I am someone who thinks Risto hurts this team with his bonehead plays and he is terrible on transition giving the puck away. I think we could get someone to bite and give us a top 6 in Return. Not going to compare if it will be someone as good as Reinhart. 20 goal scorer with a bit of grit.

As for Reinhart I do feel like we need a veteran top 4 when trading Risto and Reinhart gets us that.
- sabresfan69

So it seems to me that the premise is to trade both of them, and hopefully end up with a pair of players that are overall, combined, more effective than Risto and Reinhart. That's a fair opinion. Don't know how real it is, but it's definitely interesting.

I think if you have a team that's maybe lacking a PPQB and also has the ability to shove him down to the middle/bottom pair, he could be attractive. Said team would also be looking for the Risto intangibles, which are great to be fair. It's that, as everyone knows, he's not good at defense against top half competition, and he's bad at transition. So, could a team take that for 5.4M? Do the Sabres retain 1.4M to make that work to get a guy like, let's say, W Nylander/ Arvidsson/ Mangiapane/ Bjorkstrand? Something to think about.

Not true.

Look at Hasek.
- Powerslave

Using the best goalie of time is not a strong argument.

It's rare now a days that a goalie is a difference maker.

I wonder if the Caps couldn't handle it or just weren't prepared. I mean, those of us who watch the Sabres regularly weren't prepared for that. We'll easily surprise a few teams but they'll catch on.
- Frizzlefry

Could have been, but other than Orlov they are a pretty lumbering defense.

Talking expansion, my new protect list if there aren't trades:
Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart, Bjork, Mitts, Asplund, Tage
Risto (almost chose Borgen, but think he can slip through) Joki, and Dahlin

Expose: Girgs, VO, Miller, and Borgen

See what it would take for Sea to take Girgs, he can be the captain there.
- SDSabre

Ask skinner to waive it. He isn't going to be selected.

Borgen over Risto.

Trade risto before the expansion draft or let him be exposed

Eichel, Reinhart, Mittelstadt, olofsson, bjork, thompson, Asplund

Dahlin, borgen, jokiharju

Damn it Jack, please say we are playing good, I need a text or tweet.
- Buff36

Weren’t you the one who snapped the pic of Jack in the pink pony outfit at his apartment? Asking for a friend

risto leads the team with a plus-9 in the last 10 games at over 23 minutes atoi
- Michael Pachla

It's fools gold

Why? Not even a tweet saying good game boys? How is that weird?
- lulags

He is pretty quiet on social media and doesn't have a twitter

Ask skinner to waive it. He isn't going to be selected.

Borgen over Risto.

Trade risto before the expansion draft or let him be exposed

Eichel, Reinhart, Mittelstadt, olofsson, bjork, thompson, Asplund

Dahlin, borgen, jokiharju
- Mentalorgasm5

I think that damages the relationship with the player. Unless you have a deal in place, don't think it's a good idea to ask a guy to waive his NMC.

Weren’t you the one who snapped the pic of Jack in the pink pony outfit at his apartment? Asking for a friend
- lulags

Have to ask his tandem buddy Rhino about that. Wasn't trying to offend just having fun.

I don't think Jack needs to speak until locker cleanout day. He needs to address his feelings about this franchise.

Glad it doesn't work like that with humans. Hope it works out well.
- Frizzlefry

Thanks fry
We all that one who wouldn't leave before

So it seems to me that the premise is to trade both of them, and hopefully end up with a pair of players that are overall, combined, more effective than Risto and Reinhart. That's a fair opinion. Don't know how real it is, but it's definitely interesting.

I think if you have a team that's maybe lacking a PPQB and also has the ability to shove him down to the middle/bottom pair, he could be attractive. Said team would also be looking for the Risto intangibles, which are great to be fair. It's that, as everyone knows, he's not good at defense against top half competition, and he's bad at transition. So, could a team take that for 5.4M? Do the Sabres retain 1.4M to make that work to get a guy like, let's say, W Nylander/ Arvidsson/ Mangiapane/ Bjorkstrand? Something to think about.
- TheSabresTaco

skunk straight up for m. tkachuk

I think that damages the relationship with the player. Unless you have a deal in place, don't think it's a good idea to ask a guy to waive his NMC.
- TheSabresTaco

Explaining how he isn't going to be selected, and by having him waive it would allow us to "protect 10" forwards, don't see how it would be a problem.

Unless if skinner is a complete idiot.

It's fools gold
- sabresfan69

it's easy to hate on him and it wouldn't bother me at all if he was traded...but i'm starting to think that the clown will be right when he says risto will be extended...



can't wait for the reactions

I don't think Jack needs to speak until locker cleanout day. He needs to address his feelings about this franchise.
- TheSabresTaco

Using the best goalie of time is not a strong argument.

It's rare now a days that a goalie is a difference maker.
- Mentalorgasm5

Translation - good goalies can make a difference.

Explaining how he isn't going to be selected, and by having him waive it would allow us to "protect 10" forwards, don't see how it would be a problem.

Unless if skinner is a complete idiot.
- Mentalorgasm5

Your employer walks up to you and says you're paid too much and we don't want you here, but you can stay I guess.

I bet you'd feel (frank)ing awesome and motivated to work there.

it's easy to hate on him and it wouldn't bother me at all if he was traded...but i'm starting to think that the clown will be right when he says risto will be extended...



can't wait for the reactions
- Michael Pachla

I will give him this, he is the toughest guy on the team.

Translation - Top 50 goalies of all time can make a difference.
- sabresfan69

Fixed

it's easy to hate on him and it wouldn't bother me at all if he was traded...but i'm starting to think that the clown will be right when he says risto will be extended...



can't wait for the reactions
- Michael Pachla

explosions. I can't even conceive paying that man to stay longer. And what if it's more than he makes now? Holy Christ.

I will give him this, he is the toughest guy on the team.
- sabresfan69

I'm being told being a big boy translates to wins.

explosions. I can't even conceive paying that man to stay longer. And what if it's more than he makes now? Holy Christ.
- TheSabresTaco

https://giphy.com/gifs/an...entral-vbQAMgOZchITNGujKN

Why ?
- gerbe75pts

If the Sabres Nor Anaeheim win the lottery and Beniers is gone.

I offer

Sabre First

for

Gibson
Anaheim First
Another piece.



move Ullmarks rights for a 4th to someone.

Using the best goalie of time is not a strong argument.

It's rare now a days that a goalie is a difference maker.
- Mentalorgasm5

hutton made a huge difference

explosions. I can't even conceive paying that man to stay longer. And what if it's more than he makes now? Holy Christ.
- TheSabresTaco

personally i'd like to see him traded and think he's worth mid-six forward or a couple of picks (2nd, 4th) or a mid-upper level prospect...but it kills me when i see him portrayed as less than chopped liver with an expected return of a top-six forward...does not compute