Not fair, PT. They don't know what cheesesteaks are up there. For that matter, not really many other places in the US do, either.
- Letterkenney

Oh yes we do...

I didn't grow up in Chicago. Fandom started in Kentucky. No local team, so it just ended up being my favorite logo in the NHL genesis team select screen, lol. Kinda just stuck w/ it from there.

Nobody in Chicago eats deep dish btw. Main local pie here is thin crust cut into squares.

You wanna know what really sucks? Look up 'Chicago dog'
- Tomahawk

How come an Asian kid even followed the NHL in Kentucky? You should have been into horses or something, no?

Thin crust cut into squares? Like this? http://alicephilly.com/ (place rocks)

And wtf to Chicago Dog. There are so many things wrong here I cannot even begin to describe them:

Incorrect. You are forgetting much. Maybe a memory issue. The Flyers not only were drafting and developing young players, they also had to clean up the salary cap. The traded away players such as Scott Hartnell to clear up the future cap situation. So while they also lacked young developing talent, they also lacked cap space. The bough in short term veterans such as Brian Elliott and Val Fillpula to try and keep the team competitive.

I'm not getting away that easy. You seriously crack me up.




You've hit rock bottom here PT. Honestly you have. The Flyers have never tanked since I've been a fan. No informed employee has admitted that they have tanked. You've really embarrassed yourself here.

You can bet one thing though. If I say I'm leaving, I'll actually leave.
- MJL

Dude, I understand you are agitated and getting hysterical. You have been caught with your pants down.

Tanking is not an all or nothing thing. There are degrees.

If a team is aiming to be a "bubble playoff team" for the purpose of the farm system, they are somewhat tanking. Thats all there is to it. If they weren't somewhat tanking, they would not have traded Hartnell for Umberger.

That's ok though. I thought about it and decided I will let you stay.

If you insist.

Dude, I understand you are agitated and getting hysterical. You have been caught with your pants down.

Tanking is not an all or nothing thing. There are degrees.

If a team is aiming to be a "bubble playoff team" for the purpose of the farm system, they are somewhat tanking. Thats all there is to it. If they weren't somewhat tanking, they would not have traded Hartnell for Umberger.

That's ok though. I thought about it and decided I will let you stay.

If you insist.
- PT21

LOL. I'm neither agitated nor getting hysterical. I actually just feel sorry for you. Tanking is a common phrase used in sports and it certainly doesn't mean a team is trying to remain competitive as a bubble team with the hope of still being able to make the playoffs. There are no degrees. Tanking is tanking. Honestly, as someone who claims to be a scholar and highly educated, this is what you come up with? I pity you.

How come an Asian kid even followed the NHL in Kentucky? You should have been into horses or something, no?
- PT21

Horses, lol. KY is all about that college basketball. UofL vs UK. Cincinnati's the closest major sports town so they tried to shove the Reds and Bengals down our throats, but I don't think anybody was buying it.

Had a cousin from LA (during Gretzky era) that was really into hockey at the time, so it just kinda rubbed off on me.

Thin crust cut into squares? Like this? http://alicephilly.com/ (place rocks)
- PT21

No, like this:


Honestly, I prefer a good foldable NY slice tho. Deep dish is ok, but if you ever come here, go try stuffed pizza from Giordano's. Best casserole you'll ever eat, lol.

And wtf to Chicago Dog. There are so many things wrong here I cannot even begin to describe them
- PT21

Food culture in Chicago is pretty dire, tbh.

Wait, you claiming that's a cheesesteak?
- Tomahawk[/quote

It’s not what we would claim but someone living elsewhere. Like Idaho, California, Japan.

Good to see Morin getting another shot on D. I think if he can get some sheltered minutes and some games under his belt, he could really solidify their PK and 3rd pair.

Does anybody outside of Philly even give cheesesteaks a second thought? It's like an obscure footnote in American cuisine. Way too much pride invested in a simple meat sandwich, lol.


