Pettersson to Detroit for Fabbri and Ryan

Pettersson to Detroit for Fabbri and Ryan
- HenryHockey

Lol, I'd do it. Don't think Detroit would.

F it.. let's go big. Guentzel and Pettersson for Forsberg and Ekholm
- YouMeAndDupuis9

So we’re going to move guys locked up for 4 and 5 years for a couple of slightly above lateral moves in guys locked up for 2. Hard no.

So we’re going to move guys locked up for 4 and 5 years for a couple of slightly above lateral moves in guys locked up for 2. Hard no.
- j.boyd919

Yea, no haha. That's not "going big"

Well it won't be for Pettersson who they traded away. Dumo is too old. So trade Poulin/Legare for Rakell?
- YouMeAndDupuis9

Tampa paid a 1st and Cal Foote (1st round pick dman) for Blake Coleman so I’d think that will cost ya much more then just 1 of those guys. But he’s only a 30 point 4th line scrubber (3rd liner for Tampa) so who wants him!?

We also once traded a 4th for oleksiak and them gave him back for that exact same 4th. So if we will take a 4th back maybe Anaheim will take back a more seasoned Petts.

We also once traded a 4th for oleksiak and them gave him back for that exact same 4th. So if we will take a 4th back maybe Anaheim will take back a more seasoned Petts.
- 10inchTerror

That's what I was thinking.

Tampa paid a 1st and Cal Foote (1st round pick dman) for Blake Coleman so I’d think that will cost ya much more then just 1 of those guys. But he’s only a 30 point 4th line scrubber (3rd liner for Tampa) so who wants him!?
- pens4life-66

So we done comparing Tampa to Pittsburgh? Tampa had a way more complete top 6 and better forward group when they added Coleman. Blue, Tanev, McCann, Kap, ZAR would be 5 of our bottom 6 if we add a top 6 forward. Then sure if we can add Glendenning or Foligno go for it. But just not worth it unless we get a top 6 winger.

Dominik Simon is on waivers. Any takers? Personally, I think we have enough mediocrity in the lineup.

Dominik Simon is on waivers. Any takers? Personally, I think we have enough mediocrity in the lineup.
- PittsPens

Nah, like was said before. That ship sailed.

Leafs fan here - what would be a fair trade for Dumoulin - 4.1 not good for leafs

but he certainly would be a solid add to the d-core.

Dumoulin (2.0 retained) + McCann + 2021 5th

FOR

Kerfoot + Vesey + 2021 2nd + 2021 6th

Kerfoot & McCann cancel out - so Dumoulin + 5th for Vesey + 2nd & 6th

Leafs add aboout 500k to their cap - Pens reduce cap by aboout 500k

McCan was with Dubas back in the day (Soo Greyhounds)
- paulozz

Too complicated and Pens probably won't retain, especially for moneybags Toronto (I know it's more to do with the cap, but Pens are up against it this year and next). Also, we have about 20 Veseys so we don't need another. And I like McCann.

Dumo for Kerfoot straight up. The value is about right and the salaries are close enough.

Tampa paid a 1st and Cal Foote (1st round pick dman) for Blake Coleman so I’d think that will cost ya much more then just 1 of those guys. But he’s only a 30 point 4th line scrubber (3rd liner for Tampa) so who wants him!?
- pens4life-66

Coleman was a very valuable piece because of his salary cap. Tampa usually wouldnt have been able to afford a guy like him, but because his cap was reasonable, a deal was made.

NJ got paid for the player plus the contract he had.

I might take some heat for this take, but I dont think this team is worth investing futures in. I think trading a LHD is a smart move (outside of it being POJ)... but I am not interested in trading Poulin, POJ, or our 2nd round pick, especially since we have no 1st, 3rd, or 4th.

I think this team can make a hockey trade or two. This team has no identity and no chance of competing for a Cup. I dont see value in further stripping an asset-lite franchise of more assets to make a run at losing in the second round.

I think this team is good enough to come out of the other side with a playoff spot. It will be tight, and we might fall short. the only hope then is that the 1st round pick we gave up stays in the mid-1st round.

I might take some heat for this take, but I dont think this team is worth investing futures in. I think trading a LHD is a smart move (outside of it being POJ)... but I am not interested in trading Poulin, POJ, or our 2nd round pick, especially since we have no 1st, 3rd, or 4th.

I think this team can make a hockey trade or two. This team has no identity and no chance of competing for a Cup. I dont see value in further stripping an asset-lite franchise of more assets to make a run at losing in the second round.

I think this team is good enough to come out of the other side with a playoff spot. It will be tight, and we might fall short. the only hope then is that the 1st round pick we gave up stays in the mid-1st round.
- SuperHenderson13

This team is polarizing. They literally played the worst game ever on Sunday then Tuesday come out playing pretty damn good. So yea it can go either way. However with Burke's comments it seems they will try and add through a "hockey trade". But we'll see.

Coleman was a very valuable piece because of his salary cap. Tampa usually wouldnt have been able to afford a guy like him, but because his cap was reasonable, a deal was made.

NJ got paid for the player plus the contract he had.
- SuperHenderson13

I feel the same factors were in play when acquiring Kap. Relatively low salary for this year and next and team control in two years.

I feel the same factors were in play when acquiring Kap. Relatively low salary for this year and next and team control in two years.
- Hockey66

Yea that's why it was a 1st. Wish it wasn't but here we are haha.

