Dont you think Minnesota and most other teams did?

They traded him for Johansson. They dumped him for nothing

I think everyone knew he was cooked and maybe they were just hoping for some leadership for Cozens and Mitts
- sbroads24

I know we've gone round and round on this but everyone other than apparently you loved the trade. In hindsight it was still a worthwhile gamble. We gave up a guy that we didn't care less about to get him and I think we saved on celery to do it.

Dont you think Minnesota and most other teams did?

They traded him for Johansson. They dumped him for nothing

I think everyone knew he was cooked and maybe they were just hoping for some leadership for Cozens and Mitts
- sbroads24

That's the most disappointing part for me. I thought he'd be a great influence. Jesus, was I wrong

I know we've gone round and round on this but everyone other than apparently you loved the trade. In hindsight it was still a worthwhile gamble. We gave up a guy that we didn't care less about to get him and I think we saved on celery to do it.
- Slump Buster

About 1M if memory serves. Also, doubt we get anything for MoJo in a trade, or anything more than we got for Staal is probably better put. So since both guys wouldn't be here next year, both wouldn't have made a difference in the win column, take the better assets coming back from the name of Staal, that's all he's living on anymore.

I know we've gone round and round on this but everyone other than apparently you loved the trade. In hindsight it was still a worthwhile gamble. We gave up a guy that we didn't care less about to get him and I think we saved on celery to do it.
- Slump Buster

Right, but don’t you think If other teams thought he had a lot left they’d have offered more for him?

People loved the trade because the swap seemed like it was too good to be true. It was a red flag from day 1

That's the most disappointing part for me. I thought he'd be a great influence. Jesus, was I wrong
- jcragcrumple

We don't know that he wasn't though. Cozens has "it". But he has looked better as the season went along, so maybe there were some teachings along the way.

Dont you think Minnesota and most other teams did?

They traded him for Johansson. They dumped him for nothing

I think everyone knew he was cooked and maybe they were just hoping for some leadership for Cozens and Mitts
- sbroads24

i think this is accurate. At the very least they got that and kagm landed a couple picks for him which is notable

After the start of the league year, retain half his salary and give a team a 7th round pick to take him. That would be like $1.12m to the other team, which could functionally disappear via waivers for the team taking him if need be. Could just waive him to Roch I guess but I want him away from everything

He's gotta go

Or find a team to just take him if they're dumb enough to do so
- jcragcrumple

Just buy him out

Sure. I just want him as far away from the organization as possible.

I disliked his play from day 1 but watching him do nothing as Dahlin was run made me completely dislike the player. They need to purge the organization of his kind at every level. Tangibles and intangibles, the guy has nothing
- jcragcrumple

Points taken

Right, but don’t you think If other teams thought he had a lot left they’d have offered more for him?

People loved the trade because the swap seemed like it was too good to be true. It was a red flag from day 1
- sbroads24

The trade and the value of the trade was good. The hopes and expectations of getting 2008 Staal were way overboard, myself included.

I know we've gone round and round on this but everyone other than apparently you loved the trade. In hindsight it was still a worthwhile gamble. We gave up a guy that we didn't care less about to get him and I think we saved on celery to do it.
- Slump Buster

I didnt like it eihter.

Disliked it even more after hearing Staals* comments. He's not there mentally and it shows.

Having him as your 2 C option was a bad idea to begin with.

Right, but don’t you think If other teams thought he had a lot left they’d have offered more for him?

People loved the trade because the swap seemed like it was too good to be true. It was a red flag from day 1
- sbroads24

I think the consensus was that teams knew he didn't want to leave Minny and he would have vetoed a trade to them. We weren't on his list.

I don't think it seemed to be too good to be true. As you said, he was a center near the end. Mojo is a good 3rd line winger on a good team. It didn't work out for either team but it isn't like we were trading Mojo for anything of value.

I think it's a fair offer and good for both sides
- Michael Pachla

Pretty sure it was John Madden who once said if you got two goalies, you have none.

Just buy him out
- Powerslave

Cheaper to put him in the minors for a year, from what I read.

I didnt like it eihter.

Disliked it even more after hearing Halls comments. He's not there mentally and it shows.

Having him as your 2 C option was a bad idea to begin with.
- ImThatGuy

It did allow Cozens to get his feet wet on the wing and from what I've heard he and the kid had some good rapport.

Pretty sure it was John Madden who once said if you got two goalies, you have none.
- Hatboro_Swords

Boom!

Cheaper to put him in the minors for a year, from what I read.
- Slump Buster

OK, then!

It's settled.

We're here for you, KAJK!

OK, then!

It's settled.

We're here for you, KAJK!
- Powerslave

The only point with 100% agreement here:

Cody Eakin is bad

It's still pretty amazing that out of the worst stretch in the franchise's history came hope. The one thing I don't hear mentioned around here anymore is blowing it up. You could still trade Jack (which would be stupid) but it wouldn't be part of a rebuild.

Boom!
- Michael Pachla

Dont you think Minnesota and most other teams did?

They traded him for Johansson. They dumped him for nothing

I think everyone knew he was cooked and maybe they were just hoping for some leadership for Cozens and Mitts
- sbroads24

I agree with you, except I think the Sabres were the only team (no pro scouts) who didn’t think he was cooked

I agree with you, except I think the Sabres were the only team (no pro scouts) who didn’t think he was cooked
- lulags

Clearly not. The Canadiens thought they could necromance

Right, but don’t you think If other teams thought he had a lot left they’d have offered more for him?

People loved the trade because the swap seemed like it was too good to be true. It was a red flag from day 1
- sbroads24

It was a worthwhile gamble.

You called a spade a spade though so kudos to you.

I agree with you, except I think the Sabres were the only team (no pro scouts) who didn’t think he was cooked
- lulags

To be fair he had great analytics the year prior.

Even the fancy stats people liked the trade for us.

Only thing was the proverbial age curve, and Sbroads guessed right.

Pavelski is still playing great hockey in Dallas. Unfortunately Staal died this year instead of next year for someone else

Yep
But still wasn’t cheering for them to lose-
Just knew we were going to,
so might as well take advantage of it
Made a few grand
- jdfitz77

Its basically cheering against your team no matter how you cut it. You gotta practice what you preach. Now apologize to pegs and the matter is over.

Its basically cheering against your team no matter how you cut it. You gotta practice what you preach. Now apologize to pegs and the matter is over.
- Camel

No, it’s really not
And idc what u think about it
The end