Not counting Borgstrom and Reichel, they already have Kane, Kubaleek, Dachass, Hagel, Suter, Kitten, Strome, Connolly, Barratt. Keep him if he plays in the A until he proves he can live up to the family name. Otherwise I’d rather he was exposed moreso than a few others.
- Assman22

Hagel, Suter are not top 6 for a cup contender. Strome is not a wing. Barratt looks like the same asHagel, Suter in upside.

I will add to your list Kurashev (center or wing).

Nylander really doesn’t fit the plan going forward with the emergence of others. Expose him to the draft and go from there.
- Assman22

I wish everybody would get off Nylander's Arse. He's 23 years old and has skills. Allow him time to develop. Again....Patrick Sharp did not score 20 goals and turn into a bonafide NHL player till he was 25. The kid has size and speed and when you have a player that has those 2 components, you give him time to develop. Let's not just cut him loose for nothing. We're not in CUP contention just yet. You've got to give these kids time.

I wish everybody would get off Nylander's Arse. He's 23 years old and has skills. Allow him time to develop. Again....Patrick Sharp did not score 20 goals and turn into a bonafide NHL player till he was 25. The kid has size and speed and when you have a player that has those 2 components, you give him time to develop. Let's not just cut him loose for nothing. We're not in CUP contention just yet. You've got to give these kids time.
- Hawkytalk

It is only because the Hawks traded the great Jokiariju for him. Gives the Stan haters another "talking point" of how bad a GM Stan is.

Bettman Cup Standings (Biggest Loser Pts/games played)

1) 0.615 Sabres
2) 0.732 Sens
3) 0.762 Wings
4) 0.775 Ducks
5) 0.875 Flames
6) 0.895 Jersey
7) 0.905 Jackets
8) 0.946 Canucks
9) 0.947 Kings
10) 1.000 Sharks, Stars, Hawks
13) 1.026 Blues
14) 1.051 Rangers
15) 1.075 Yotes
16) 1.077 Flyers
17) 1.098 Preds
18) 1.162 Canadiens
19) 1.268 Oilers
20) 1.275 Jets
21) 1.297 Bruins
22) 1.300 Pens
23) 1.316 Wild
24) 1.350 Caps
25) 1.366 Panthers
26) 1.368 Knights
27) 1.400 Islanders, Lightning
29) 1.425 Leafs
30) 1.436 Av's
31) 1.462 Canes
- -Doh-

Nice extra effort to include the emoji

Not counting Borgstrom and Reichel, they already have Kane, Kubaleek, Dachass, Hagel, Suter, Kitten, Strome, Connolly, Barratt. Keep him if he plays in the A until he proves he can live up to the family name. Otherwise I’d rather he was exposed moreso than a few others.
- Assman22

Well, I was asking about wings. Dach, Borgstrom, Reichel are projected as centers. Barratt, too, I believe. Strome isn't top six in my book. Kane, Kubalik and Cat for sure. Suter to me is a 3rd liner on a good team. Hagel, too, if he develops scoring touch.

Not sure I'd worry too much about losing him - it depends on what the rest of the Hawks list looks like. But the reason he may get protected is that he COULD provide something the team is a bit short on. A reason he might not be protected is IF he's not putting in max effort in rehab - a team can learn a lot about a guy in these situations. If he's bringing it - especially with breaking down film and learning the game - I'd be inclined to protect him over Strome. But not over Hagel and maybe Kampf.

It is only because the Hawks traded the great Jokiariju for him. Gives the Stan haters another "talking point" of how bad a GM Stan is.
- LAHawk

While I do agree with giving kids time I also think a GM who moves on from a miss is a good thing. If Nylander commits to the rehab and conditioning he gets some leash but it's a short leash. Get lazy, get gone.

Ship out all 3 plus Soda & Jan. Lots of smoke around Chi/Tor. Queafs have absolutely nothing in the prospect pool woof. I’d assume they want to move Kerfoot off the books to open up cap. Picks are about all they have to offer.
- Assman22

Where have you seen any rumors between these two teams?

