Jeremy Laura: Dallas rewarded for effort, Detroit shut out 3-0

Yeah, talking about a loss is not much fun. We will gravitate to discussing the future instead.
I don't see a lot of picks coming our way. It might be better to insist on 2022 picks or a prospect instead of the 2021 picks that may well be nothing but crap shoots.

After being screwed in the draft lottery so many times, I don't really care where we finish. I know this sounds bad but I've given up on the Red Wings getting any lottery luck. The NHL seems to have this incessant need to keep the Red Wings down while gifting other teams franchise players. We'll draft who we draft and just hope for the best.

After being screwed in the draft lottery so many times, I don't really care where we finish. I know this sounds bad but I've given up on the Red Wings getting any lottery luck. The NHL seems to have this incessant need to keep the Red Wings down while gifting other teams franchise players. We'll draft who we draft and just hope for the best.
- gergeswillems

Let’s load up on picks and let Stevie build. In the past Detroit has done some great development work compared to most NHL teams.
The biggest Improvement still needed by this team is the Coaching, I can’t stop asking myself is it Stevie's choice or does ownership play a role in the coaching decision lately?

Let’s load up on picks and let Stevie build. In the past Detroit has done some great development work compared to most NHL teams.
The biggest Improvement still needed by this team is the Coaching, I can’t stop asking myself is it Stevie's choice or does ownership play a role in the coaching decision lately?
- Tee56

Red Wings fans won't want to hear this but I think Blashill is coming back next season. I can hear Stevie saying "Look how well the team competed when they were healthy." Winning games and competing without Bertuzzi strengthens Blashill's case even more.

It's definitely Stevie's choice to keep Blashill. He wouldn't have taken the GM job if he didn't have complete autonomy. I think Blashill is VERY good at being a used car salesman. And I mean that in a complimentary way. He sounds the part and looks the part. But the results aren't there. I think Stevie likes Blashill and it's clouding his judgment. He's literally never said anything negative about him. He's only pumped his tires.

It's like any workplace. You give more leniency to people you like. I trust the Yzerplan but I'll never say Steve Yzerman never makes mistakes.

Changing the coaching staff may be helpful, but it is not the solution. Getting more picks is essential for the Wings as there is currently very few NHL calibre players on the roster. Larkin and Mantha are both rated as top-notch second liners with the ability to move up-and-down a competitive lineup. Bertuzzin is also a suitable second liner. Fabri, Zadina and Namestnikov are acceptable third and fourth liners. The remainder of the forwards and all of the defenders are fringe or minor league talents. It is difficult to blame the coaching staff for the results.

This rebuild has been painful. They are yet to draft an elite talent. Management must be willing to part with almost any roster player in an effort to acquire high picks and fresh prospects. The upcoming drafts need to be successful. If a few elite/top line talents and respectable defenders are not acquired it will likely be the end of the Yzerman era.

Changing the coaching staff may be helpful, but it is not the solution. Getting more picks is essential for the Wings as there is currently very few NHL calibre players on the roster. Larkin and Mantha are both rated as top-notch second liners with the ability to move up-and-down a competitive lineup. Bertuzzin is also a suitable second liner. Fabri, Zadina and Namestnikov are acceptable third and fourth liners. The remainder of the forwards and all of the defenders are fringe or minor league talents. It is difficult to blame the coaching staff for the results.

This rebuild has been painful. They are yet to draft an elite talent. Management must be willing to part with almost any roster player in an effort to acquire high picks and fresh prospects. The upcoming drafts need to be successful. If a few elite/top line talents and respectable defenders are not acquired it will likely be the end of the Yzerman era.
- Jackie Daytona

So coaching (lack thereof) has nothing to do with it? Please explain. The Yzerman era just started. It's over already? Yzerman is fixing Ken Holland's mess.

Zadina and Fabbri are third line talents? Hilarious. Seider isn't an elite talent? More hilarious. Raymond was just drafted a few months ago. You're giving up on him already?

Acquiring top talent isn't easy. It takes time to build a successful team. You can't do it overnight. You draft, develop, make trades and only then do you augment your team with free agents to get them over the top. Some players don't develop as fast as others.

