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mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
It’s spelled CENTER unless you’re Canadian and thankfully you’re not!
- paulr


You (frank)ers would be honored to have me.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
Why? For that return I’d keep both as protection against injury, Covid protocol, plague, any other reason keeping other Blackhawks from playing.

Third round picks and lower are relatively worthless, IMO - not at all likely to snag an impact player, if the draftee even ever sniffs the Show.

This team is still in the playoff hunt - don’t do anything that costs a future draft pick or prospect, but also don’t sell as cheap as that.

A 2nd for each, nothing less, IMO.

- StLBravesFan


This year is different because of COVID Get as many draft picks as possible. You might draft someone that you like that hasn't been scouted that heavy, because the team (league) hasn't played or played much or the scouts haven't seen enough of.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Apr 9 @ 1:04 PM ET
Hagel, Suter are not top 6 for a cup contender. Strome is not a wing. Barratt looks like the same asHagel, Suter in upside.

I will add to your list Kurashev (center or wing).

- LAHawk

I disagree about Hagel. While I think he would be best on the third line, I think he could easily be top 6 on most teams. Without going back to look at his stats, when they moved him up to play with Kane and Kubalik, I believe he was averaging more than a half a point per game. He is a pretty decent playmaker, and he excels at puck retrieval.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:05 PM ET
If not a 1st round pick, I'd ask for Sandin, Robertson, or Amirov from the Leafs.

Nick's older brother Jason on the Stars is pretty darn good. He's in the Calder conversation this season.

- Theo Fox


I like how Stan is trying to acquire younger stay at home physical D-men. Front office realizes they need 1 or 2 to mix in with all the young offensive minded D prospects.

Zadarov seems to be meh at best. Stillman might not be anything but if Stan is able to find a stay at home physical type that is young and can be a 4 or 5 that will be a huge find and a major piece to the rebuild.

A minute eater you can throw out against big top line who will be solid on the PK.

mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:10 PM ET
The return I’m suggesting is keeping them as insurance for this season.

How many Shaws are there? The chances of a pick below the 2nd round playing 100 games in the Show is very low. The Hawks are much better off signing underrated FAs from Europe or college.

- StLBravesFan


The chances of Soda or Janmark being meaningful players on the next good Hawks team are near zero.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 9 @ 1:12 PM ET
The chances of Soda or Janmark being meaningful players on the next good Hawks team are near zero.
- mohel

I never said they would be.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 9 @ 1:13 PM ET
I'm good with Sandin and Robertson. Leafs can keep all of the Communists they have under contract because those guys quit every year about April 15.
- RickJ


If Leafs want to create some cap space they may want to move Kerfoot 2x 3.5M after this year, to get a D or F or whatever they need.

So Kerfoot and a 2nd for a contract in return. Maybe a Highmore, Quenneville, Reese Johnson type that the Leafs can bury.

Or how about expanding the trade... send Nylander to unite the brothers for Robertson.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 1:15 PM ET
You (frank)ers would be honored to have me.
- mohel

Why would Canada need a cranky, old, sarcastic, Blackhawk cheering bastage like you?
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
In addition to the Hawks-Leafs rumor that others have shared, David Pagnotta is reporting that the Leafs, Bruins, and Penguins are interested in Janmark.
- Theo Fox

Janmark to B’s for their 3rd at best. Pens and Queafs don’t have a 3rd rounder this year.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 1:17 PM ET
If Leafs want to create some cap space they may want to move Kerfoot 2x 3.5M after this year, to get a D or F or whatever they need.

So Kerfoot and a 2nd for a contract in return. Maybe a Highmore, Quenneville, Reese Johnson type that the Leafs can bury.

Or how about expanding the trade... send Nylander to unite the brothers for Robertson.

- boilermaker100

To move Kerfoot and his contract the leafs would need to include something to make it worthwhile for the hawks.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:18 PM ET
I never said they would be.
- StLBravesFan


Which means their only value to the Hawks is whatever their market value is now.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 9 @ 1:19 PM ET
Why would Canada need a cranky, old, sarcastic, Blackhawk cheering bastage like you?
- paulr


Good point. One probably is enough.....
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Apr 9 @ 1:20 PM ET
If Leafs want to create some cap space they may want to move Kerfoot 2x 3.5M after this year, to get a D or F or whatever they need.

So Kerfoot and a 2nd for a contract in return. Maybe a Highmore, Quenneville, Reese Johnson type that the Leafs can bury.

Or how about expanding the trade... send Nylander to unite the brothers for Robertson.

- boilermaker100

The future is now for the Leafs, they are going for it this year. They want a forward and/or a Dman for depth and probably another goalie. Kerfoot won't go unless they find a better replacement to step into their lineup.

But I am fully confident that they will f$ck up in the playoffs, much to my delight.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 9 @ 1:23 PM ET
To move Kerfoot and his contract the leafs would need to include something to make it worthwhile for the hawks.
- paulr


Like I said, a 2nd comes along with Kerfoot. Hawks send a B or C prospect back to keep the amount of ontracts even.
FeatheredFinn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Tampere
Joined: 11.30.2014

Apr 9 @ 1:24 PM ET
Since we're talkng about expansion draft protection lists, what about Hawk defensemen. Keith and Murphy are the shoe ins, but who's the 3rd?

