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StLBravesFan
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Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 9 @ 12:09 PM ET
You aren't getting a 2nd for Soderberg and if you get that for Janmark, take it and run.

They effectively just added depth by picking up Vinnie and Connolly. Soderberg for sure doesn't fit into plans for next year and if Janmark doesn't then trade both.

It would be great to make the playoffs but this is still about beyond this year. More picks equals more kicks at the can.

- HawkintheD

If the “opportunity cost” of keeping them is a 3rd pick or lower, it costs them almost nothing to keep them - and the future impact is minimal.

Vince and Connolly are likely to be playing, not be insurance: where is the protection should they get injured? Highmore? Carpenter?
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 12:10 PM ET
Lebrun is suggesting the Hawks and Leafs are talking about a deal to open up some cap room for Toronto. No specifics.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...toronto-hall-iafallo.html
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:16 PM ET
In addition to the Hawks-Leafs rumor that others have shared, David Pagnotta is reporting that the Leafs, Bruins, and Penguins are interested in Janmark.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:16 PM ET
Why? For that return I’d keep both as protection against injury, Covid protocol, plague, any other reason keeping other Blackhawks from playing.

Third round picks and lower are relatively worthless, IMO - not at all likely to snag an impact player, if the draftee even ever sniffs the Show.

This team is still in the playoff hunt - don’t do anything that costs a future draft pick or prospect, but also don’t sell as cheap as that.

A 2nd for each, nothing less, IMO.

- StLBravesFan

Your, you're, you are funny.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 9 @ 12:17 PM ET
If the “opportunity cost” of keeping them is a 3rd pick or lower, it costs them almost nothing to keep them - and the future impact is minimal.

Vince and Connolly are likely to be playing, not be insurance: where is the protection should they get injured? Highmore? Carpenter?

- StLBravesFan


Soderberg's been a healthy scratch the last what...3 or 4 games?
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:18 PM ET
Lebrun is suggesting the Hawks and Leafs are talking about a deal to open up some cap room for Toronto. No specifics.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...toronto-hall-iafallo.html

- paulr

Obviously we swap Nylanders only we have to keep both.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 9 @ 12:19 PM ET
Where have you seen any rumors between these two teams?
- GPHawksfan

Prohockeyrumors site
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:21 PM ET
Hagel, Suter are not top 6 for a cup contender. Strome is not a wing. Barratt looks like the same asHagel, Suter in upside.

I will add to your list Kurashev (center or wing).

- LAHawk

Basically, the only top 6 in the system is Reichel and it's not like the NHL club is loaded to start.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 9 @ 12:22 PM ET
In addition to the Hawks-Leafs rumor that others have shared, David Pagnotta is reporting that the Leafs, Bruins, and Penguins are interested in Janmark.
- Theo Fox


That's good. A bidding war could develop.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 9 @ 12:23 PM ET
It’s spelled CENTER unless you’re Canadian and thankfully you’re not!
- paulr

You cabin bro?
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 9 @ 12:24 PM ET
That's good. A bidding war could develop.
- boilermaker100

Lol
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
You cabin bro?
- Assman22

If cabin is American for Canadian? Yes I am.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:25 PM ET
That's good. A bidding war could develop.
- boilermaker100

Move that 4th up to a 3rd.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:29 PM ET
The Hogs game on Saturday in Grand Rapids versus the Griffins is postponed. The next game is Tuesday at the iowa Stars.
Angotti
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Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 07.03.2019

Apr 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
If cabin is American for Canadian? Yes I am.
- paulr

That’s a new one to me, but I’m thinking “Cabin” has to be better than some other names that you’ve been called.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:31 PM ET
According to reports, Nikita Gusev (Devlls) is on unconditional waivers with the intent of terminating his contract. He will be available to sign elsewhere (at much lower than his $4.5 cap hit) starting tomorrow but has to sign by Monday to be playoff eligible.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:32 PM ET
The Sabres have claimed Caggiula off of waivers from the Coyotes.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 9 @ 12:35 PM ET
Lebrun is suggesting the Hawks and Leafs are talking about a deal to open up some cap room for Toronto. No specifics.

https://www.prohockeyrumo...toronto-hall-iafallo.html

- paulr

If the Hawks help Toronto at the TDL and it results in the Leafs winning the SC neither one of us would ever forgive Stan Bowman. In fact, IMO that crime would be punishable by execution by firing squad on W. Madison Ave. half hour after the Cup win.



