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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 6:25 PM ET
So with Podkolzin done will he sign? Or is the world championship going to prevent?
- CanuckDon

Under contract until April 30th, or if called up to World Championships the end of May.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 6:28 PM ET
Ya I remember that as well. Would be nice to have a look at him for a few games but it seems unlikely
- CanuckDon

Brendan Batchelor
@BatchHockey
Jim Benning on Podkolzin: He's under contract until April 30th. If he's going to be on the World Championship team for Russia, we won't get him until the end of May. #Canucks
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 12 @ 6:29 PM ET
Ya I remember that as well. Would be nice to have a look at him for a few games but it seems unlikely
- CanuckDon

Why waste a year of his ELC?
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:30 PM ET
This is the most sensible take posted in a long time on these threads.
- NuckUp

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 6:32 PM ET
Sounds like Beagle's positive covid test was a false positive.

10 players showed up today feeling healthy, after the facility was closed for an extra day. 15 more better show up tomorrow otherwise the first game on Friday is going to uglier than expected
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 12 @ 6:32 PM ET
Obvious hyperbole aside, you're right. It's an apples to oranges situation and yes, bad Canadian teams are not high on free agents wishlists aside from maybe a hometown boy wanting to come home. It's not fun being on a bad hockey team under the Canadian microscope.

Meanwhile Tampa is a prime destination for players.

Detroit is a harder sell, great history there but not exactly the best city to live in for a young rich athlete.

- Nucker101


Interesting

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 12 @ 6:33 PM ET
Why waste a year of his ELC?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Playoffs
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 6:34 PM ET
Why waste a year of his ELC?
- A_SteamingLombardi

I personally don’t care about a year on his ELC...more concerned about years of control. I think he will be more prepared if he gets a feel for the NHL this spring and then knows what to work on over the summer. But I certainly understand your perspective
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 6:35 PM ET

- Marwood

Ya that was hilarious
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Apr 12 @ 6:36 PM ET
Ya I remember that as well. Would be nice to have a look at him for a few games but it seems unlikely
- CanuckDon


It would be nice to see him, but would it be worth burning a year of his ELC?
Would most likely be only a few weeks of play...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 12 @ 6:37 PM ET
It would be nice to see him, but would it be worth burning a year of his ELC?
Would most likely be only a few weeks of play...

- SlightlyOffside

Did it woth petey and bb
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 12 @ 6:37 PM ET
I personally don’t care about a year on his ELC...more concerned about years of control. I think he will be more prepared if he gets a feel for the NHL this spring and then knows what to work on over the summer. But I certainly understand your perspective
- CanuckDon

Yeah you're right why should I give a poop I'm on team apathy.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 6:38 PM ET
Did it woth petey and bb
- neem55

Hughes and BB
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 12 @ 6:38 PM ET
Yeah you're right why should I give a poop I'm on team apathy.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Lol there you go. Let’s check back in in two years and see if Bennings plan has worked
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Exactly! Why make it an issue? Especially since the many, many overpaid contracts were actually justified to get players to sign here. The cost of doing business in this market.

Which also means that the mismanagement of the cap isn't actually mismanagement. JB has actually managed the cap magnificently if you factor in the Canadian city surcharge.

- RealityChecker

Totally.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Did it woth petey and bb
- neem55

Gaudette too.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Apr 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Hughes and BB
- CanuckDon

Ph right, i knew it was 2/3. Does kinda show he doesn't mind playing him either way
Reubenkincade
Location: BC
Joined: 11.18.2016

Apr 12 @ 6:40 PM ET
Another former Rocket D! Added with Myers and Edler you guys are rocking. Now trade for Schenn
- K-man25


You mis-spelt Cal Foote.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Apr 12 @ 6:42 PM ET
Lol there you go. Let’s check back in in two years and see if Bennings plan has worked
- CanuckDon

In two years I might be living on the other side of the planet and not giving a poop.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:43 PM ET
In two years I might be living on the other side of the planet and not giving a poop.
- A_SteamingLombardi

You still pondering relocating to Australia?
SlightlyOffside
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Ajax, ON
Joined: 01.25.2016

Apr 12 @ 6:46 PM ET
Did it woth petey and bb
- neem55


Fair, different circumstances

I’m looking forward to seeing him, as I was OJ, EP, BB, Demko and QH...

Just think this is a train wreck of a season and having a potential young star coming in at the end of the season isn’t likely to either sell more season tickets or help the player that much.



1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:48 PM ET
Did it woth petey and bb
- neem55




It was Hughes

I’m not sure, Whitey could probably correct, but I don’t think the team would get the same benefits - arbitration rights and offer sheet protection with an international player like they do with college players leaving school early.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Apr 12 @ 6:49 PM ET
Gaudette too.
- A_SteamingLombardi


Teves, Rafferty
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 12 @ 6:57 PM ET
I personally don’t care about a year on his ELC...more concerned about years of control. I think he will be more prepared if he gets a feel for the NHL this spring and then knows what to work on over the summer. But I certainly understand your perspective
- CanuckDon


Makes thing easier on the future cap problem-that-isn't-a-problem-per-se problem...

I mean, he's playing against men in the KHL. It's a jump in skill for sure, but it's not like he's coming from college or junior.

If they hadn't burned a year of Hughes' deal, they'd still have him on his ELC next year and it'd be a much easier thing to navigate right now. (Though in saying that I know things are different with college guys signing/not signing.)
WhiteLie
Referee
Location: When youre 7 pages behind Dont bother catching up, you will never get that time back - Codes1087
Joined: 07.26.2010

Apr 12 @ 7:00 PM ET


It was Hughes

I’m not sure, Whitey could probably correct, but I don’t think the team would get the same benefits - arbitration rights and offer sheet protection with an international player like they do with college players leaving school early.

- 1970vintage

I think the contractual benefits are the same, but leverage-wise it doesn't matter because international players tend to remain property longer than domestic. The attraction with college guys was to tempt them if they were considering waiting the 4 years to UFA, whereas Podkolzin would still be Canucks rights for comfortably longer so they hold leverage (thinking Kaprizov in Minnesota)

Edit: Kaprizov was younger than I thought, but link here to the contract stuff. Same benefits of earlier UFA and arbitration, etc. https://www.hockeywildern...p-space-fiala-eriksson-ek
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