Yea that's why it was a 1st. Wish it wasn't but here we are haha.
- 668710

Also he's just 24 so he's got some upside whereas Coleman (29) is what you see is what you get.

I might take some heat for this take, but I dont think this team is worth investing futures in. I think trading a LHD is a smart move (outside of it being POJ)... but I am not interested in trading Poulin, POJ, or our 2nd round pick, especially since we have no 1st, 3rd, or 4th.

I think this team can make a hockey trade or two. This team has no identity and no chance of competing for a Cup. I dont see value in further stripping an asset-lite franchise of more assets to make a run at losing in the second round.

I think this team is good enough to come out of the other side with a playoff spot. It will be tight, and we might fall short. the only hope then is that the 1st round pick we gave up stays in the mid-1st round.
- SuperHenderson13

I think they would need to make some really bold moves to be competitive and even then I don't know if we can overcome the injuries and roster construction. But yeah, the rental route seems futile (picks / prospects for vets). Standing pat sounds dreadful. I do like the idea of a hockey trade or two. We definitely have surpluses and deficits in the roster to address which might set us up for next year, although I like our chances even less when the big 3 are another year older.

I might take some heat for this take, but I dont think this team is worth investing futures in. I think trading a LHD is a smart move (outside of it being POJ)... but I am not interested in trading Poulin, POJ, or our 2nd round pick, especially since we have no 1st, 3rd, or 4th.

I think this team can make a hockey trade or two. This team has no identity and no chance of competing for a Cup. I dont see value in further stripping an asset-lite franchise of more assets to make a run at losing in the second round.

I think this team is good enough to come out of the other side with a playoff spot. It will be tight, and we might fall short. the only hope then is that the 1st round pick we gave up stays in the mid-1st round.
- SuperHenderson13

Letang is playing better. Jarry is playing much better. Malkin is playing somewhat better. Plus we have 16 games against Buffalo and NJ while Washington and the Flyers have already feasted on them. I'm starting to get a positive vibe. Hopefully Sid doesn't miss too much time.

I want the 4th line flushed. Nothing but a black hole. If I'm making a trade, I'm getting a 4C first 'cause it shouldn't cost too much. I don't believe you have to worry about too many futures leaving with Hextall.

Letang is playing better. Jarry is playing much better. Malkin is playing somewhat better. Plus we have 16 games against Buffalo and NJ while Washington and the Flyers have already feasted on them. I'm starting to get a positive vibe. Hopefully Sid doesn't miss too much time.

I want the 4th line flushed. Nothing but a black hole. If I'm making a trade, I'm getting a 4C first 'cause it shouldn't cost too much. I don't believe you have to worry about too many futures leaving with Hextall.
- madmike71

Watch Buffalo and NJ go on a tear and their goalies play like Vezina candidates when it's our turn.

I agree about the 4th line. Make it a line that is truly hard to play against in one way or another, but the vanilla nothingness needs to end.

The problem with many of these proposals is that they are based on trades that were made over a year ago in a pre pandemic world.
Most teams cannot take on money. No team wants term, unless it for a star player
It has to be dollar in, dollar out. Dumoulin is a decent D man with two years left on his deal. Once worth 4.1m a year. But the marketplace has changed dramatically. If he was on the open market, he’d be lucky to get 1.5m.
Every team has a Dumoulin. Some teams have more. The only way out for any of these bad deals is a buyout.

The problem with many of these proposals is that they are based on trades that were made over a year ago in a pre pandemic world.
Most teams cannot take on money. No team wants term, unless it for a star player
It has to be dollar in, dollar out. Dumoulin is a decent D man with two years left on his deal. Once worth 4.1m a year. But the marketplace has changed dramatically. If he was on the open market, he’d be lucky to get 1.5m.
Every team has a Dumoulin. Some teams have more. The only way out for any of these bad deals is a buyout.
- BernardShakey

Lol no.

Penguin fans are an equal mix of entitlement and ignorance. It’s as if Pens fans feel their opinions are more credible because of their Cup wins. Knowing the grassroots hockey scene in Pittsburgh, most of these guys running their mouths have never actually strapped on the blades. Refer to Mark Madden
Only an idiot would think the Penguins are going anywhere. Their top players are best their best. They have little depth. A poor farm system and have traded many draft picks away.

Penguin fans are an equal mix of entitlement and ignorance. It’s as if Pens fans feel their opinions are more credible because of their Cup wins. Knowing the grassroots hockey scene in Pittsburgh, most of these guys running their mouths have never actually strapped on the blades. Refer to Mark Madden
Only an idiot would think the Penguins are going anywhere. Their top players are best their best. They have little depth. A poor farm system and have traded many draft picks away.
- BernardShakey

Mark Madden would be the first to tell you the Penguins window has slammed shut, but go on about what you don't know!

Penguin fans are an equal mix of entitlement and ignorance. It’s as if Pens fans feel their opinions are more credible because of their Cup wins. Knowing the grassroots hockey scene in Pittsburgh, most of these guys running their mouths have never actually strapped on the blades. Refer to Mark Madden
Only an idiot would think the Penguins are going anywhere. Their top players are best their best. They have little depth. A poor farm system and have traded many draft picks away.
- BernardShakey

This is rich coming from a Leafs fan. Leafs fans have been beating their chests over absolutely nothing for decades. Leafs fans know everything, win nothing.

In all honesty, do I actually think every Leafs fan is the same? Fvck no... that'd be pure ignorance....

I do think the Leafs time is coming though...they're getting close.