- Tomahawk

Probably better than being proud of simple fries with cheese curds and gravy called poutine! Just sayin

Probably better than being proud of simple fries with cheese curds and gravy called poutine! Just sayin


- Letterkenney

I'm really not Canadian lol.

LOL. I'm neither agitated nor getting hysterical. I actually just feel sorry for you. Tanking is a common phrase used in sports and it certainly doesn't mean a team is trying to remain competitive as a bubble team with the hope of still being able to make the playoffs. There are no degrees. Tanking is tanking. Honestly, as someone who claims to be a scholar and highly educated, this is what you come up with? I pity you.
- MJL

The biggest proof of your discomfort is how you keep adding the phrase competitive.

Here is the thing: they were not aiming to win the cup. They were aiming to be a bubble team.

Why were they not aiming to win the cup? Because they had an eye to build the farm.

No team tanks by trying to lose every game. They tank by not doing everything they can to win. Any team that is not aiming to win the cup a given year for the sake of the draft is tanking to some extent that year. By definition.

Something that was of debate before that dwindled due to injury.

I know chuck had an interesting answer. But who do we see first. Tanner or wade.

My wife says this makes no sense.
- PT21

It's traditional Chinese. Your wife needs to learn real Chinese like on Google Translate.

Wait, you claiming that's a cheesesteak?
- Tomahawk

It's not a cheesesteak... it's blasphemy!

Horses, lol. KY is all about that college basketball. UofL vs UK. Cincinnati's the closest major sports town so they tried to shove the Reds and Bengals down our throats, but I don't think anybody was buying it.

Had a cousin from LA (during Gretzky era) that was really into hockey at the time, so it just kinda rubbed off on me.



No, like this:


Honestly, I prefer a good foldable NY slice tho. Deep dish is ok, but if you ever come here, go try stuffed pizza from Giordano's. Best casserole you'll ever eat, lol.



Food culture in Chicago is pretty dire, tbh.
- Tomahawk

Yeah. Deep dish is literally an open faced Stromboli.

Horses, lol. KY is all about that college basketball. UofL vs UK. Cincinnati's the closest major sports town so they tried to shove the Reds and Bengals down our throats, but I don't think anybody was buying it.

Had a cousin from LA (during Gretzky era) that was really into hockey at the time, so it just kinda rubbed off on me.



No, like this:


Honestly, I prefer a good foldable NY slice tho. Deep dish is ok, but if you ever come here, go try stuffed pizza from Giordano's. Best casserole you'll ever eat, lol.



Food culture in Chicago is pretty dire, tbh.
- Tomahawk

Pfft real pizza has crust stuffed with Seasoned ground beef an cheese. I call it the Taco pizza!

Horses, lol. KY is all about that college basketball. UofL vs UK. Cincinnati's the closest major sports town so they tried to shove the Reds and Bengals down our throats, but I don't think anybody was buying it.

Had a cousin from LA (during Gretzky era) that was really into hockey at the time, so it just kinda rubbed off on me.



No, like this:


Honestly, I prefer a good foldable NY slice tho. Deep dish is ok, but if you ever come here, go try stuffed pizza from Giordano's. Best casserole you'll ever eat, lol.



Food culture in Chicago is pretty dire, tbh.
- Tomahawk

That doesn't look very good either, frankly. It looks generic.

I have trouble believing a town like Chicago doesn't have its own foodie scene. Are you hanging with the right peeps?

Though the first picture of the Chicago Dog, with its artificially colored relish, and fried onion and raw tomatoes and that limp seeded roll and why does that slug of a pepper have those dots in it?

That's the kind of stuff we used to eat in high school when we would go on long drives in winter where you wouldn't want to open the windows.

The biggest proof of your discomfort is how you keep adding the phrase competitive.

Here is the thing: they were not aiming to win the cup. They were aiming to be a bubble team.

Why were they not aiming to win the cup? Because they had an eye to build the farm.