But I guess if he forced Kyle Dumbass to cough up Rasmus Sandin and Nick Robertson in return for the cap space I could along with 6 months on Death Row before execution.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 12:36 PM ET
That’s a new one to me, but I’m thinking “Cabin” has to be better than some other names that you’ve been called.
- Angotti

You obviously know me pretty well to know I get called some terrible names. I’m guessing his autocorrect screwed up?
67hawks
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 9 @ 12:37 PM ET
The Sabres have claimed Caggiula off of waivers from the Coyotes.
- Theo Fox


The guy is a warrior. I feel for Caggs as he gets bounced around the League.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 12:38 PM ET
If the Hawks help Toronto at the TDL and it results in the Leafs winning the SC neither one of us would ever forgive Stan Bowman. In fact, IMO that crime would be punishable by execution by firing squad on W. Madison Ave. half hour after the Cup win.



But I guess if he forced Kyle Dumbass to cough up Rasmus Sandin and Nick Robertson in return for the cap space I could along with 6 months on Death Row before execution.

- RickJ

Three months!

What would be great is to get Robertson and the player the leafs get gets a season ending injury.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 12:45 PM ET
If the Hawks help Toronto at the TDL and it results in the Leafs winning the SC neither one of us would ever forgive Stan Bowman. In fact, IMO that crime would be punishable by execution by firing squad on W. Madison Ave. half hour after the Cup win.



But I guess if he forced Kyle Dumbass to cough up Rasmus Sandin and Nick Robertson in return for the cap space I could along with 6 months on Death Row before execution.

- RickJ

If not a 1st round pick, I'd ask for Sandin, Robertson, or Amirov from the Leafs.

Nick's older brother Jason on the Stars is pretty darn good. He's in the Calder conversation this season.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 9 @ 12:55 PM ET
Totally agree about moving on from a miss. It appeared from the outside last offseason Stan was willing to move on from Strome. Of course, he got Strome by moving on from Schmaltz. He also moved on from The Joker to get Nylander. But sports is littered with GM's hanging on to their picks too long.
- mohel

Bowman was the GM who hung on longest to Rundblad. Bowman willingfully did not hang on too long to Ejdsell.

The newbie center from Florida sounds better than those prospects. Skates better so that matters..Bowman has followed him since his and Mitchell collegiate days together out in Colorado. His reports actually sound encouraging; sounds like he could get into our lineup soon.

My concern was given as: why is he included in this trade if Florida questions his ceiling, since if they like him he isn't dealt ALSO Bowman has been after a big center having traded for Ejdsell and drafted Dach. I saw where criticism laid out as far as putting his game together. I wanted to hear how he was progressing; sounds like he is actually looking better, progressing from an offensive point of reference. Wiz broke it down farther to me personally, so I am on board with this player's acquisition.

As far as Carlsson, please recall I always had him pegged as a complimentary third pair and depth. The fact that he was not bad in any one area, was ready for an NHL challenge and is willing provide a physical brand of performance stood out as the exception to top billed dman Chicago prospects.

And that another GM picks him out over various veterans around the league tells me that NO NOT that he is a great prospect but instead he is not too bad. Until most of the players in the trade develop, Connelly and Carlsson represent the better guys so far in this deal.

There are lots of skill issues to like about Carlsson. There remains how steady he will become at the NHL level. Also quite interesting both Forsling and Carlsson on Florida. If Keith ever approved a trade say to Florida so as to finish his career down there, he could be one representative among three as half their blueline Corp hailing from the Blackhawks!

RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 9 @ 12:56 PM ET
If not a 1st round pick, I'd ask for Sandin, Robertson, or Amirov from the Leafs.

Nick's older brother Jason on the Stars is pretty darn good. He's in the Calder conversation this season.

- Theo Fox

I'm good with Sandin and Robertson. Leafs can keep all of the Communists they have under contract because those guys quit every year about April 15.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:02 PM ET
The guy is a warrior. I feel for Caggs as he gets bounced around the League.
- 67hawks


I don't he's making about a mil per year to play a game. Career earnings north of 5 mil already. Probably have a nice hockey related job in the low 6 figures after he retires (if he wants).

Pro athletes face the same problems everyday people do except they don't have to worry about money problems like most people.

I feel for the guy who made me a potbellys breakfast sandwich this morning prob making $12/hr or less living in Chicago. It was hot as hell in there mix in wearing a mask. Yuck.
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