Don’t care at this point who it is. But make the adjustment as that back door play has worked every time it seems. Myers has been the culprit a bunch but hasn’t been the only one.
- Peter Richards

For sure, I remember several similar goals against with other d-man this season too.

On the goal against... I would like to see the Flyers goalies stop a cross-crease pass for once this season.
- Tomahawk

I would agree.

As much as it pains to say this, Pittsburgh is playing good hockey right now.

For sure, I remember several similar goals against with other d-man this season too.
- NC Flyers Fan

Yea they have allowed the other team to get inside position too easily. Why I’m rooting for Sam. Love the physicality and the swagger it can bring.

As much as it pains to say this, Pittsburgh is playing good hockey right now.
- Buzzo

they got leadership

they got leadership
- 2Real

THANK YOU!

As much as it pains to say this, Pittsburgh is playing good hockey right now.
- Buzzo

THANK YOU!

The game is at 1 you bozo! Typical UFCer. Losers!!!
- Phillywhiteout

Wow! That quickly turned into Michael Douglas in '' Falling Down''.

Relax bud, have a brew or maybe a RNC would calm you down a little ?



''Are you crazy in your head man'' - Classic GSP at 1:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJYqQA2tejY

That's a long line. Couts may be the only NHL worthy guy on this team
- Landsbergfan

JFC

I stated facts, describing exactly what happened on that Ranger PP goal. How is that an overreaction?? Myers puck watched instead of doing what a Defenseman on the PK is supposed to do there. AND I still wonder why Myers (who is obviously struggling to find his game) is out on the PK when Morin is healthy and much more capable. This is a fair second guess!
- jd250

Because you’re on here all day everyday and you sound like a drama queen like PT.

As much as it pains to say this, Pittsburgh is playing good hockey right now.
- Buzzo

Nope. They only beat the Islanders 6-3 with half their forward group out.

Penguins window is closed!!!

The overreaction is stating that Myers has a low hockey IQ. What makes Morin more capable. His extensive experience killing penalties at the NHL level? The numerous NHL games he has played this season. Please don't tell me it's about his physical size. That alone does not make a defenseman a good Pker.
- MJL

Morin has very little NHL experience as you know, but he was drafted in 2013 and is older and more experienced. Myers has physical size and he sucks killing penalties so its not only about size, but its about your willingness to use that size and win puck and position battles. Morin does that, Myers does not. I don't know whether Morin would be this great penalty killer at the NHL level, all I said is I would like to see him killing penalties; I have seen more than enough of Myers this season. But during that PP yesterday, the fact that Myers was too high in the slot when the puck went to the goal line and had his stick pointing to the blue line instead of the goalie is why I said he has low hockey IQ.

Don’t care at this point who it is. But make the adjustment as that back door play has worked every time it seems. Myers has been the culprit a bunch but hasn’t been the only one.
- Peter Richards

Yup, weak side coverage from Myers has been one of many areas Myers just sucks at. The reason why is he gets caught puck watching way too much and drifts too far over to the strong side.

Morin has very little NHL experience as you know, but he was drafted in 2013 and is older and more experienced. Myers has physical size and he sucks killing penalties so its not only about size, but its about your willingness to use that size and win puck and position battles. Morin does that, Myers does not. I don't know whether Morin would be this great penalty killer at the NHL level, all I said is I would like to see him killing penalties; I have seen more than enough of Myers this season. But during that PP yesterday, the fact that Myers was too high in the slot when the puck went to the goal line and had his stick pointing to the blue line instead of the goalie is why I said he has low hockey IQ.
- jd250

Morin is not more experienced. I disagree completely that Myers is unwilling to use his size to win puck battles and position battles. That is completely inaccurate. Myers routinely uses his size to knock players off the puck. Myers issues are about awareness. For example, he just wasn't aware of Zbanejad on the back door. Had nothing to do with not using his size. You're right, you don't know whether Morin would be a great penalty killer. Or even a good one for that matter. You didn't say that you would like to see him killing penalties. You said and I quote" Morin is healthy and much more capable". You don't know that he is more capable. I've seen Sean Couturier multiple times not have his stick positioned properly on the PK. Same for Hayes, Giroux and others. It's not about hockey IQ. It's about awareness and attention to detail and for Myers specifically, gaining experience. Lastly, has Morin practiced with the PK unit? A coach is not likely to play a player on the PK without some practice time.

Morin is not more experienced. I disagree completely that Myers is unwilling to use his size to win puck battles and position battles. That is completely inaccurate. Myers routinely uses his size to knock players off the puck. Myers issues are about awareness. For example, he just wasn't aware of Zbanejad on the back door. Had nothing to do with not using his size. You're right, you don't know whether Morin would be a great penalty killer. Or even a good one for that matter. You didn't say that you would like to see him killing penalties. You said and I quote" Morin is healthy and much more capable". You don't know that he is more capable. I've seen Sean Couturier multiple times not have his stick positioned properly on the PK. Same for Hayes, Giroux and others. It's not about hockey IQ. It's about awareness and attention to detail and for Myers specifically, gaining experience. Lastly, has Morin practiced with the PK unit? A coach is not likely to play a player on the PK without some practice time.
- MJL

No its completely accurate, but don't take my word for it, take AV's word for it, because THAT was the reason Myers was benched a few games ago!