After watching Z last night, he can be exposed for all I care. deHaan also isn't worth protecting, but Seattle probably won't take him. Will the new kid Stillman be protected?

Back to Z, his minimum qualifying offer is 3.36M. Will the Hawks just let him go, or QO him and keep him as a placeholder for another year. Or, heaven forbid, extend him to longer term and $$$. Like to see Stillman get in several games down the stretch to see what he has. If he plays with some physicality, maybe Z is expendable.

- boilermaker100


I am increasingly ok of him being traded. Just not worth the money and I cant see him getting much better at anything. Shame cause I do lova his attitude but I guess that and the physicality could be had for less dollars.
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 9 @ 1:27 PM ET
The future is now for the Leafs, they are going for it this year. They want a forward and/or a Dman for depth and probably another goalie. Kerfoot won't go unless they find a better replacement to step into their lineup.

But I am fully confident that they will f$ck up in the playoffs, much to my delight.

- RickJ


Here's an example.. Maybr they want Hall. Buffalo retains 4M, costing the Leafs 4M. Kerfoot is moved to create 3.5M cap space to fit Hall in.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 1:30 PM ET
I like how Stan is trying to acquire younger stay at home physical D-men. Front office realizes they need 1 or 2 to mix in with all the young offensive minded D prospects.

Zadarov seems to be meh at best. Stillman might not be anything but if Stan is able to find a stay at home physical type that is young and can be a 4 or 5 that will be a huge find and a major piece to the rebuild.

A minute eater you can throw out against big top line who will be solid on the PK.

- bhawks2241

Vlasic is being developed to fit the bill of what you described. Granted, he's a few years away but at least there's a homegrown prospect in the system.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
Reports out that Connolly and Stillman will be available to play in the next series in Columbus. Connolly will wear #20, Stillman will wear #61 like his dad Cory.

Chad Yetman presently wears #61 for the Hogs but he's been back and forth between Rockford and Indy the past several weeks. Changing numbers for a player on an AHL deal shouldn't be a problem.
FeatheredFinn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Tampere
Joined: 11.30.2014

Apr 9 @ 1:35 PM ET
I'm with you. I'd take a 4th or 5th for Soda and a 3rd or 4th at this point for Janmark unless they know they can resign him for around what he currently makes.
- HawkintheD


I`ve grown colder towards Janmark as the season has progressed and his plus/minus is worst on the team...I´d cut him loose aka trading him.
Assman22
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: San Francisco, CA
Joined: 04.13.2012

Apr 9 @ 1:44 PM ET
If cabin is American for Canadian? Yes I am.
- paulr

It’s from the TC blogger days. Back when Mohel was obsessed with one Tom Wilson 😂
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 9 @ 2:02 PM ET
It’s from the TC blogger days. Back when Mohel was obsessed with one Tom Wilson 😂
- Assman22


Not I. Not a hater, but someone else always did the heart emojis for him.
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Good point. One probably is enough.....
- mohel


In doses
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 9 @ 2:03 PM ET
Good point. One probably is enough.....
- mohel


In doses
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 9 @ 2:08 PM ET
Bowman was the GM who hung on longest to Rundblad. Bowman willingfully did not hang on too long to Ejdsell.

The newbie center from Florida sounds better than those prospects. Skates better so that matters..Bowman has followed him since his and Mitchell collegiate days together out in Colorado. His reports actually sound encouraging; sounds like he could get into our lineup soon.

My concern was given as: why is he included in this trade if Florida questions his ceiling, since if they like him he isn't dealt ALSO Bowman has been after a big center having traded for Ejdsell and drafted Dach. I saw where criticism laid out as far as putting his game together. I wanted to hear how he was progressing; sounds like he is actually looking better, progressing from an offensive point of reference. Wiz broke it down farther to me personally, so I am on board with this player's acquisition.

As far as Carlsson, please recall I always had him pegged as a complimentary third pair and depth. The fact that he was not bad in any one area, was ready for an NHL challenge and is willing provide a physical brand of performance stood out as the exception to top billed dman Chicago prospects.

And that another GM picks him out over various veterans around the league tells me that NO NOT that he is a great prospect but instead he is not too bad. Until most of the players in the trade develop, Connelly and Carlsson represent the better guys so far in this deal.

There are lots of skill issues to like about Carlsson. There remains how steady he will become at the NHL level. Also quite interesting both Forsling and Carlsson on Florida. If Keith ever approved a trade say to Florida so as to finish his career down there, he could be one representative among three as half their blueline Corp hailing from the Blackhawks!


- jhawk59


Why are we talking about Ejdsell?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Apr 9 @ 2:13 PM ET
I like how Stan is trying to acquire younger stay at home physical D-men. Front office realizes they need 1 or 2 to mix in with all the young offensive minded D prospects.

Zadarov seems to be meh at best. Stillman might not be anything but if Stan is able to find a stay at home physical type that is young and can be a 4 or 5 that will be a huge find and a major piece to the rebuild.

A minute eater you can throw out against big top line who will be solid on the PK.

- bhawks2241

You mean like a Murphy?
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