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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Feb 27 @ 8:25 PM ET
Hiya, kids! Hiya, Hiya, Hiya!


- Bendecko



need to step up your game just a little bit.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 8:30 PM ET
I’m sorry but a Covid outbreak in the dressing room is a real possibility. I think I would make a run at Bobby Ryan at the right price for depth reasons. Ryan is actually scoring and looks to be one of the Wings better players as he gets paid peanuts.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 8:40 PM ET

Folks have mentioned Wisdom’s stunning start to a 18 year old rookie season, but how about the improvement from Joel Farabee’s former college teammate, Mad Max.

http://www.phantomshockey.com/player/willman-max/

2 more goals tonight
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 27 @ 8:52 PM ET
need to step up your game just a little bit.
- wcorvette

I will when I'm in the mood and have the time.

What about yourself? Would you care to share some of your own handiwork with the rest of FlyersBuzz?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Feb 27 @ 8:53 PM ET
Folks have mentioned Wisdom’s stunning start to a 18 year old rookie season, but how about the improvement from Joel Farabee’s former college teammate, Mad Max.

http://www.phantomshockey.com/player/willman-max/

2 more goals tonight

- NC Flyers Fan

good for him. might earn an emergency call up but he is 25
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 27 @ 8:59 PM ET
Folks have mentioned Wisdom’s stunning start to a 18 year old rookie season, but how about the improvement from Joel Farabee’s former college teammate, Mad Max.

http://www.phantomshockey.com/player/willman-max/

2 more goals tonight

- NC Flyers Fan

G1: https://twitter.com/SENetworkTV/status/1365831517293920260
G2: https://twitter.com/SENetworkTV/status/1365840922404151296
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
I agree. He doesn't move the puck quick enough. He doesn't draw the defenders in. He skates the puck for a few strides and telegraphs where the puck is going. He's also not good at rushing the puck and setting up.
- MJL

Yup, you put it well. And it’s constantly the safe play, doing that all the time isn’t going to score you goals. The one thing he does well is gets shot through but other than that we have other guys I’d like to see on there.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 9:21 PM ET
I agree. He doesn't move the puck quick enough. He doesn't draw the defenders in. He skates the puck for a few strides and telegraphs where the puck is going. He's also not good at rushing the puck and setting up.
- MJL

Learning curve. Who played on the top PP unit before Provorov? Kimmo Timonen, Mark Streit, Shayne Gostisbehere, Erik Gustafsson, Chris Pronger. It’s not like he doesn’t produce at all.
fishbulb
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.28.2009

Feb 27 @ 9:34 PM ET
Learning curve. Who played on the top PP unit before Provorov? Kimmo Timonen, Mark Streit, Shayne Gostisbehere, Erik Gustafsson, Chris Pronger. It’s not like he doesn’t produce at all.
- SuperSchennBros



A shortened season doesn't really lend itself to a learning curve. Put him on PP2 until he's sharper. Ghost is gaining confidence. Might as well try him there.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 9:40 PM ET
good for him. might earn an emergency call up but he is 25
- KINGKENZO


I’m just hoping he earns a 2-way contract so he can be a depth call up possibility.

NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 9:41 PM ET
G1: https://twitter.com/SENetworkTV/status/1365831517293920260
G2: https://twitter.com/SENetworkTV/status/1365840922404151296

- Bendecko

Thanks
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Feb 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
Learning curve. Who played on the top PP unit before Provorov? Kimmo Timonen, Mark Streit, Shayne Gostisbehere, Erik Gustafsson, Chris Pronger. It’s not like he doesn’t produce at all.
- SuperSchennBros

Has nothing to do with a learning curve, you either have it on the PP or you don’t. Maybe if he was his in first few years in the league, this guys a veteran at this point.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 9:44 PM ET
A shortened season doesn't really lend itself to a learning curve. Put him on PP2 until he's sharper. Ghost is gaining confidence. Might as well try him there.
- fishbulb


I think I am confused about which one is PP1 and which is PP2. Which one is the JVR one?
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 27 @ 9:50 PM ET
I think I am confused about which one is PP1 and which is PP2. Which one is the JVR one?
- NC Flyers Fan

yes
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 9:52 PM ET

Wisdom scored again tonight to force OT, but Phantom lose to the baby Penguins 4-5.

He was underrated at the draft but this is such a phenomenal start as an 18 year old pro.

Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 27 @ 9:52 PM ET
I think I am confused about which one is PP1 and which is PP2. Which one is the JVR one?
- NC Flyers Fan

This was from Bill's gameday blog today

PP1: JVR, Couturier, Hayes, Farabee, Provorov.
PP2: Giroux, Patrick, Voracek, Gustafsson, Gostisbehere.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 9:53 PM ET
yes
- Bendecko

Oh thanks...
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 27 @ 9:56 PM ET
Thanks
- NC Flyers Fan

You're welcome!
Oh thanks...
- NC Flyers Fan

No worries mate!
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Feb 27 @ 9:58 PM ET
This was from Bill's gameday blog

PP1: JVR, Couturier, Hayes, Farabee, Provorov.
PP2: Giroux, Patrick, Voracek, Gustafsson, Gostisbehere.

- Bendecko


Maybe just swap Provy and Gustafsson. Gus shot on the PP is really more accurate. Does that mean that unit is lacking enough defense though? Risky maybe

SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Feb 27 @ 10:27 PM ET
Has nothing to do with a learning curve, you either have it on the PP or you don’t. Maybe if he was his in first few years in the league, this guys a veteran at this point.
- ClaudeFather

Well this is crap pure crap. Tell you what, email Vigneault and tell him he’s running this wrong. Ghost was on the number one unit for along time. He lost it and he lost it for a reason, starting with not scoring a goal from December 20th 2019, to last Wednesday.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:33 PM ET
Of course islanders and Pens go to a shootout.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 28 @ 12:08 AM ET
Patty against tougher match ups. Hard to argue against the stats. Guess he’s as good as coots then.
- Peter Richards



Patrick also starts many more shifts in the ozone, tho.

NP isn't bad defensively, but neither is he all that great either. He's still riding his pre-draft reputation rep to an extent. There's a lot of room for improvement.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Feb 28 @ 12:11 AM ET
Bunnaman CF% is 47.17%. SCF% is 46.74%. xGF% is 41.57%. GA/60 is .9.

Other than the GA/60 number, very average. I would suspect as he plays more, that number would stabilize towards his line mates. He's shown that he can play a 4th line role in the NHL but lets not get carried away about him.

- MJL


Thing about Bunny is that he creates next to no offense, but he also allows next to no offense. There's a niche for a guy like that on an NHL roster. Maybe not as regular 4C, but he's definitely a lot better than than NP right now defensively.

If all I cared about was short term W/L, I'd sit NP for Bunny. But the Flyers have a vested long-term interest in getting NP going.
Bendecko
Location: Cave Putorium
Joined: 02.29.2020

Feb 28 @ 12:29 AM ET
https://twitter.com/JamieRivers08/status/1365889363285008387

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