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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 9 @ 2:14 PM ET
Listened to Shane Malloy (prospects nalysit for NHL Radio). He said Borgstrom was rushed by Florida, and should of spent more time on the AHL team (especially if they were going to slot him immediately as a top 6 center). He said he has size, can skate, has hockey sense, and now that he is 23 should be ready for the NHL.
bhawks2241
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.17.2013

Apr 9 @ 2:23 PM ET
You mean like a Murphy?
- Angotti


He's 28. Will he be the same guy in 3-4 years when the young puck movers are ready for prime time?
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Apr 9 @ 2:30 PM ET
I’m okay if Janmark, Soderberg, Connelly, Highmore, and de Haan, are all traded, I’m also okay with Zadorov going, just want a decent return. Zadorov would be a good 5 or 6 @ $2.5M if you have Keith, Seabrook, Oduya, and Hammer in their prime, otherwise get what you can for him. If we run into Covid or injuries, then you bring up guys from the Rock, it is what it is.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

Apr 9 @ 2:31 PM ET
Why are we talking about Ejdsell?
- NamedSources

We all love to beat a dead horse on this board...
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 2:37 PM ET
Bowman was the GM who hung on longest to Rundblad. Bowman willingfully did not hang on too long to Ejdsell.

The newbie center from Florida sounds better than those prospects. Skates better so that matters..Bowman has followed him since his and Mitchell collegiate days together out in Colorado. His reports actually sound encouraging; sounds like he could get into our lineup soon.

My concern was given as: why is he included in this trade if Florida questions his ceiling, since if they like him he isn't dealt ALSO Bowman has been after a big center having traded for Ejdsell and drafted Dach. I saw where criticism laid out as far as putting his game together. I wanted to hear how he was progressing; sounds like he is actually looking better, progressing from an offensive point of reference. Wiz broke it down farther to me personally, so I am on board with this player's acquisition.

As far as Carlsson, please recall I always had him pegged as a complimentary third pair and depth. The fact that he was not bad in any one area, was ready for an NHL challenge and is willing provide a physical brand of performance stood out as the exception to top billed dman Chicago prospects.

And that another GM picks him out over various veterans around the league tells me that NO NOT that he is a great prospect but instead he is not too bad. Until most of the players in the trade develop, Connelly and Carlsson represent the better guys so far in this deal.

There are lots of skill issues to like about Carlsson. There remains how steady he will become at the NHL level. Also quite interesting both Forsling and Carlsson on Florida. If Keith ever approved a trade say to Florida so as to finish his career down there, he could be one representative among three as half their blueline Corp hailing from the Blackhawks!


- jhawk59


Another way to look at that is only Stan was willing to eat Connolly and it was Carlsson take it or leave it.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 9 @ 2:39 PM ET
Bobby Ryan out for the season, there is one rental trade chip off the board
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 2:42 PM ET
While I do agree with giving kids time I also think a GM who moves on from a miss is a good thing. If Nylander commits to the rehab and conditioning he gets some leash but it's a short leash. Get lazy, get gone.
- 6628

It is a short season and I'm only a TV doctor but I've not heard of meniscus being a serious knee injury?
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 9 @ 2:49 PM ET
We all love to beat a dead horse on this board...
- BGKarras

You need to go back to the original comment about Ejdsell. A blogger mentioned that I should not compare our new center from Florida to him

.Both big lanky centers drafted in round one. I noted the fail on Ejdsell and hoped this latest trade would not be for another center fail. I noted, why does Florida trade a descent #1 round prospect if they still retained high hope for him. They rushed him and now he was not on their AHL team, but back in Finland.

I clearly was looking for input on Borgstrom. Wiz and others on this site have reported how Borgstrom is a descent skater. Compare to Ejdsell who moved slow - I saw him in his NHL debut. Our new center has actually progressed well and. appears to be a good add. Initially Borgstrom raised red flags, which needed to be checked out. Not comparable, after all, to Ejdsell.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Apr 9 @ 2:50 PM ET
Another way to look at that is only Stan was willing to eat Connolly and it was Carlsson take it or leave it.
- rpeters01


Could be. Thanks for pointing that out
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 9 @ 2:56 PM ET
It is a short season and I'm only a TV doctor but I've not heard of meniscus being a serious knee injury?
- rpeters01


Depends on the size of the tear and where it's located. My son tore his during a game and it rolled up into his knee. He was out for 4 months. It was a complete tear.
rpeters01
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Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 9 @ 3:00 PM ET
Depends on the size of the tear and where it's located. My son tore his during a game and it rolled up into his knee. He was out for 4 months. It was a complete tear.
- NamedSources

Good to hear in a bad way hope your son's better!
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Apr 9 @ 3:02 PM ET
You need to go back to the original comment about Ejdsell. A blogger mentioned that I should not compare our new center from Florida to him

.Both big lanky centers drafted in round one. I noted the fail on Ejdsell and hoped this latest trade would not be for another center fail. I noted, why does Florida trade a descent #1 round prospect if they still retained high hope for him. They rushed him and now he was not on their AHL team, but back in Finland.