Morin is not more experienced. I disagree completely that Myers is unwilling to use his size to win puck battles and position battles. That is completely inaccurate. Myers routinely uses his size to knock players off the puck. Myers issues are about awareness. For example, he just wasn't aware of Zbanejad on the back door. Had nothing to do with not using his size. You're right, you don't know whether Morin would be a great penalty killer. Or even a good one for that matter. You didn't say that you would like to see him killing penalties. You said and I quote" Morin is healthy and much more capable". You don't know that he is more capable. I've seen Sean Couturier multiple times not have his stick positioned properly on the PK. Same for Hayes, Giroux and others. It's not about hockey IQ. It's about awareness and attention to detail and for Myers specifically, gaining experience. Lastly, has Morin practiced with the PK unit? A coach is not likely to play a player on the PK without some practice time.
- MJL

Im concerned our defensive coaches are asking our d-men to front guys on the PK and it's freight training into a lot of missed backdoor plays. Fronting only works when the whole PK unit is on its toes and is aware of guys sneaking around. It seems Myers and Sanheim start off OK with fronting but they drift about a foot to a foot and a half too high and we get slaughtered.

BTW....Sam was an excellent penalty killer with the Phantoms. That isnt the NHL for sure but he was a key PK guy on the Phantoms and excelled at it. Hopefully he gets some reps in practice and they start to trust him to do it. AV seems like he's big on the going with guys he trusts or rather has experience seeing do it. Maybe Sam can win him over and get some reps....I just think with us needing to win every game he wont get reps unless we have a huge lead.

No its completely accurate, but don't take my word for it, take AV's word for it, because THAT was the reason Myers was benched a few games ago!
- jd250

Yes it is completely inaccurate. Every young player goes through periods where he is not playing as he should. That does not mean that the player never plays as he should. Myers has had periods this year where he was soft on the puck. However that does not mean that he is always soft on the puck.

Morin is not more experienced. I disagree completely that Myers is unwilling to use his size to win puck battles and position battles. That is completely inaccurate. Myers routinely uses his size to knock players off the puck. Myers issues are about awareness. For example, he just wasn't aware of Zbanejad on the back door. Had nothing to do with not using his size. You're right, you don't know whether Morin would be a great penalty killer. Or even a good one for that matter. You didn't say that you would like to see him killing penalties. You said and I quote" Morin is healthy and much more capable". You don't know that he is more capable. I've seen Sean Couturier multiple times not have his stick positioned properly on the PK. Same for Hayes, Giroux and others. It's not about hockey IQ. It's about awareness and attention to detail and for Myers specifically, gaining experience. Lastly, has Morin practiced with the PK unit? A coach is not likely to play a player on the PK without some practice time.
- MJL

I have said since the beginning of the season that Morin at wing was stupid and I would like to see him on the 3rd pairing and killing penalties. Well it took the Flyers coaches a few months to catch up to me, and I suspect it will take them a few more games before Morin is killing penalties.

And yes, when you have poor awareness and don't pay attention to detail after playing hockey your entire life, that by definition is a poor hockey IQ!

Im concerned our defensive coaches are asking our d-men to front guys on the PK and it's freight training into a lot of missed backdoor plays. Fronting only works when the whole PK unit is on its toes and is aware of guys sneaking around. It seems Myers and Sanheim start off OK with fronting but they drift about a foot to a foot and a half too high and we get slaughtered.

BTW....Sam was an excellent penalty killer with the Phantoms. That isnt the NHL for sure but he was a key PK guy on the Phantoms and excelled at it. Hopefully he gets some reps in practice and they start to trust him to do it. AV seems like he's big on the going with guys he trusts or rather has experience seeing do it. Maybe Sam can win him over and get some reps....I just think with us needing to win every game he wont get reps unless we have a huge lead.
- juiced

Excellent post and spot on! Thanks Juiced!

Im concerned our defensive coaches are asking our d-men to front guys on the PK and it's freight training into a lot of missed backdoor plays. Fronting only works when the whole PK unit is on its toes and is aware of guys sneaking around. It seems Myers and Sanheim start off OK with fronting but they drift about a foot to a foot and a half too high and we get slaughtered.


- juiced

I'm not a big fan of fronting either. It has it's pluses and minuses like everything else. I just think it gives the opposition position on rebounds.
If you watch the goal scored by the Rangers PP, there is a mix up with the tandem high forwards on the play. Both Hayes and Laughton head out to the point to cover Fox. Zbanejad was hiding out in the corner. This mix up leaves the high slot uncovered. This leaves Myers between two attackers and the player in front of him in the slot draws his attention. Zbanajad sneaks in back door. I'm not sure it would've mattered because Myers lost awareness but his was not the only mistake. Elliott also could've disrupted the pass.

And yes, when you have poor awareness and don't pay attention to detail after playing hockey your entire life, that by definition is a poor hockey IQ!
- jd250

Nope, that is not the definition of poor hockey IQ. Myers shows a good hockey IQ in many areas of the ice. Stating that he has poor hockey IQ is exactly what it was labeled yesterday. An overreaction.

Don't believe their lies.

We need to be a lottery team.

Don't believe their lies.

We need to be a lottery team.
- DrMidnite

I think the least likely scenario is missing the playoffs and drafting in the 13-16 range.

I think the least likely scenario is missing the playoffs and drafting in the 13-16 range.
- PLindbergh31

I'll take the chance at jumping up to the top 3 rather than going through the playoffs motions.

Likely or not, we need high end talent from somewhere if we refuse to sign/trade for one.

I understand you cannot jump more than ten spots so that means we have to be a bottom ten team.

Nope, that is not the definition of poor hockey IQ. Myers shows a good hockey IQ in many areas of the ice. Stating that he has poor hockey IQ is exactly what it was labeled yesterday. An overreaction.
- MJL

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Wait......,so poor awareness has nothing to do with hockey I. Q.?

My bad. I chalk it up a lot to awareness and anticipation.