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BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 7:55 PM ET
Boqvist will get there. He is starting to play with some confidence and to me, that was what was missing more than anything.
- Elbows15


I hope so, I like the fact he's concentrating on trying to be a better more responsible dman without the puck.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 26 @ 8:12 PM ET
Then you have to accept it will only work 6% of the time. The numbers would say NOT to give up future assets (picks & prospects) to try to win it all.
- scottak


Ha! That's crap and that's the old Pully/Wirtz philosophy. They are two different conversations really no? Yes you go for it if you're in striking distance and essentially it's only successful if it gets you to the promisee land.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
He was over 60% last night.

Well, no he wasn't. They had a graphic showing at 61% on the game last night but according to hockey reference, it was 45%

the (frank) they doing at nbsnc?

- Elbows15

NHL.com has him att 5-6=45%, too.
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

Feb 26 @ 8:15 PM ET
Hawks are now 7-1-2 in the 2nd game of the 2-game sets this season, and 6-0-0 for their last 6. Statistical anomaly? Players adjusting / learning their competition better than the other team? Dare I suggest – coaching?
- LAHawk

Outside of the first 3 losses, every loss since then has been by 1 goal, with the exception of the 5-3 loss to Carolina. Considering this team at the beginning of the year and the injuries, that's amazing. Has the defensive system clicked? We're in every game. It's almost like watching a different team out there. Hoping the wheels don't fall off considering the upcoming schedule. But loving the ride!
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Feb 26 @ 8:16 PM ET
Those were all from nursing homes.
- mohel

That was the deal - survive Covid and get free tickets to The Garden.

Courtesy of Gov. Cuomo.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Feb 26 @ 8:18 PM ET
Schmaltz and its not even close.
- Elbows15


Don't watch a lot of Yotes games, but unless Schmaltz has decided he'd like to play along the boards and try to win battles like the current crop, I don't want him either.

The game he was playing when he was here doesn't fit the current model. Maybe he's figured it out, Idk...but no if not.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 26 @ 8:32 PM ET
Don't watch a lot of Yotes games, but unless Schmaltz has decided he'd like to play along the boards and try to win battles like the current crop, I don't want him either.

The game he was playing when he was here doesn't fit the current model. Maybe he's figured it out, Idk...but no if not.

- HawkintheD

If Nylander was a center he'd be Schmaltz.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 26 @ 8:49 PM ET
Don't watch a lot of Yotes games, but unless Schmaltz has decided he'd like to play along the boards and try to win battles like the current crop, I don't want him either.

The game he was playing when he was here doesn't fit the current model. Maybe he's figured it out, Idk...but no if not.

- HawkintheD


Tocchet calls his line “The Short Leash” line. Even though he plays with the Yotes best offensive players (Keller, Garland) Tocchet s as us he has a short leash in them because of their disinterest in playing the other facets of the game.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 9:00 PM ET
He was over 60% last night.

Well, no he wasn't. They had a graphic showing at 61% on the game last night but according to hockey reference, it was 45%

the (frank) they doing at nbsnc?

- Elbows15


Who knows maybe they were just looking at his defensive zone draws
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 9:01 PM ET
Tocchet calls his line “The Short Leash” line. Even though he plays with the Yotes best offensive players (Keller, Garland) Tocchet s as us he has a short leash in them because of their disinterest in playing the other facets of the game.
- LAHawk

If there is a category for least prefered or he sucks players around the league, then I wish to enter another name to the Strome and Schmaltz brigade of unpopular players

Actually Strome's brother on the NYR
Isn't a scouting report on him very similar to the Blackhawks Strome? Specifically slow skate doesn't check or put forth much defensively effort.

Against the big bad tough Bruins tonight Strome has 1-2 for three points. His season 6 -7 for 13 pts in 18 gp including tonight.

Is it both Strome brothers much the same type player? Both drafted early first round too
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Feb 26 @ 9:19 PM ET
If there is a category for least prefered or he sucks players around the league, then I wish to enter another name to the Strome and Schmaltz brigade of unpopular players

Actually Strome's brother on the NYR
Isn't a sciutingbreoirt on him very similar to the Blackhawks Strome? Specifically slow skate doesn't check or put forth much defensively eforth.

Against the big bad tough Bruins tonight Strime has 1-2 for three points. His season 6 -7 for 13 puts in 18 gp including tonight.

Is it both Strime brothers much the same type player? Both drafted early first round too

- jhawk59


I think you can get a salve for that.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Feb 26 @ 9:24 PM ET
Outside of the first 3 losses, every loss since then has been by 1 goal, with the exception of the 5-3 loss to Carolina. Considering this team at the beginning of the year and the injuries, that's amazing. Has the defensive system clicked? We're in every game. It's almost like watching a different team out there. Hoping the wheels don't fall off considering the upcoming schedule. But loving the ride!
- Matt_Foleys_bro


Who knows as crazy as this sounds maybe they play up to their competition. Considering how good the goalies have been playing they may actually be in every game March

But hopefully they concentrate on the game in front of them, can't take the Wings lightly
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 9:32 PM ET
I think you can get a salve for that.
- mohel

A bandage on it already

Unfortunately there isn't any bandage or help to make either Strome brother more desirable on a team.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 26 @ 9:50 PM ET
If there is a category for least prefered or he sucks players around the league, then I wish to enter another name to the Strome and Schmaltz brigade of unpopular players

Actually Strome's brother on the NYR
Isn't a scouting report on him very similar to the Blackhawks Strome? Specifically slow skate doesn't check or put forth much defensively effort.

Against the big bad tough Bruins tonight Strome has 1-2 for three points. His season 6 -7 for 13 pts in 18 gp including tonight.