I love these blanket statements by other teams fans without citing specific examples. Instead of loving the sound of your own voice, try digging a little deeper next time.

So coaching (lack thereof) has nothing to do with it? Please explain. The Yzerman era just started. It's over already? Yzerman is fixing Ken Holland's mess.

Zadina and Fabbri are third line talents? Hilarious. Seider isn't an elite talent? More hilarious. Raymond was just drafted a year ago. You're giving up on him already?

I love these blanket statement by other teams fans without citing specific examples. Instead of loving the sound of your own voice, try digging a little deeper next time.

I suggest you read my entire post as it clearly answers your question.. I will summarize in fewer words. The current Red Wings are a bottom tier team without any real talent. This squad would remain a bottom-5 team even with an elite coach like Barry Trots.

Due to the utter lack of talent, changing the coaching staff now will have little effect on stats. Also, the team needs to bottom out to draft some elite talent. Striving to move out of the bottom-5 should not be an organization desire at this time.

Despite your foolish pronouncement, Seider is not an elite NHL player. In fact, he is second liner in on his lowly SHL team. His NHL future is uncertain, but he will never be among the NHL's elite.

My assessment of the Wings players is universally shared around the league. Fans of all teams overrate their players. It is wise to remember shills like Daniels and Fletcher and well-paid to present favorable views of wings players and prospects. The rest of the league does not view them this way.

I suggest you read my entire post as it clearly answers your question.. I will summarize in fewer words. The current Red Wings are a bottom tier team without any real talent. This squad would remain a bottom-5 team even with an elite coach like Barry Trots.

Due to the utter lack of talent, changing the coaching staff now will have little effect on stats. Also, the team needs to bottom out to draft some elite talent. Striving to move out of the bottom-5 should not be an organization desire at this time.
- Jackie Daytona

You're still talking out of your a$$. Of course the Red Wings are a bottom 5 team. They're rebuilding. Coaching makes a difference. If you can't understand this then you're more clueless than I thought. A good coach can make a bad team look better. An average team look good. A good team look great. How has Blashill improved the Red Wings exactly?

Blashill has been here for 6 years and what's his legacy? Of course he's not the only reason why this team has been awful but absolving him from any blame is ignorant. Throw out more blanket statements smart guy. The Red Wings need more top tier talent. Got it. Thanks.

I suggest you read my entire post as it clearly answers your question.. I will summarize in fewer words. The current Red Wings are a bottom tier team without any real talent. This squad would remain a bottom-5 team even with an elite coach like Barry Trots.

Due to the utter lack of talent, changing the coaching staff now will have little effect on stats. Also, the team needs to bottom out to draft some elite talent. Striving to move out of the bottom-5 should not be an organization desire at this time.

My assessment of the Wings players is universally shared around the league. Fans of all teams overrate their players. It is wise to remember shills like Daniels and Fletcher and well-paid to present favorable views of wings players and prospects. The rest of the league does not view them this way.
- Jackie Daytona

It's Trotz by the way. You don't speak for everyone. So I don't know where you're getting "universally shared" from. Red Wings media has lots of shills like HSJ, Khan, Kulfan, etc. But not all Red Wings fans are slappies, apologists and lemmings.

Some of us can actually think for ourselves. Not you though. Pretty much everything you've said, I've heard from other hockey sites, tv, twitter, etc. Blanket statements with nothing to back it up with. No specific examples cited because you don't watch any of the games.

You thought you'd come in here and kick Red Wings fans when we're down. We know we're a bad team. You kicking dirt on us makes you feel better about your insecure self. Good for you. Do you also enjoy pulling Wings off fish flies?

I don't even mind you kicking dirt on the Red Wings. All I ask is that you get your facts straight and dig deeper than "universally shared." Copy and pasting other sites isn't a good look and it's certainly not original. But you're the smart guy who knows it all right?

It's Trotz by way.

I suppose you meant to say Trotz by "the" way. I suppose we both need a proofreader.

You're still talking out of your a$$. Of course the Red Wings are a bottom 5 team. They're rebuilding. Coaching makes a difference. If you can't understand this then you're more clueless than I thought. A good coach can make a bad team look better. An average team look good. A good team look great. How has Blashill improved the Red Wings exactly?