I clearly was looking for input on Borgstrom. Wiz and others on this site have reported how Borgstrom is a descent skater. Compare to Ejdsell who moved slow - I saw him in his NHL debut. Our new center has actually progressed well and. appears to be a good add. Initially Borgstrom raised red flags, which needed to be checked out. Not comparable, after all, to Ejdsell.

- jhawk59

Ejdsell isn't a center and was never drafted. He was a free agent signing by Nashville.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 9 @ 3:04 PM ET
You need to go back to the original comment about Ejdsell. A blogger mentioned that I should not compare our new center from Florida to him

.Both big lanky centers drafted in round one. I noted the fail on Ejdsell and hoped this latest trade would not be for another center fail. I noted, why does Florida trade a descent #1 round prospect if they still retained high hope for him. They rushed him and now he was not on their AHL team, but back in Finland.

I clearly was looking for input on Borgstrom. Wiz and others on this site have reported how Borgstrom is a descent skater. Compare to Ejdsell who moved slow - I saw him in his NHL debut. Our new center has actually progressed well and. appears to be a good add. Initially Borgstrom raised red flags, which needed to be checked out. Not comparable, after all, to Ejdsell.

- jhawk59


Edjell was signed as a FA,by Nashville, not a #1 draft choice. Florida is in win now mode, and probably liked Borgstrom better than the draft pick they were offering (a #2?). Also a different GM in Florida, has different plan (they are pretty strong at center now).
Finally this does not preclude Stan from making any other deal, retaining salary, etc. You'd think we traded Ray Bourque, what kind of return do you think you were going to get for Carlsson.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 9 @ 3:06 PM ET
Ejdsell isn't a center and was never drafted. He was a free agent signing by Nashville.
- GPHawksfan


Beat me to it GP
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Apr 9 @ 3:09 PM ET
Beat me to it GP
- LAHawk

tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Apr 9 @ 3:11 PM ET
Beat me to it GP
- LAHawk

I was looking it up to be sure.
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 9 @ 3:12 PM ET
Good to hear in a bad way hope your son's better!
- rpeters01


He is doing much better...he did end up having three knee surgeries because of hockey which sadly ended his career. Now he jams on his guitar.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 3:30 PM ET
Good point. One probably is enough.....
- mohel

🖕🏻
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 9 @ 3:32 PM ET
He is doing much better...he did end up having three knee surgeries because of hockey which sadly ended his career. Now he jams on his guitar.
- NamedSources

Should have followed JJ’s recommendations on bulking up.
NamedSources
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The Unnamed
Joined: 06.05.2019

Apr 9 @ 3:49 PM ET
Should have followed JJ’s recommendations on bulking up.
- paulr

LOL..He wanted to bulk up like Kruger!
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 3:53 PM ET
I don't really know the credibility of this person so take it FWIW:

@Account4hockey

CHI has had extension talks with Zadorov but BOS and WPG have checked in on him too.
Theo Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.18.2016

Apr 9 @ 3:54 PM ET
Lots of injuries piling up in the Central Division.

For the Predators: Tolvanen, Fabbro, Forsberg, and Olivier are out with various ailments and different timelines.

For the Jackets: Jenner and Werenski are out for the season.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 9 @ 4:00 PM ET
Lots of injuries piling up in the Central Division.

For the Predators: Tolvanen, Fabbro, Forsberg, and Olivier are out with various ailments and different timelines.

For the Jackets: Jenner and Werenski are out for the season.

- Theo Fox


And Torts out at the end of the season?
boilermaker100
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.23.2015

Apr 9 @ 4:07 PM ET
Lots of injuries piling up in the Central Division.

For the Predators: Tolvanen, Fabbro, Forsberg, and Olivier are out with various ailments and different timelines.

For the Jackets: Jenner and Werenski are out for the season.

- Theo Fox


CBJ supposedly looking for help at C. Maybe Strome will interest them during the offseason.
Don't know what we could get from them in return.
Angotti
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2019

Apr 9 @ 4:13 PM ET
CBJ supposedly looking for help at C. Maybe Strome will interest them during the offseason.
Don't know what we could get from them in return.

- boilermaker100

Laine....
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