Is it both Strome brothers much the same type player? Both drafted early first round too

- jhawk59


Please post where you find that Ryan Strome is a slow skater? I have read just the opposite. Strome could use more strength, he is smaller than his brother 6 feet 170 pounds. He has turned his career around with the Rangers, they are very happy with him. Sad that your disdain for Strome extends to his brother.
Matt_Foleys_bro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.11.2012

Feb 26 @ 9:52 PM ET
Who knows as crazy as this sounds maybe they play up to their competition. Considering how good the goalies have been playing they may actually be in every game March

But hopefully they concentrate on the game in front of them, can't take the Wings lightly

- BetweenTheDots

Exactly. The Wings did look pretty good against us the last 2 games. We'll need those points. I'm thinking we'll know where we really stand after we slug it out with these top teams coming up. You keep it close, you'll always have a chance.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Feb 26 @ 10:16 PM ET
Please post where you find that Ryan Strome is a slow skater? I have read just the opposite. Strome could use more strength, he is smaller than his brother 6 feet 170 pounds. He has turned his career around with the Rangers, they are very happy with him. Sad that your disdain for Strome extends to his brother.
- LAHawk

Thanks for the review. I don't dislike the NYR Strome. I was suspicious that he was much the same type player as his brother.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 26 @ 10:27 PM ET
Thanks for the review. I don't dislike the NYR Strome. I was suspicious that he was much the same type player as his brother.
- jhawk59



Interesting that Ryan Strome didn t reach his potential until he was traded to his third team, maybe Dylan needs to be moved one more time.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 26 @ 10:32 PM ET
Don't watch a lot of Yotes games, but unless Schmaltz has decided he'd like to play along the boards and try to win battles like the current crop, I don't want him either.

The game he was playing when he was here doesn't fit the current model. Maybe he's figured it out, Idk...but no if not.

- HawkintheD

Strome can't even get to the boards when the puck is there. He doesn't fit the current model either. The question was a choice between the 2. Schmaltz is the better player.

One guy gets caved in nightly and the other at least keep the puck on the other end of the ice more often than not.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 26 @ 10:33 PM ET
Who knows maybe they were just looking at his defensive zone draws
- BetweenTheDots

Or were combining FOs for both games. Cause he lost only one more than he won last night.
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Feb 26 @ 10:35 PM ET
Tocchet calls his line “The Short Leash” line. Even though he plays with the Yotes best offensive players (Keller, Garland) Tocchet s as us he has a short leash in them because of their disinterest in playing the other facets of the game.
- LAHawk

He's playing 17 minutes a night.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Feb 26 @ 11:13 PM ET
He's playing 17 minutes a night.
- Elbows15


The line has only been together a week. So far they are trying to play a 200 ft. Game.
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 27 @ 12:18 AM ET
Don't watch a lot of Yotes games, but unless Schmaltz has decided he'd like to play along the boards and try to win battles like the current crop, I don't want him either.

The game he was playing when he was here doesn't fit the current model. Maybe he's figured it out, Idk...but no if not.

- HawkintheD


I specifically remember Schmaltz looking incredible at 2C to start that season when we beat the Penguins 10-1 on opening night at the UC. Schmaltz had a believe 3 maybe 4 pts that game, continued to play very well but then shortly after suffered an injury(might hav been collarbone but can’t recall) that completely ruined his season. Took him a while to recover and when he finally returned he wasn’t the same...and in fact he hasn’t been the same ever since even to this very day.

One thing he has that Strome certainly doesn’t is solid skating ability. Schmaltz is fast. And that alone makes me regret the trade, given that Strome hasn’t panned out. If anything I wish we at least had the guy with decent wheels. But oh well...
SimpleJack
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago , IL
Joined: 05.23.2013

Feb 27 @ 12:34 AM ET
The more I think about it, the more I like this setup for our 2021/22 forward lines if Toews returns:

Kurashev/Suter-Toews-Kubalik
DeBrincat-Suter/Kurashev-Kane
XXX-Dach-Hagel
XXX-Kampf-XXX

3rd line LW options will be endless: Janmark(if re-signed), Shaw(if he doesn’t retire), Strome, Nylander, etc.

There should also be plenty of options for 4th line wingers. Maybe we just keep Highmore and Carpenter there. Maybe we bring back Soderberg who’s been very solid and bump him down to the 4th line. Or try out some more new faces/rookies.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 27 @ 12:51 AM ET
Ha! That's crap and that's the old Pully/Wirtz philosophy. They are two different conversations really no? Yes you go for it if you're in striking distance and essentially it's only successful if it gets you to the promisee land.
- HawkintheD

If the added player gets you to the SCF it was worth the trade. Conference finals as well if the team has not made it that far in the past.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Feb 27 @ 1:13 AM ET
The more I think about it, the more I like this setup for our 2021/22 forward lines if Toews returns:

Kurashev/Suter-Toews-Kubalik
DeBrincat-Suter/Kurashev-Kane
XXX-Dach-Hagel
XXX-Kampf-XXX

3rd line LW options will be endless: Janmark(if re-signed), Shaw(if he doesn’t retire), Strome, Nylander, etc.

There should also be plenty of options for 4th line wingers. Maybe we just keep Highmore and Carpenter there. Maybe we bring back Soderberg who’s been very solid and bump him down to the 4th line. Or try out some more new faces/rookies.

- SimpleJack

It's highly likely next year's team will have at least 3 players not on the team or in the system this year. That's simply normal turnover. Where those players will slot is much more intriguing and will tell you how far they think they came this season. I suspect at least one more season of going with young guys unless they decide to leverage cap space with a bad contract from another team. Until they show something differently in their news, I don't expect Toews back.
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