While I do agree with giving kids time I also think a GM who moves on from a miss is a good thing. If Nylander commits to the rehab and conditioning he gets some leash but it's a short leash. Get lazy, get gone.
- 6628

Totally agree about moving on from a miss. It appeared from the outside last offseason Stan was willing to move on from Strome. Of course, he got Strome by moving on from Schmaltz. He also moved on from The Joker to get Nylander. But sports is littered with GM's hanging on to their picks too long.

Well, I was asking about wings. Dach, Borgstrom, Reichel are projected as centers. Barratt, too, I believe. Strome isn't top six in my book. Kane, Kubalik and Cat for sure. Suter to me is a 3rd liner on a good team. Hagel, too, if he develops scoring touch.

Not sure I'd worry too much about losing him - it depends on what the rest of the Hawks list looks like. But the reason he may get protected is that he COULD provide something the team is a bit short on. A reason he might not be protected is IF he's not putting in max effort in rehab - a team can learn a lot about a guy in these situations. If he's bringing it - especially with breaking down film and learning the game - I'd be inclined to protect him over Strome. But not over Hagel and maybe Kampf.
- mohel

Not necessarily. He's getting time at center with Berlin currently, but not sure where he'll end up at in the NHL.

Well, I was asking about wings. Dach, Borgstrom, Reichel are projected as centers. Barratt, too, I believe. Strome isn't top six in my book. Kane, Kubalik and Cat for sure. Suter to me is a 3rd liner on a good team. Hagel, too, if he develops scoring touch.

Not sure I'd worry too much about losing him - it depends on what the rest of the Hawks list looks like. But the reason he may get protected is that he COULD provide something the team is a bit short on. A reason he might not be protected is IF he's not putting in max effort in rehab - a team can learn a lot about a guy in these situations. If he's bringing it - especially with breaking down film and learning the game - I'd be inclined to protect him over Strome. But not over Hagel and maybe Kampf.
- mohel

I thought Reichel was a winger they were trying at center this year?

Not necessarily. He's getting time at center with Berlin currently, but not sure where he'll end up at in the NHL.
- HawkintheD

I've decided. He is a centre or bust.

Anyway, they're still thin system wide at wing, imo.

I thought Reichel was a winger they were trying at center this year?
- GPHawksfan

Looks that way.

I've decided. He is a centre or bust.

Anyway, they're still thin system wide at wing, imo.
- mohel

Were you the guy who was trying to make Gus a wing too?

Where have you seen any rumors between these two teams?
- GPHawksfan

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- boilermaker100

Cool. Thanks

Since we're talkng about expansion draft protection lists, what about Hawk defensemen. Keith and Murphy are the shoe ins, but who's the 3rd?

After watching Z last night, he can be exposed for all I care. deHaan also isn't worth protecting, but Seattle probably won't take him. Will the new kid Stillman be protected?

Back to Z, his minimum qualifying offer is 3.36M. Will the Hawks just let him go, or QO him and keep him as a placeholder for another year. Or, heaven forbid, extend him to longer term and $$$. Like to see Stillman get in several games down the stretch to see what he has. If he plays with some physicality, maybe Z is expendable.
- boilermaker100

If I am Stan I try to move Z now or before the expansion draft for just about anything. If I cannot do that I do not extend a qualifying offer to Z. I do not protect him. If he signs elsewhere so be it. You gain cap space. The other option is to sign him to a cheaper deal than he is making now. He brings some physicality. But other than that not much else. I would rather bring in another vet on a cheap one year contract who at least plays good fundamental defense.

I wish everybody would get off Nylander's Arse. He's 23 years old and has skills. Allow him time to develop. Again....Patrick Sharp did not score 20 goals and turn into a bonafide NHL player till he was 25. The kid has size and speed and when you have a player that has those 2 components, you give him time to develop. Let's not just cut him loose for nothing. We're not in CUP contention just yet. You've got to give these kids time.
- Hawkytalk

While you make a good point to give the young guys time to adapt to the NHL, Sharp brought with his game elements that you will likely never see from Nylander. And number one is compete level.

And don't worry - Stan seems to have attached personal capital to Nylander - he will be given disproportionate opportunities to succeed. Right now he isn't worth much, so I suspect (1) the Hawks will make him available in the Kraken pool and (2) the Kraken won't take him.

