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Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

Apr 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
1. Flat cap, no one has any space to do anything.
2. Hall had a NMC
3. Hall, a guy strictly used for offense, didn't provide offense.
4. All insiders had him worth a 3rd round pick.
5. There was a clear bidding war, and it says a lot about Hall's value when this is the return.
6. Bjork is whatever, and Kevyn has a lot of ability to reshape the roster this year.

All this butthurt is simply people lining up at the Peace Bridge because Kevyn didn't get anything for Hall. Your disappointment should be directed at Hall for not actually doing anything. The name recognition far outweighs his real value. Like Staal, who has also been useless, spare an OT goal in his first game.

Hall's performance is more disappointing than what he netted in a trade. Let's also try to keep in mind we gave up nothing to get him and Lazar. Bjork will have a new opportunity under a new coach, and you all should be pretty familiar with what can happen with players under a new coach and system.

Everyone 'giving up' on this franchise because of a (frank)ing trade. So the last ten years didn't do it, but getting a 2nd for Hall did? Grow up.

- TheSabresTaco[
/quote]


As much as I hate this trade, I agree with this.

TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Apr 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
100% this trade today is exactly what Hall is worth. My point is the moment you signed Hall there should have been a trade plan for him when the season started going south, and that was fairly early on. The chances you could have gotten more than this trade I have to imagine would have been a bit higher. We all have our riffs with Darcy but when he traded Vanek in October 2013 it was an absolutely incredible move to be proactive like that. I disagree with you on Staal, 3rd or 4th line center sure, but he thought he could fill the 2nd line.

Right now all Adams has been doing is making "comfortable" moves. Nobody has any idea what the actual vision is for the type of team he is trying to build. Murray was incredibly bad with asset management but we all saw he was attempting to build a more western conference type team.

- buffalokb


What did Staal do in Minnesota that suggested he couldn't handle 2nd line minutes? He absolutely cliff dove.

But you're right. We need to see Kevyn's vision and we need to see a staff. All I'm trying to say is that we should be as mad today as we were yesterday. This trade shouldn't be some catalyst.

With the Vanek thing, yeah, we could have moved him quickly, but there was mutual interest to re-sign him. After it was obvious that he was no where near the player he should have been, we had to get something for him. It just didn't work here, and I commend them for trying. And I don't commend them for much of anything.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
if it was hall for a 2nd straight up we're probably not mad online right

the 4th liner swap is just so weird to take on more salary and term
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
the plus

in moving lazar, you only have 3 4th liners on the roster for next year in girgens, okposo and eakin


so at least the kids should get playing time in 21-22



that's all I got
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
Adams the Snail has a lot of work to do with very little time, help or experience. No reason to think success is a long shot.
- washedup20


If we go with the following 2 bottom lines:

Asplund - Mittelstadt - Thompson
Bjork - Girgensons - Okposo

What that leaves the team with for the top 6 is the following:

Skinner - Eichel - Reinhart
Ruotsalainen - Cozens - Olofsson

That is not nearly good enough.
Fattony1187
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 02.12.2015

Apr 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
Adams so far has been lackluster at best, and that's being kind.
- kingcong39



Has not looked good, that’s for sure. If our bar is he hasn’t looked like a disaster, this franchise has no hope.

If I were teams I would be calling up every minute for Eichel, circling KA like a vulture.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:46 AM ET
if it was hall for a 2nd straight up we're probably not mad online right

the 4th liner swap is just so weird to take on more salary and term

- robz228

hall 2021 2 goals
bjork 2021 2 goals
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:46 AM ET
if it was hall for a 2nd straight up we're probably not mad online right

the 4th liner swap is just so weird to take on more salary and term

- robz228


They had to do the 4th line swap or Boston would be over the cap.

After this trade the Bruins have $29,000 in cap space.