No team tanks by trying to lose every game. They tank by not doing everything they can to win. Any team that is not aiming to win the cup a given year for the sake of the draft is tanking to some extent that year. By definition.
- PT21

Again incorrect. The goal of why they approached the team management as they did was to aim to win the Cup. In order to do so they had to build up the prospect base and improve the cap situation. I keep adding the phrase competitive because it is appropriate. It is a word used many times by Hextall. The team wanted to remain competitive. You're being incredibly small minded.
Tanking is intentionally fielding a non competitive team. The Flyers did not do that. As alluded to earlier, they added some veteran players to help that didn't affect the future. Hextall said repeatedly if he can improve the team without giving up part of the future, he would do so. Which is why he brought in Radko Gudas, Brian Elliott and Val Fillpulla.

To clear it up for you, even tanking teams are doing it to try and win the Cup. That is the goal of every team.
Attempting to remain competitive while building up the prospect base and clearing up the cap is not tanking.
Intentionally fielding a non-competitive team to get a higher draft pick. That is tanking.

As an educated guy that you claim to be. Not that hard to figure out.

No one does grief and grieving like the Scandinavians. Have you seen any of Bergman's movies?

I tend to consider dogs to be superior species to humans, so I might be biased re: dogs.
- PT21

I think I saw a Bergman film in a cinema class. I always think of De Düva (The Dove) when anyone mentions Bergman. It’s a parody of Bergman films made in the late 60s. It’s only 15 minutes or so. I think You can find it on YouTube. I do love a brooding Scandinavian detective show tho.

It's traditional Chinese. Your wife needs to learn real Chinese like on Google Translate.


- Letterkenney

What is "traditional Chinese"? That's a loaded term, my man. I guess you mean Mandarin. But trying saying that in Hong Kong.

I'm really not Canadian lol.
- Tomahawk

Followed the thread. I know that. I was just making the point about Canadian poutine.

I think I saw a Bergman film in a cinema class. I always think of De Düva (The Dove) when anyone mentions Bergman. It’s a parody of Bergman films made in the late 60s. It’s only 15 minutes or so. I think You can find it on YouTube. I do love a brooding Scandinavian detective show tho.
- Dkos

Watch Virgin Spring. Then watch Autumn Sonata.

You may not have appreciated it then, you might now.

Again incorrect. The goal of why they approached the team management as they did was to aim to win the Cup. In order to do so they had to build up the prospect base and improve the cap situation. I keep adding the phrase competitive because it is appropriate. It is a word used many times by Hextall. The team wanted to remain competitive.
Tanking is intentionally fielding a non competitive team. The Flyers did not do that. As alluded to earlier, they added some veteran players to help that didn't affect the future. Hextall said repeatedly if he can improve the team without giving up part of the future, he would do so. Which is why he brought in Radko Gudas, Brian Elliott and Val Fillpulla.
- MJL

No, tanking is intentionally aiming for anything less than the cup for the sake of picks. Period.

No, tanking is intentionally aiming for anything less than the cup for the sake of picks. Period.
- PT21

Nah, that's the just the definition that you invented so it fits your asinine post.

No, tanking is intentionally aiming for anything less than the cup for the sake of picks. Period.
- PT21

PT, you're definition of tanking is completely inaccurate. Just being objective here. MJL has cornered you and now you want to keep debating that which cannot any longer be debated. Take the L and move on, buddy.

That doesn't look very good either, frankly. It looks generic.

I have trouble believing a town like Chicago doesn't have its own foodie scene. Are you hanging with the right peeps?

Though the first picture of the Chicago Dog, with its artificially colored relish, and fried onion and raw tomatoes and that limp seeded roll and why does that slug of a pepper have those dots in it?

That's the kind of stuff we used to eat in high school when we would go on long drives in winter where you wouldn't want to open the windows.
- PT21

Onions are usually raw + dill pickle spear, neon green relish, tomato, hot sport peppers and mustard. And most places will include fries, which they smash into the top of the hot dog and wrap the whole thing in wax paper. It's the nastiest thing ever.

Don't get me wrong... Chicago has a lot of great restaurants, and some notable ethnic enclaves. But as far as true local food culture, it's just a bunch of variations on junk food that were done better before elsewhere.