https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2021/02/12/all-covid-vaccines-stop-death-severe-illness-column/6709455002/
https://www.dhs.wisconsin...vid-19/vaccine-safety.htm
https://www.health.harvar...ovid-19/covid-19-vaccines

You have a MUCH lower risk of getting it in the first place, and a further MUCH lower risk of getting severely sick/hospitalizing/dying.

I'm not sure of the argument against it because it's slightly possible you may still get sick.
- NewYorkNuck

Not an argument. It is a true statement, take it how you like. But you said it yourself and I have read factual information on this. Lower Risk. Not for sure that you don't get seriously ill. And I am not sure they have enough data to account for the newer strains.

What's in the vaccine? Ask your doc he doesn't know. Don't you have a right to know what goes into your body? The elites that run the world are not your friends and they control everything including the people that follow thier rules.
- Bettmanhatesus

Last time I checked, a vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.

I just noticed we're now in 21st place. Must be an aberration of sorts as I was led to believe games in hand meant nothing.

Last time I checked, a vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.
- bloatedmosquito

Aren't you flying down to Arizona to get a shot?
- NewYorkNuck

Yes. Because our government can’t take care of our citizens.

Last time I checked, a vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious disease. A vaccine typically contains an agent that resembles a disease-causing microorganism and is often made from weakened or killed forms of the microbe, its toxins, or one of its surface proteins.
- bloatedmosquito

These are the types they are using against Covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/coron...ccines/how-they-work.html

Not an argument. It is a true statement, take it how you like. But you said it yourself and I have read factual information on this. Lower Risk. Not for sure that you don't get seriously ill. And I am not sure they have enough data to account for the newer strains.
- SMP8719

I think it's disingenuous to say that having less than a 1% chance to get seriously ill (based off prevention against catching the virus, and then prevention from getting seriously ill) is comparable. There's a percentage risk in anything. Know how effective condoms are? 98%. That means, while having sex with a condom, you'd be more likely to get a girl pregnant than you would be get seriously ill from COVID with a vaccine.

So, yes, there's a very small risk to get seriously ill from COVID. But if you get everyone vaccinated, even with those small percentages you'll stop the spread.

We know you guys from Van Isle just go in the bush and eat some leaf's and berries when you feel ill.
- VanHockeyGuy

You spelt magic mushrooms wrong.

I think it's disingenuous to say that having less than a 1% chance to get seriously ill (based off prevention against catching the virus, and then prevention from getting seriously ill) is comparable. There's a percentage risk in anything. Know how effective condoms are? 98%. That means, while having sex with a condom, you'd be more likely to get a girl pregnant than you would be get seriously ill from COVID with a vaccine.

So, yes, there's a very small risk to get seriously ill from COVID. But if you get everyone vaccinated, even with those small percentages you'll stop the spread.
- NewYorkNuck

Covid Vaccines are at best 95% effective and at worst 66% effective so again don't discount there will still be a risk.

Covid Vaccines are at best 95% effective and at worst 66% effective so again don't discount there will still be a risk.
- SMP8719

So who cares 🤷‍♂️ It is what it is. Get the vaccine or don’t

These are the types they are using against Covid.

https://www.cdc.gov/coron...ccines/how-they-work.html
- SMP8719

Yes. Solid link.

Not an argument. It is a true statement, take it how you like. But you said it yourself and I have read factual information on this. Lower Risk. Not for sure that you don't get seriously ill. And I am not sure they have enough data to account for the newer strains.
- SMP8719

Really not sure how you go from DHS & Harvard summaries of the mRNA vaccines being +/- 95% effective in preventing infection or the decreased transmissibility that has been clinically observed....to what appears to be an assertion that you have lower risk to COVID-19 (which is A corona-virus, not THE corona-virus) without it...but please do make your own determination.


Back to hockey....hope to see better structure and energy from the team after their break. Also hoping to see some moves leading up to the TDL!

Really not sure how you go from DHS & Harvard summaries of the mRNA vaccines being +/- 95% effective in preventing infection or the decreased transmissibility that has been clinically observed....to what appears to be an assertion that you have lower risk to COVID-19 (which is A corona-virus, not THE corona-virus) without it...but please do make your own determination.


Back to hockey....hope to see better structure and energy from the team after their break. Also hoping to see some moves leading up to the TDL!
- SlightlyOffside

Doubtful until there is a new coach in place.

Sell! Sell! Sell!

Covid Vaccines are at best 95% effective and at worst 66% effective so again don't discount there will still be a risk.
- SMP8719

Again, those numbers are for contracting the disease. From the links I sent, they're all pretty much 90+% at preventing death and serious illness.