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:47 AM ET
the plus

in moving lazar, you only have 3 4th liners on the roster for next year in girgens, okposo and eakin

so at least the kids should get playing time in 21-22

that's all I got

- homiedclown


Replace Eakin with Bjork as Eakin should never see NHL time again.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 12 @ 8:47 AM ET
If we go with the following 2 bottom lines:

Asplund - Mittelstadt - Thompson
Bjork - Girgensons - Okposo

What that leaves the team with for the top 6 is the following:

Skinner - Eichel - Reinhart
Ruotsalainen - Cozens - Olofsson

That is not nearly good enough.

- kingcong39

You can't say that
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
They had to do the 4th line swap or Boston would be over the cap.

After this trade the Bruins have $29,000 in cap space.

- Stripes77


Sabres also tried to get a 3rd team to retain salary on Hall as well but it didn't work out.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
hall 2021 2 goals
bjork 2021 2 goals

- homiedclown


so, lazar best player in the deal?


They had to do the 4th line swap or Boston would be over the cap.

After this trade the Bruins have $29,000 in cap space.

- Stripes77


yea, im not mad about the trade. nobody could afford him, full NMC, underwhelming results, whole world knew he was being traded

in terms of important moves for the franchise going forward this one was going to be very low no matter what
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
You can't say that
- Buff36


Can't say what?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:48 AM ET
Replace Eakin with Bjork as Eakin should never see NHL time again.
- kingcong39

I am hoping we move miller, ullmark, sheahan reider, and eakin today
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: ICE DIRECTOR SAYS OVER 13 THOUSAND MURDERERS CROSSED OUR BORDER ILLEGALLY OVER THE LAST 4 YEARS, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 12 @ 8:49 AM ET
so, lazar best player in the deal?





- robz228

probably
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:49 AM ET
Sabres also tried to get a 3rd team to retain salary on Hall as well but it didn't work out.
- kingcong39


Probably because they have a GM who nobody respects.
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
They had to do the 4th line swap or Boston would be over the cap.

After this trade the Bruins have $29,000 in cap space.

- Stripes77

great move picking up reilly for more d-help...was having a breakout season in ottawa and is a ufa...worth a look for buffalo but it'll take a premium offer to get him and the sabres aren't in the position to do so both reputation-wise and cap-wise
Lilroot9
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.18.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
if it was hall for a 2nd straight up we're probably not mad online right

the 4th liner swap is just so weird to take on more salary and term

- robz228


Although I agree with you, Bjork was a childhood friend and teammates of Eichel, Rhino should be back!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
so, lazar best player in the deal?




yea, im not mad about the trade. nobody could afford him, full NMC, underwhelming results, whole world knew he was being traded

in terms of important moves for the franchise going forward this one was going to be very low no matter what

- robz228



Agreed

Hall and any team acquiring Hall had all the leverage.

I think we see one more move

I hope they can move Eakin.

Do that and not retain salary and I’ll call this TDL a win.

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
the plus

in moving lazar, you only have 3 4th liners on the roster for next year in girgens, okposo and eakin


so at least the kids should get playing time in 21-22



that's all I got

- homiedclown


If Bjork is not on this team, he costs 800K (or a Lazar contract) against the cap.
robz228
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Apr 12 @ 8:51 AM ET
another thing to consider is hall was a UFA and there was such little interest in him that he signed in buffalo for one year lol

so a player that had no interest in the offseason, then puts up a flop of a season, and we are mad about a poor return

sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Apr 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
They had to do the 4th line swap or Boston would be over the cap.

After this trade the Bruins have $29,000 in cap space.

- Stripes77

Use a broker team like the smart, successful teams are doing
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Apr 12 @ 8:52 AM ET
OMG
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:53 AM ET
anyone know a possible destination for ullmark?
Pairo11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Cancel my subscription to the resurrection.
Joined: 10.15.2007

Apr 12 @ 8:54 AM ET
Where does Caggiula fit in ? I’ve been kinda offline for two weeks while helping Homie with fish down in J-ville?
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