Blashill has been here for 6 years and what's his legacy? Of course he's not the only reason why this team has been awful but absolving him from any blame is ignorant. Throw out more blanket statements smart guy. The Red Wings need more top tier talent. Got it. Thanks.
- gergeswillems

In defending the Wings, you completely disregard my point. I will bluntly simply further for your simple mind. The Wings suck and they are doing so on purpose. Changing the coach will have limited effect on the results. Any slight improvement is unfavorable and it would be unwise to change the coaches at this point, despite the fact this talentless team would still be bottom 5 with the best coach.

You thought you'd come in here and kick Red Wings fans when we're down. We know we're a bad team. You kicking dirt on us makes you feel better about your insecure self. Good for you. Do you also enjoy pulling Wings off fish flies?

I did not come here to kick anyone. I simply explained that loosing is good for the wings. MY first post was very polite and strait forward. A rebuild is needed, not a coaching change. Even a simpleton like yourself must be able to see this?? I expect you will follow with some pointless argument that the Wings players are all elites and a new coach will bring home the Cup?

I have no more time for you. You completely disregard my point. I will bluntly simply further for your simple mind. The Wings suck and they are doing so on purpose. Changing the coach will have limited effect on the results. Any slight improvement is unfavorable and it would be unwise to change the coaches at this point, despite the fact this talentless team would still be bottom 5 with the best coach.
- Jackie Daytona

I have no time for you. You lost all credibility (if you had any to begin with) when you said Seider is questionable to make it to the NHL. Because not only are you dead wrong, you're once again talking out of your a$$. I know a phony when I see one and you certainly fit the bill. Your basic lack of hockey knowledge is entertaining though. But you're not very bright so I can't hold it against you.

I suggest you are bit defensive about the Wings troubles. The solution of drafting talent is obvious to all but a few. Feel free to foolishly believe the current roster is stacked with tremendous players that will be competitive with a better coach. Your undying loyalty, even in troubled times, is what makes sports beloved.

I believe I may have met you at an event in Ontario at one time. Perhaps you paid me to sign your jersey?

From a former player to a abiding Wings fan. Have a nice day.

I have no more time for you. You completely disregard my point. I will bluntly simply further for your simple mind. The Wings suck and they are doing so on purpose. Changing the coach will have limited effect on the results. Any slight improvement is unfavorable and it would be unwise to change the coaches at this point, despite the fact this talentless team would still be bottom 5 with the best coach.


I did not come here to kick anyone. I simply explained that loosing is good for the wings. MY first post was very polite and strait forward. A rebuild is needed, not a coaching change. Even a simpleton like yourself must be able to see this??
- Jackie Daytona

It's exactly why you came here. To tell Red Wings fans how much our team sucks. Duh? Thanks, Tips. Your feeble mind can't grasp the concept the Red Wings are in the early stages of a rebuild. There's nothing original about you. You simply parrot what the morons on hockey HF boards are saying. They don't watch Red Wings games either.

From a former Wings player to a fool. Have a nice day.
- Jackie Daytona

Former Red Wings player! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hi. I'm Johnny O! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I suggest you are bit defensive about the Wings troubles. The solution of drafting talent is obvious to all but a few. Feel free to foolishly believe the current roster is stacked with tremendous players that will be competitive with a better coach. Your undying loyalty, even in troubled times, is what makes sports beloved.

From a former Wings player to a abiding Wings fan. Have a nice day.
- Jackie Daytona

Yeah sure. You're a former Red Wings player. And I'm a former Tigers player from '84. You don't really understand hockey and that's ok. But you don't have to lie about who you are. Take the L. Stop embarrassing yourself. If I met you in Windsor I hope I gave you a dollar for washing my car windows.

Edit: You keep editing your posts. It's Ontario now? What happened to Windsor? Well that's technically still in Ontario. Make up your mind. Are you still a former Red Wings player? Or have you since broken Usain Bolt's 100 metre dash world record time?

