He doesn't have a NTC...yet

Eichel also isn't a pending UFA

Do better
- Stripes77

Superstars are in control not the team.


You can make whatever excuse you want but even if a superstar doesn't have a NTC doesn't mean he still isn't fully in control.

Draft another G with all the picks this year. (frank) draft 2. Should be drafting one every year, even if you have a bonefide number 1
- SDSabre

agreed. one of your 4-6 rounders should go on a goalie every year..

I am slowly leaning in that territory

But I am not trading Jack because he isn't a great player, or not carrying the team to the playoffs

I would be trading Jack for the right package only
- Stripes77

agreed...but i'm not trading jack unless he asks out...he's too important to this team and the development of the younger players behind him

so you're saying they should trade him if the return is at the very least reasonable?
- Michael Pachla

if wowed


nothing more, nothing less


you can ask me in different phrases all you want


any sabre should be had for the right price

not really

you claimed maruk to be a superstar in his first 6 years


his best season that year, puts him where Travis Konecny was last year in the points leader for the nhl
- homiedclown

62
78
71
90
27 (injury, still a PPG)
97



56
57
64
82
78
18 (injury)

First 6 years, each.


Guess who is who. If you're calling Eichel a "superstar", then Dennis Maruk certainly is too. His 7th year he had 60 goals and 136 points. You think Jack is on that pace next year?

You were proven wrong.

So first , 5th and a B prospect and a cap dump.

Actually why whould NYR give up a first at all.

Give up a 2nd and a cap dump for EIchel.

I mean ITS THE ONLY WAY
- ImThatGuy

Eichel isn't a pending UFA...

You are missing that very key point

Apples to freaking potatoes at this point

do the opposite of what the sabres have done since kim and terry bought the team



the exact opposite
- homiedclown

Wow very precise informative information on how to proceed with the hot garbage.

Tell us something we don't know. Retread

I am slowly leaning in that territory

But I am not trading Jack because he isn't a great player, or not carrying the team to the playoffs

I would be trading Jack for the right package only
- Stripes77

But If they dont and the NMC clause kicks in, why would the NYR give up anything of value they Know he has a NMC clause and its been said he wants to be in NY.

3rd, B prospect and a cap Dump.

ITS THE ONLY WAY!
Clearly you can do any better

agreed...but i'm not trading jack unless he asks out..
- Michael Pachla

that's like saying I only buy airline stock the day after a plane crashes though


50 cents on the dollar

Eichel isn't a pending UFA...

You are missing that very key point

Apples to freaking potatoes at this point
- Stripes77

But why would NYR give up anything of value if Eichel has a NMC clause and only wants to play for NY.

Why give up anything more that a mid pick?

Then I guess Boston got totally fleeced because they really didn’t even have to give us a single thing. Hall was only going to Boston (this is totally untrue)


Hall has gone to Arizona, NJ, and Buffalo but really put his foot down this time for Boston. I doubt it
- sbroads24

that actually makes a lot of sense...look at those three franchises as compared to boston

So first , 5th and a B prospect and a cap dump.

Actually why whould NYR give up a first at all.

Give up a 2nd and a cap dump for EIchel.

I mean ITS THE ONLY WAY
- ImThatGuy

Skinner had a NTC and agreed to waive to Buffalo

You will never find anyone in Carolina complaining about only getting Pu and a few picks for a guy who then scored 40 goals because they had their hands tied (you can totally find people complaining about that return)

So first , 5th and a B prospect and a cap dump.

Actually why whould NYR give up a first at all.

Give up a 2nd and a cap dump for EIchel.

I mean ITS THE ONLY WAY
- ImThatGuy

if eichel changed teams 3 previous times and the entire world was baffled at what little return he got, then he was having his career worst year as a pending UFA and would only go to the rangers

then uhhh, ya maybe that would be what you get for him

I am slowly leaning in that territory

But I am not trading Jack because he isn't a great player, or not carrying the team to the playoffs

I would be trading Jack for the right package only
- Stripes77

This

Superstars are in control not the team.


You can make whatever excuse you want but even if a superstar doesn't have a NTC doesn't mean he still isn't fully in control.
- sabresfan69

Hasek said he wouldn't report

Hasek also said he was going to sit out in Buffalo

Much different point in their careers (Hasek and Eichel)

Hasek was also on the last year of his deal I believe

Wow very precise informative information on how to proceed with the hot garbage.

Tell us something we don't know. Retread
- DirtyDan

I can't compete with your 10 weeks of wisdom

So first , 5th and a B prospect and a cap dump.

Actually why whould NYR give up a first at all.

Give up a 2nd and a cap dump for EIchel.

I mean ITS THE ONLY WAY
- ImThatGuy

Apart from this being two different scenarios in one being a 30 year old soon-to-be UFA winger having a poopty healthy season vs a locked in for 5 years center who's having an injured season sure. Is that what you want? You aren't making any points with logic, and just arguing to argue on emotion. So carry on I guess. Living up to the name today.

But why would NYR give up anything of value if Eichel has a NMC clause and only wants to play for NY.

Why give up anything more that a mid pick?
- ImThatGuy

The whole UFA thing keeps slipping your mind doesn't it?

Hall was pushing Adams to do a trade with Boston. So.. there's all your leverage.
- TheSabresTaco

I mentioned this a few days ago.

Hall was spotted at the boston airport. Maybe Wednesday?

2nd round pick is good value.
Probably gonna be a mid 2nd rounder when the bruins get eliminated early

if wowed


nothing more, nothing less


you can ask me in different phrases all you want


any sabre should be had for the right price
- homiedclown

seems as if you're implying he peaked with his "only one great season"...why would anyone wow you if he's not a bona fide superstar?...and aren't you risking a diminishing return as he bounces atop his plateauing, non-playoff production?

Maybe we can get a Nick Foligno return for Eichel this offseason

https://twitter.com/Buffa.../1381631660509265928?s=20

Apart from this being two different scenarios in one being a 30 year old soon-to-be UFA winger having a poopty healthy season vs a locked in for 5 years center who's having an injured season sure. Is that what you want? You aren't making any points with logic, and just arguing to argue on emotion. So carry on I guess. Living up to the name today.
- SDSabre

He is comparing apples to like i said earlier potatoes

No where near the same scenario

just because you bend the knee to kim, doesn't mean I have to
- homiedclown

I'll suck his john if he wants. Best player to come through here since Gilbert. And you want to throw all the blame on him


We've had guys come in who have been MVPS of the LEAGUE and gotten 2 goals. Meanwhile Jack still almost puts up a ppg while having multiple injuries.

He has not been the problem

that's like saying I only buy airline stock the day after a plane crashes though


50 cents on the dollar
- homiedclown

then you keep him for four more seasons, let the kids like cozens, casey and others develop while he shoulders the load and get what the market bears