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bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 9:47 PM ET
Yeah, and for most sensible people, they would understand I was talking about not changing draft position while losing with as little pain as possible. After all, I only talk about this 25 times each day.

And please, just (frank)ing spare me the life crap.

- PT21


A sensitive topic I see. Well I’m just posting to a hockey board during a uncompetitive game how was I to know.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:47 PM ET
In other words, you had no point at all. I never said anything about compete level. I said if they had to lose, I would prefer they lose small.
- PT21


Actually he did have a point it was really a simple one that has escaped you. All he is simply saying is that if they're going to lose, he wants to team to go down with a fight rather than a whimper. Why is that so hard to understand for a scholar like yourself?
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:49 PM ET
Just being animalistic and pandering to my pent up frustrations.
- PT21


I understand, but when they are this bad I just find it hard to give a poop.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 25 @ 9:50 PM ET
poor guy? It is his coaching staff that is coaching this team. He has culpability in this mess!
- corduroy

This is not about coaching, these players are not playing smart, their D zone coverages are awful, their line changes are awful, they continue to pass-first even when they are down 7-2, my beer league plays better hockey than this. This is completely on the players!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:51 PM ET
We have like 1.45 million in cap space. Please tell me how anyone expects to add anyone of significance to this lineup?
- Buzzo


The Flyers have more cap space than that. They currently are carrying 8 defenseman on the cap. They'll have the ability at the trade deadline to add a player(s) with a cap hit of close to 6M.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 25 @ 9:51 PM ET
This is not about coaching, these players are not playing smart, their D zone coverages are awful, their line changes are awful, they continue to pass-first even when they are down 7-2, my beer league plays better hockey than this. This is completely on the players!
- jd250

No. No. No. I’m sure the 6th coach will figure it out lol
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 25 @ 9:52 PM ET
I’ve never witnessed a team to be so feckless in a just short of a month of hockey.
To see this many blowouts is crazy.
The flyers are in a bad situation right now. They are skating in fan indifference territory.
The only saving grace they have is covid restrictions.
If this was a normal season for sure there would be a ton of empty seats.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 25 @ 9:52 PM ET
Bill should just repost his blog from the other loss
- hereticpride

He should just post a blog with the time of the game and that’s it , then let us run rampid
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 25 @ 9:52 PM ET
First time in Flyers history that they allowed 15 straight goals to a single opponent!!
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
You should go back and read it again because in your asinine post, you claimed that an employee of the Flyers, Bill stated that the Flyers had tanked. So again, man up and accept the bet.
- MJL


I believe the word I used was "admitted" they tanked. In this case, the admission was implicit, as the words he used were "aiming" to be a "playoff bubble team" while building up "farm"

That is, as I mentioned, is moderated tanking. Just like Detroit was tanking year before when while they kept Larkin and Mantha they also had 9 mil in salary cap space they did not use. Just like Eagles 16th game when they kept Hurts then yanked him for guy who hadn't played for 2 years while the game was still relatively close.

Now, are you going to calm down or are you going to rant like a loon on and on and on like last year like a child who is screaming because someone has given him a wedgie in the sand lot?
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Mar 25 @ 9:54 PM ET
So if Morin doesn’t get suspended and the Rangers don’t address him next game that would be a flyers win.

On a roll baby.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:55 PM ET
This is not about coaching, these players are not playing smart, their D zone coverages are awful, their line changes are awful, they continue to pass-first even when they are down 7-2, my beer league plays better hockey than this. This is completely on the players!
- jd250


It's certainly not just about coaching but the coaches aren't responsible for any of this? The time has come where the coaches have to be given some of the blame. They simply haven't done a good job. The Flyers struggle with man to man coverage in the defensive zone. Are there other ways to play in the D zone? How many times do we have to see a bad line change lead to a goal? There are adjustments to the forecheck scheme that could better position F3. How about a change in the PP scheme?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 25 @ 9:56 PM ET
So if Morin doesn’t get suspended and the Rangers don’t address him next game that would be a flyers win.

On a roll baby.

- wcorvette

For the Flyers, if there is not a 5 on 5 on-ice brawl at the opening puck drop of Saturday, I will be very, very disappointed. They have to push back hard right away, otherwise this team is cooked.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
For the Flyers, if there is not a 5 on 5 on-ice brawl at the opening puck drop of Saturday, I will be very, very disappointed. They have to push back hard right away, otherwise this team is cooked.
- jd250


Does that even happen any more?
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:57 PM ET
Sam was fighting someone tonight
- hereticpride


Lemieux, Rooney and Smith have been taking shots in every game against the Flyers this year. Morin just let them know if he’s playing then they are going to have to answer. You get your doors blown off 2 games in a row, nice to see Morin do his job....not a lot of guys on this team are doing their job very well.
Sam also played a pretty good game to boot. I’ll take him ove Gus or Prosser any night if that’s his game.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
I believe the word I used was "admitted" they tanked. In this case, the admission was implicit, as the words he used were "aiming" to be a "playoff bubble team" while building up "farm"

That is, as I mentioned, is moderated tanking. Just like Detroit was tanking year before when while they kept Larkin and Mantha they also had 9 mil in salary cap space they did not use. Just like Eagles 16th game when they kept Hurts then yanked him for guy who hadn't played for 2 years while the game was still relatively close.