Edit: You keep editing your posts. It's Ontario now? What happened to Windsor? Well that's technically still in Ontario. Make up your mind. Are you still a former Red Wings player? Or have you since broken Usain Bolt's 100 metre dash world record time?
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I did not wish to tie your intellect to the great hard working people of the Rose City so to befuddle the location I chose to expand the area to include all of Ontario. I chose to be polite to the other Canadian folk south of the Detroit/Windsor border.

[quote=Jackie Daytona]
Do you put words in their mouth's too? I'd like for you to show me where I said the Red Wings are an elite team with elite players. What I do know is that you're an elite jacka$$.

"Do you put words in their mouth's too? I'd like for you to show me where I said the Red Wings are an elite team with elite players. What I do know is that you're an elite jacka$$."

-gergeswillems

You have an inability to read coherently. I am confident I predicted you might respond to my post with a claim that the Wings are all elite players. This is quite different from stating it is a fact.

However, you falsely claimed I said Seider would not be an NHL player, when in fact I stated he will not be an elite player, but his NHL future remains unknown. Let me clarify. Our agency has him rated with a high potential to be a second liner. Perhaps, he may develop into a first liner or just as likely he could become a fringe player. He has not even regularly played on North American sized ice. His NHL future remains unknown.

[quote=Jackie Daytona]
You're in an "agency" now? Hilarious. The BS keeps piling up. Wow! We're so lucky to have a former Red Wings player who now has an "agency" gracing us with his presence! Thank you so much! Maybe you missed the part where Steve Yzerman said he wanted to compete more this season but I'm sure you know more than he does. Yzerman is also a former Red Wings player but his opinion is actually worth something.

Your reading skills aren't very good. I didn't say Seider is an elite NHL talent. You added the NHL part to support your flawed narrative. I don't suffer fools lightly so you'll have to try harder than that. Thanks for taking the time for me though. You apparently had no time earlier but I guess you lied about that too.

I thought Seider is a defenseman? They usually play on "pairs" or "pairings." Not "lines" like forwards do. You being a former EA Sports Red Wings player should know this. I bet the residents of Windsor do. Try to keep up.

You are welcome. It has been a pleasure to provide you a free education. Unfortunately these 20 posts or so post have been useless to most other readers as most are aware of the the Wing's current situation.

Just a reminder, this whole mess started with the assessment that the Wings need to draft well in the coming years to acquire some elite players needed to propel the team back to the top of the standings. Losing now is good as it will increase the chance of more favorable selections. Nothing will change my opinion on this.

As today's big match-up in the sunshine state is set to begin, I must bid you farewell. Unfortunately, I will not be able to respond further

You are welcome. It has been a pleasure to provide you a free education. Unfortunately these 20 posts or so post have been useless to most other readers as most are aware of the the Wing's current situation.

Just a reminder, this whole mess started with the assessment that the Wings need to draft well in the coming years to acquire some elite players needed to propel the team back to the top of the standings. Losing now is good as it will increase the chance of more favorable selections. Nothing will change my opinion on this.

As today's big match-up in the sunshine state is set to begin, I must bid you farewell. Unfortunately, I will not be able to respond further
- Jackie Daytona

Awww, you're tapping out already? You are right about one thing. Your "hockey" opinions certainly are useless. Try to keep your word this time. Have a nice day!

After being screwed in the draft lottery so many times, I don't really care where we finish. I know this sounds bad but I've given up on the Red Wings getting any lottery luck. The NHL seems to have this incessant need to keep the Red Wings down while gifting other teams franchise players. We'll draft who we draft and just hope for the best.


The Red Wings will draft from the lowest possible position like they have the last four seasons. Gary will make sure of it.

Gerge, You sure have some moxie and took it to the net like big power forward and stuffed the puck and that dude into the back of the net!

Gerge, You sure have some moxie and took it to the net like big power forward and stuffed the puck and that dude into the back of the net!
- HenryHockey

Ha! If a person needs to claim they're a former Red Wings player (don't forget about his agency) on Hockey Buzz, odds are they aren't a former Red Wings player. It was quite hilarious though! I'm Johnny O!

Sidenote: When I was a very young Red Wings fan my Dad asked a Red Wings fan "What would Detroit be without Johnny O?" The fan replied "DetrIT."