I think weather Z is here or not depends on:

Do they think Stillman is ready next year. My guess is he is going to be playing quite a lot for the remainder of the year to make that observation. Or can they find another big defenseman that they think will be better than Z.

It is obvious that Stan is looking for more size on the back end. That is why he wanted to draft Guhle last year, but the Canadiens picked him one slot above the Hawks getting Reichel.

Shows you how unmarketable Saad was with his $6 mil. contract. Couldn't trade him at the TDL last year, and only netted Z in the off season.
- LAHawk

I would put Keith, Boqvist, Kalynuk, Murphy, Stillman, Beaudin, Mitchell ahead of Zadorov. I would even rather have deHaan at $4.55mil rather than Z at $3.36mil, but just by a whisker. Look at deHaan's cap hit if he is bought out. $950 next year and $1.8mil the following year. That may make him more tradeable now or in the summer.

Were you the guy who was trying to make Gus a wing too?
- HawkintheD

Not that I recall, but anything is possible.

I'm with you. I'd take a 4th or 5th for Soda and a 3rd or 4th at this point for Janmark unless they know they can resign him for around what he currently makes.
- HawkintheD

Why? For that return I’d keep both as protection against injury, Covid protocol, plague, any other reason keeping other Blackhawks from playing.

Third round picks and lower are relatively worthless, IMO - not at all likely to snag an impact player, if the draftee even ever sniffs the Show.

This team is still in the playoff hunt - don’t do anything that costs a future draft pick or prospect, but also don’t sell as cheap as that.

A 2nd for each, nothing less, IMO.

Why? For that return I’d keep both as protection against injury, Covid protocol, plague, any other reason keeping other Blackhawks from playing.

Third round picks and lower are relatively worthless, IMO - not at all likely to snag an impact player, if the draftee even ever sniffs the Show.

This team is still in the playoff hunt - don’t do anything that costs a future draft pick or prospect, but also don’t sell as cheap as that.

A 2nd for each, nothing less, IMO.
- StLBravesFan

Because some return is better than no return.

Shaw was a 5th rounder.

I've decided. He is a centre or bust.

Anyway, they're still thin system wide at wing, imo.
- mohel

It’s spelled CENTER unless you’re Canadian and thankfully you’re not!

Why? For that return I’d keep both as protection against injury, Covid protocol, plague, any other reason keeping other Blackhawks from playing.

Third round picks and lower are relatively worthless, IMO - not at all likely to snag an impact player, if the draftee even ever sniffs the Show.

This team is still in the playoff hunt - don’t do anything that costs a future draft pick or prospect, but also don’t sell as cheap as that.

A 2nd for each, nothing less, IMO.
- StLBravesFan

You aren't getting a 2nd for Soderberg and if you get that for Janmark, take it and run.

They effectively just added depth by picking up Vinnie and Connolly. Soderberg for sure doesn't fit into plans for next year and if Janmark doesn't then trade both.

It would be great to make the playoffs but this is still about beyond this year. More picks equals more kicks at the can.

Hawks are headed to the lottery and at least a top 10 pick. I am ok with that.

Soderberg could well be traded by Monday. If so, I hope they at least get a 3rd round pick. Any lower than that and they should keep him. If he is still here after the TDL he should be in the lineup and on the PP. It is not like we have other centers deserving starts at center.

People on the blog were wanting Connolly not that long ago. It should be interesting to see how he fits in and if he can break out of the doldrums.

I really hope Zadorov is not on the Hawks next year. He is not good at hockey. He is 26 next week. He is not getting better. Let him go and use the cap space on someone else.

Nice article in the Athletic about next years roster. A lot of things could go right. But a lot of things could go wrong too. (Toews, Reichel, Borgstrom, Connolly, young dmen.....)
- -Doh-

Where they should have been last year and I think Soderberg is more like a 7th than a 3rd. 34 year old rental player hanging on on a bad team.

Because some return is better than no return.

Shaw was a 5th rounder.
- mohel

The return I’m suggesting is keeping them as insurance for this season.

How many Shaws are there? The chances of a pick below the 2nd round playing 100 games in the Show is very low. The Hawks are much better off signing underrated FAs from Europe or college.