Now, are you going to calm down or are you going to rant like a loon on and on and on like last year like a child who is screaming because someone has given him a wedgie in the sand lot?

- PT21


So in other words you just made it up for your asinine post that since I said I would quit being a Flyers fan if they tanked, that I had to leave HB.

I'm not ranting on. I'm challenging you.

When I get some spare time I'll explain to you why the Eagles did that.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
It's certainly not just about coaching but the coaches aren't responsible for any of this? The time has come where the coaches have to be given some of the blame. They simply haven't done a good job. The Flyers struggle with man to man coverage in the defensive zone. Are there other ways to play in the D zone? How many times do we have to see a bad line change lead to a goal? There are adjustments to the forecheck scheme that could better position F3. How about a change in the PP scheme?
- MJL

But you yourself have said the Flyers have not been able to practice, so besides showing the players video and bringing it to their attention, what else can they do?? You can bench players over and over, but that clearly has not mattered to the younger players, and if AV benches the vets, you know they will check out. The players, starting with the leadership, have to be responsible and alert out there, and they just aren't.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:58 PM ET
So if Morin doesn’t get suspended and the Rangers don’t address him next game that would be a flyers win.

On a roll baby.

- wcorvette


I don't see what he would get suspended for.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 25 @ 9:59 PM ET
For the Flyers, if there is not a 5 on 5 on-ice brawl at the opening puck drop of Saturday, I will be very, very disappointed. They have to push back hard right away, otherwise this team is cooked.
- jd250


No need ...they just have to stand up to them and not back down....be the aggressor.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 9:59 PM ET
A sensitive topic I see. Well I’m just posting to a hockey board during a uncompetitive game how was I to know.
- bird_dog_pa


Nothing sensitive about it.

As to how: by using a minimum modicum of either reading or common sense or memory.

Night night.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
But you yourself have said the Flyers have not been able to practice, so besides showing the players video and bringing it to their attention, what else can they do?? You can bench players over and over, but that clearly has not mattered to the younger players, and if AV benches the vets, you know they will check out. The players, starting with the leadership, have to be responsible and alert out there, and they just aren't.
- jd250


They haven't had much practice but at this point what do you have to lose? Just sit back and magically hope that they get it together as a team defensively? Has there been any indication of that happening other than is small samples only to regress again? What does benching a few players do when it is a team wide issue?
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
Does that even happen any more?
- PT21

No, but it should, starting Saturday afternoon. Look, people can try to remove fighting from the game, but its essential to winning cultures, especially in times like this. The Rangers have no fear of the Flyers, none whatsoever, they are skating out there doing whatever they want. The Flyers cannot let this continue, they need to pummel the Rangers and put the fear of Gad in them. To me its less important to win the game on Saturday, and its more important to beat the hell out of the Rangers physically.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 25 @ 10:01 PM ET
So if Morin doesn’t get suspended and the Rangers don’t address him next game that would be a flyers win.

On a roll baby.

- wcorvette


Suspended? For what ? He even let Lemieux get his gloves off. The day they suspend a guy for that they might as well call it the icecapades.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:02 PM ET
So in other words you just made it up for your asinine post that since I said I would quit being a Flyers fan if they tanked, that I had to leave HB.

I'm not ranting on. I'm challenging you.

When I get some spare time I'll explain to you why the Eagles did that.

- MJL


I was messing with you. Thankfully, you can be relied on to take the bait.

And thanks, no one needs explaining to why the Eagles did that.

https://www.google.com/se...d&q=Eagles+tank+last+game

Night night.
PT21
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 木糠布丁, PA
Joined: 03.04.2008

Mar 25 @ 10:02 PM ET
No, but it should, starting Saturday afternoon. Look, people can try to remove fighting from the game, but its essential to winning cultures, especially in times like this. The Rangers have no fear of the Flyers, none whatsoever, they are skating out there doing whatever they want. The Flyers cannot let this continue, they need to pummel the Rangers and put the fear of Gad in them. To me its less important to win the game on Saturday, and its more important to beat the hell out of the Rangers physically.
- jd250


They better not (frank)ing win.
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