It wasn’t worded as “retirement” but rather unable to continue due to injury.
- 1970vintage

Probably will be working for the NHL in 3 weeks

Ya, he is a terrible coach

https://www.statscrew.com...hockey/stats/c-sutteda01c
- Reubenkincade

I never said he was terrible but has had his day. AV has a killer record too would you be happy if we brought him back here? Sure in the short term he may get some results in CGY but long-term based on the coaches that are currently available? Don't see it...

When was the last time Sutter coached, Kings 2014ish?

I think Sutter will have a bit of a rude awakening now that the NHL is fully ruled by Zennials and Z’s with their “you have to ask nicely and I want to feel like I’m contributing”...

The world (game) has changed.
- 1970vintage

It’s only been four years.

Amazing

- VANTEL

and just like that Chicago are free of yet another horrific contract

circumvention for the win!

Just posted above what that team has on LTIR
- bloatedmosquito

Saw that, Seabrook and Toews are 17 million of that, I expect Toews back next year though.

It’s only been four years.
- Pacificgem

Sutter will get results.

It’s only been four years.
- Pacificgem

A lot has happened in 4 years.

Funny thing is the whiners wanted an extensive interviews this time and done properly and hire a coach with experience. This week look on the rolodex and see who is available.

- VANTEL

Sutter is a short-term 'fix' for a long-term problem in CGY. That club has a lot of the same issues we have technically. But having said that they were willing to make the change mid season to give the club a boost so there is that.

Saw that, Seabrook and Toews are 17 million of that, I expect Toews back next year though.
- Pacificgem

I am waiting for Canucks to retire (LTIR) Loui next year and then Bettman will put a recapture on the loophole

A lot has happened in 4 years.
- 1970vintage

When was the last time Sutter coached, Kings 2014ish?

I think Sutter will have a bit of a rude awakening now that the NHL is fully ruled by Zennials and Z’s with their “you have to ask nicely and I want to feel like I’m contributing”...

The world (game) has changed.
- 1970vintage

lol correct.

and just like that Chicago are free of yet another horrific contract

circumvention for the win!
- Brooks_Light

I am waiting for Canucks to retire (LTIR) Loui next year and then Bettman will put a recapture on the loophole

- VANTEL

and just like that Chicago are free of yet another horrific contract

circumvention for the win!
- Brooks_Light

the funny/troubling thing (at least for me) re: luongo is that he and his family were/are reportedly friends with FA and his family.

so you would think that he undoubtedly told FA about the retirement prior to announcing it. that means either 1) FA didn't care about the cap recapture because it actually saves him real money; or 2) Lui did what was best for himself and wasn't too concerned about FA or the canucks.

i find 1) unlikely as FA has shown he'll spend money (within reasonable limits,) so i find 2) more likely: lui did what was best for himself.

the point i'm trying to make is: i don't get why people want the organization to honour that guy. best goalie the canucks ever had but he was about his canucks team winning, not the organization or city (if you can understand my meaning.)

Sutter is a short-term 'fix' for a long-term problem in CGY. That club has a lot of the same issues we have technically. But having said that they were willing to make the change mid season to give the club a boost so there is that.
- LordHumungous

Mtl are 10 W and 12 losses and spent 102 Mil this year . That is why they fired the coach.

Cgy was another team who were buyers to a less extent ,I think Treliving is getting nervous. Daryll also was a GM

the funny/troubling thing (at least for me) re: luongo is that he and his family were/are reportedly friends with FA and his family.

so you would think that he undoubtedly told FA about the retirement prior to announcing it. that means either 1) FA didn't care about the cap recapture because it actually saves him real money; or 2) Lui did what was best for himself and wasn't too concerned about FA or the canucks.

i find 1) unlikely as FA has shown he'll spend money (within reasonable limits,) so i find 2) more likely: lui did what was best for himself.

the point i'm trying to make is: i don't get why people want the organization to honour that guy. best goalie the canucks ever had but he was about his canucks team winning, not the organization or city (if you can understand my meaning.)
- RealityChecker

I would assume there was some bad blood between Luongo and the Canucks organization, didn’t end well and quickly soured after the outdoor game under Tortorella.

Mtl are 10 W and 12 losses and spent 102 Mil this year . That is why they fired the coach.

Cgy was another team who were buyers to a less extent ,I think Treliving is getting nervous. Daryll also was a GM
- VANTEL

i agree. GMs who mismanage their cap should be nervous about being fired.

Mtl are 10 W and 12 losses and spent 102 Mil this year . That is why they fired the coach.

Cgy was another team who were buyers to a less extent ,I think Treliving is getting nervous. Daryll also was a GM
- VANTEL

He’s next on the chop block.

i agree. GMs who mismanage their cap should be nervous about being fired.
- RealityChecker

I think there's different perceptions of mismanaging the cap. If you're referring to the Canucks, they're always compliant.

i agree. GMs who mismanage their cap should be nervous about being fired.
- RealityChecker

Flames are built to win now, Sutter is probably a short term thing but a much needed kick in the ass for a quiet group in Calgary.

I would assume there was some bad blood between Luongo and the Canucks organization, didn’t end well and quickly soured after the outdoor game under Tortorella.
- Pacificgem

that's why i put in the personal friendship between FA and RL.

there definitely was a bad ending but that stuff wouldn't have been on a personal level with the owner (at least imo.)

I think there's different perceptions of mismanaging the cap. If you're referring to the Canucks, they're always compliant.
- Marwood

You forgot the winky face

Flames are built to win now, Sutter is probably a short term thing but a much needed kick in the ass for a quiet group in Calgary.
- Pacificgem

Sutter + for Bennett.

Flames are built to win now, Sutter is probably a short term thing but a much needed kick in the ass for a quiet group in Calgary.
- Pacificgem

agreed. this was a message sent to the players.

and that implied message will be explicit in the next few weeks.

i wonder how this group would deal with a coach like that? i/we discussed hitchcock last week. how would creative types like EP and QH deal with strict systems coach? they definitely need it but would they accept it?

i'm not distilling it to the generational issue but there is some merit on the psychological makeup of the stars? unless you have buy in from the stars, sh!t could go sideways real quick with a hard a$$ coach.

that's why i put in the personal friendship between FA and RL.

there definitely was a bad ending but that stuff wouldn't have been on a personal level with the owner (at least imo.)
- RealityChecker

Aquilini (frank)ed Luongo, he allowed the mess to perpetuate itself. Luongo probably felt like Francesco brought in Tortorella so he was just as much at fault....who knows.

At the end of the day Luongo obviously didn’t give flying f**k about the recapture as he wasn’t injured he just didn’t want to play anymore.