He's a keeper.

Please be true.
Press box babe for him
- dmnted

You know, I don't mind him. He's depth, I guess. At a good price for this year. Will never score probably 15 again. Defensively, is what keeps him in the game. Suspect Keefe will push his buttons a bit, like Engvall, to motivate him.

I just hope that we keep our first rounders for next few years. Need to replenish the pipeline if guys want to leave. No reason in the world for this team to not be a contender every year.

So, the general feeling here is we should trade Willie for a top 4 D. Which will do what for us precisely? Can't see much on the D end of things we need to repair. Added Brodie, Lehtonen and Bogo in pre season.

And we're certainly not trading him for a goal scorer.
- Leafsmart

I don't think that's necessarily what's being said. I think the consideration that is being expressed is that the cap is going to be flat for another year, and the recovery going into 2023 is probably going to be slow as well.

We are up against the cap right now with about 7 regulars making $1.5m or less. At the end of this year, Hyman ($2.25m, probably going to get $4m-ish) is a UFA, and Andersen ($5m, probably due for $5 - $6m) is a UFA. We are also very likely going to lose Holl in the expansion draft. So at some point, we need to come up with money and a replacement top-4 D. Nylander may be the easiest card to play. There may be other options available (Is Sandin ready? Can we get a cheaper goalie to tandem with Campbell effectively? Do we have an appetite to trade Kerfoot and go with Robertson on the top-6 wing instead?).

But moving Nylander is an option that will always remain on the table, because at $7m, he's the most moveable piece that offers the most salary relief, and the least critical (without an NMC) of the top-6 forwards.

So, the general feeling here is we should trade Willie for a top 4 D. Which will do what for us precisely? Can't see much on the D end of things we need to repair. Added Brodie, Lehtonen and Bogo in pre season.

And we're certainly not trading him for a goal scorer.
- Leafsmart

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

I would punch Dubas in the face.

I would punch Dubas in the face.
- Steven_Seagull

Haha. It is a very punchable face.

I would punch Dubas in the face.
- Steven_Seagull

I'll join you.

I would punch Dubas in the face.
- Steven_Seagull

He would destroy you

He watches WWE😳

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

A heck of a deal.... for me to poop on

He would destroy you

He watches WWE😳
- mr.sir

Dubas lays the stats down on the bird.

Yeaaah, really is a bummer that the Athletic is subscription based. There are always phenomenal reads on there... It's my first go to when bored at work, then here. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Unfortunately (probably expectedly), the mindset that Keefe basically admitted to the media that he hates Willie (or at the least was calling him out for being poop) is being pushed by a certain Nylander obsessed poster here.

No one in that room knows willie better than Keefe, he coached him before he was in the NHL. It's insanely stupid to imply that Keefe is hating him to the media and not just saying what everyone already knows, which is that he's good at hockey and there's room to grow in certain facets of his game.
- joel878

I just read that article. In the last 40 years only 4 leafs have had more points than Willy at this point in their careers. Matthews, Marner. Vaive and Damphouse.

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

when you say you fellas you mean the Canucks right!

for me I would need a pick as well

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Pettersson.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

Fixed

I don't think that's necessarily what's being said. I think the consideration that is being expressed is that the cap is going to be flat for another year, and the recovery going into 2023 is probably going to be slow as well.

We are up against the cap right now with about 7 regulars making $1.5m or less. At the end of this year, Hyman ($2.25m, probably going to get $4m-ish) is a UFA, and Andersen ($5m, probably due for $5 - $6m) is a UFA. We are also very likely going to lose Holl in the expansion draft. So at some point, we need to come up with money and a replacement top-4 D. Nylander may be the easiest card to play. There may be other options available (Is Sandin ready? Can we get a cheaper goalie to tandem with Campbell effectively? Do we have an appetite to trade Kerfoot and go with Robertson on the top-6 wing instead?).

But moving Nylander is an option that will always remain on the table, because at $7m, he's the most moveable piece that offers the most salary relief, and the least critical (without an NMC) of the top-6 forwards.
- Monkeypunk

The only return for Willie would be high draft picks from a lower seeded team. Can't trade him for a top D or forward of equal value because of the same $ figure. Kerfoot the most likely option.

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

2 players who have positive value for 2 players that have negative value.

Sounds like a deal

He would destroy you

He watches WWE😳
- mr.sir

I can’t see any deal for Forsberg that the Preds agree to that actually works for us. We are too tight against the cap with Hyman, Andersen and then Rielly coming up and I’m sure there are teams that the Preds could deal with where they don’t have to retain to make it work.

Unless we’re moving Willie or something big, I could see a rental at the deadline using any savings they’ve been able to stitch together.

Not as shiny.

I don't think that's necessarily what's being said. I think the consideration that is being expressed is that the cap is going to be flat for another year, and the recovery going into 2023 is probably going to be slow as well.

We are up against the cap right now with about 7 regulars making $1.5m or less. At the end of this year, Hyman ($2.25m, probably going to get $4m-ish) is a UFA, and Andersen ($5m, probably due for $5 - $6m) is a UFA. We are also very likely going to lose Holl in the expansion draft. So at some point, we need to come up with money and a replacement top-4 D. Nylander may be the easiest card to play. There may be other options available (Is Sandin ready? Can we get a cheaper goalie to tandem with Campbell effectively? Do we have an appetite to trade Kerfoot and go with Robertson on the top-6 wing instead?).

But moving Nylander is an option that will always remain on the table, because at $7m, he's the most moveable piece that offers the most salary relief, and the least critical (without an NMC) of the top-6 forwards.
- Monkeypunk

The problem is that cap growth is going to be slow for a while, through to the end of Auston’s contract. Drafting and bring up players cheap players is key. Trading those types better be a home run.

The only return for Willie would be high draft picks from a lower seeded team. Can't trade him for a top D or forward of equal value because of the same $ figure. Kerfoot the most likely option.
- Leafsmart

That's why I've said previously that we would ultimately lose any trade where Nylander goes out. We're not likely to get back equal value. The only defenseman I can think of that was ever bandied about as an idea was Pesce who makes about $3m less than Willy, but it's not an equitable trade.

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

Nylander and Hyman for Myers and Virtanen.


That’s a heck of a deal for you fellers.
- DrunkenCanuck

Try so hard but. Just. Can’t. Quite. Pull. It. Off

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