Here's a good video describing the basics of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A

The odds for someone to get hit by a car (in US anyway) is 1:4300. That's 0.02%. But no one has that constantly hovering on their mind as it's such a small number.

There's a risk in everything. Getting the vaccine will drastically lower that risk, and therefore for me, take a large part of the burden off my mind.

So who cares 🤷‍♂️ It is what it is. Get the vaccine or don’t
- CanuckDon

Get that fact. just people seem to think risk is over when the vaccine rolls out. it isn't.

Again, those numbers are for contracting the disease. From the links I sent, they're all pretty much 90+% at preventing death and serious illness.

Here's a good video describing the basics of that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A

The odds for someone to get hit by a car (in US anyway) is 1:4300. That's 0.02%. But no one has that constantly hovering on their mind as it's such a small number.

There's a risk in everything. Getting the vaccine will drastically lower that risk, and therefore for me, take a large part of the burden off my mind.
- NewYorkNuck

Don't quote youtube.... not even worth the watch lol

- Marwood

I love this “live right” approach and you will be protected. So silly. History can provide context.

Our west coast First Nation brothers and sisters can attest to the devastation cause by a virus that the human body has not seen before. They lived a holistic, active lifestyle with a diet second to none (predominantly fish and berries). Even with a healthy lifestyle they had no chance against smallpox, tuberculosis, scarlet fever, influenza and measles viruses introduced by Europeans.

Link: https://www.ictinc.ca/blo...nations-on-the-west-coast

To suggest that all we have to do is live right is nothing more than ignorant.

You're the first person I've interacted with that's had the Moderna vaccine. I know of people here that had Astrazeneca and reacted poorly but anyone who's taken Pfizer that I know of has been fine.
- golfingsince

He is not the 1st one that you have interacted with, that has had the Moderna vaccine, at least 1 other person here has had that vaccine, because they live in a very vulnerable community and probably doesn't want to say to much about getting the vaccine.

I hope you get an appointment quickly. Only Neem could find outrage in getting vaccinated.
- Marwood

It was a genuine question you sad broken pathetic loser, stick to drugs and music. Leave my name out of your mouth.

I love this “live right” approach and you will be protected. So silly. History can provide context.

Our west coast First Nation brothers and sisters can attest to the devastation cause by a virus that the human body has not seen before. They lived a holistic, active lifestyle with a diet second to none (predominantly fish and berries). Even with a healthy lifestyle they had no chance against smallpox, tuberculosis, scarlet fever, influenza and measles viruses introduced by Europeans.

Link: https://www.ictinc.ca/blo...nations-on-the-west-coast

To suggest that all we have to do is live right is nothing more than ignorant.
- bloatedmosquito

Every time I hear that I think of the parents in Alberta who treated their child who had meningitis with maple syrup & horseradish.

I love this “live right” approach and you will be protected. So silly. History can provide context.

Our west coast First Nation brothers and sisters can attest to the devastation cause by a virus that the human body has not seen before. They lived a holistic, active lifestyle with a diet second to none (predominantly fish and berries). Even with a healthy lifestyle they had no chance against smallpox, tuberculosis, scarlet fever, influenza and measles viruses introduced by Europeans.

Link: https://www.ictinc.ca/blo...nations-on-the-west-coast

To suggest that all we have to do is live right is nothing more than ignorant.
- bloatedmosquito

This is super on point

He is not the 1st one that you have interacted with, that has had the Moderna vaccine, at least 1 other person here has had that vaccine, because they live in a very vulnerable community and probably doesn't want to say to much about getting the vaccine.
- Reubenkincade

Sorry, that I knowingly knew of taking the vaccine.

It was a genuine question you sad broken pathetic loser, stick to drugs and music. Leave my name out of your mouth.
- neem55

Neem, I also enjoy gardening and cooking.

I love this “live right” approach and you will be protected. So silly. History can provide context.

Our west coast First Nation brothers and sisters can attest to the devastation cause by a virus that the human body has not seen before. They lived a holistic, active lifestyle with a diet second to none (predominantly fish and berries). Even with a healthy lifestyle they had no chance against smallpox, tuberculosis, scarlet fever, influenza and measles viruses introduced by Europeans.

Link: https://www.ictinc.ca/blo...nations-on-the-west-coast

To suggest that all we have to do is live right is nothing more than ignorant.
- bloatedmosquito

I am of the mind that eastern medicine is preventative and western medicine is curative. I think far too many people rely on western medicine strictly and would benefit from some knowledge of eastern medicine.

That said, a total reliance on eastern medicine is a disaster waiting to happen.

- VanHockeyGuy

I appreciate holistic medicine but this really made me laugh!😂