I think that is coming next, but it is kind of a tough call. Even though the chance of the blood clots is so low, I think they still feel like they need to learn more.
- Aetherial

Ill take the shot IDGAF.

They can't tell me for a year how serious and deadly this virus is and then turn around and say we can't vaccinate people because 5 in a million get a blood clot.

That would be like 80 people in Ontario...How many are going to die from Covid while we wait?

Morgan driving with Tessa
- Canada Cup

Oh damn, missed that completely.

I don't blame him. I bet she could just about rip it off.

It.

She's top-drawer material.

I’m excited about getting it. Didn’t think I would be... at all. Wish the whole family could go at the same time though.
- Woderwick

Congrats Wods.

Oddly, I was too.

My wifey cried after she got it because she was so relieved...she has a high risk situation so she's not a complete emotional nut...well not that way.

A+ entirely correct. Ontario has an inventory of unused supply of 1,212,847 shots at close of business yesterday. Between now and the end of the month they are scheduled to receive an additional 790,000 Pfizer doses, a reduced allotment of 224,000 shots from Moderna and 120,000 single dose vaccines from J and J.

Ontario can immediately ramp up daily jabs by nearly 50% to 150,000 per day. Starting the first week of May, the Pfizer weekly supply for Canada doubles to 2m doses per week. Moderna says it will meet its quarterly numbers and make up the delay and 4.1m Astrazenaca jabs are scheduled for delivery. We don't know the exact number for the J and J quarter but they are committed to deliver 10m single jabs before the end of September. Canada, in total, is projecting 48.5m doses by Canada day.

Most people do not realize that Canada, as a whole, is about 18 days behind the US in hitting a 35% first jab rate.

I believe both the federal and provincial governments have done a pretty good job in playing the hand they were dealt. I think the steam coming off of today is just a little bit of boil over from the frustration of more than 15 months of struggle.

Everybody needs to hang in there. We are much closer to the finishing line than it feels.
- spatso

The only vaccines I'd be interested in are the Sputnik 5 from Russia, or the Covaxin from India.

As a last resort, the Astra Zeneca.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124

Ill take the shot IDGAF.

They can't tell me for a year how serious and deadly this virus is and then turn around and say we can't vaccinate people because 5 in a million get a blood clot.

That would be like 80 people in Ontario...How many are going to die from Covid while we wait?
- Leafs43

Exactly.

I think that is coming next, but it is kind of a tough call. Even though the chance of the blood clots is so low, I think they still feel like they need to learn more.
- Aetherial

I also think it’s easy to mix up the importance of vaccines as an answer to our personal situations and the broader public health problem. Nothing any of the governments could have done on vaccines could have made been a silver bullet against what we’re facing now. Look at Michigan and other US states who have vaccinated twice the % of their population and are in much worse shape.

Our problem is the result of our public health failures, the failure to act in the face of those numbers and projections that everyone has seen coming. Certainly there are people who will end up in ICU who might have been vaccinated but either way, by not acting those ICUs were going to be overrun.

The only vaccines I'd be interested in are the Sputnik 5 from Russia, or the Covaxin from India.

As a last resort, the Astra Zeneca.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124
- MisterBrown

*sarcasm detected*

The only vaccines I'd be interested in are the Sputnik 5 from Russia, or the Covaxin from India.

As a last resort, the Astra Zeneca.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-55748124
- MisterBrown

But you’re a well known idiot

Congrats Wods.

Oddly, I was too.

My wifey cried after she got it because she was so relieved...she has a high risk situation so she's not a complete emotional nut...well not that way.
- Barb34

Mine cried when I booked the appointment. She was sane when we got married

I couldn’t understand why everyone coming out the hospital wasn’t jumping up and down when they came out of the hospital. I was very controlled and dignified and just screamed “yes baby” at my wife who was quite a ways away. She pretended she didn’t know me. She’s quite good at it.
- Canada Cup

LOL. My wife would have been yelling back... something like, “DO THE DISHES!!!”

When she twirls she makes the cutest little swish, kind of like the sound of an opposing forward skating by on a 2 on 1. I think they’re doomed.
- Canada Cup

I love that sound.

*sarcasm detected*
- Barb34

Supposed to be pretty good, from what I read, but ain’t no Sputnik around here. Where did I read that from....hmmmmm can’t seem to recall.

LOL. My wife would have been yelling back... something like, “DO THE DISHES!!!”
- Woderwick

I had all these dumb CC jokes lined up for when I got into the chair for the shot. Instead I just said “Oh that’s a lovely name. I’ve been waiting so long to meet you.”

Congrats Wods.

Oddly, I was too.

My wifey cried after she got it because she was so relieved...she has a high risk situation so she's not a complete emotional nut...well not that way.
- Barb34

Awwwww... yay for your wife, I honestly just teared up a bit reading that. Seriously.

Mine cried when I booked the appointment. She was sane when we got married
- Canada Cup

This I believe

Congrats Wods.

Oddly, I was too.

My wifey cried after she got it because she was so relieved...she has a high risk situation so she's not a complete emotional nut...well not that way.
- Barb34

I also think it’s easy to mix up the importance of vaccines as an answer to our personal situations and the broader public health problem. Nothing any of the governments could have done on vaccines could have made been a silver bullet against what we’re facing now. Look at Michigan and other US states who have vaccinated twice the % of their population and are in much worse shape.

Our problem is the result of our public health failures, the failure to act in the face of those numbers and projections that everyone has seen coming. Certainly there are people who will end up in ICU who might have been vaccinated but either way, by not acting those ICUs were going to be overrun.
- Canada Cup

Yeah agreed

Didn't like the province waiting so long when cases started to rise, and erecting a field hospital at the same time as opening up restrictions on bars and restaurants in the grey zones.

Oh damn, missed that completely.

I don't blame him. I bet she could just about rip it off.

It.

She's top-drawer material.
- Aetherial

Lol

I love her

I had all these dumb CC jokes lined up for when I got into the chair for the shot. Instead I just said “Oh that’s a lovely name. I’ve been waiting so long to meet you.”
- Canada Cup

Hah!

Lol

I love her
- Zezel

Yup, all kinds of hot.

Yeah agreed

Didn't like the province waiting so long when cases started to rise, and erecting a field hospital at the same time as opening up restrictions on bars and restaurants in the grey zones.
- Aetherial

Politicians are losing their poop in Alberta because this government won't take a regional approach to restrictions.

If the mall is closed in one region and open in the next, a lot of people aren't going to just decide to not go the mall. They're going to travel to where it's open. Therefore you have more travel.

Feel like that's part of the problem not solution.

Supposed to be pretty good, from what I read, but ain’t no Sputnik around here. Where did I read that from....hmmmmm can’t seem to recall.
- Woderwick

Thought I read it was bunk or there were problems.... and I was needling him a bit...but really any vaccine that has passed the right scrutiny, TAKE THAT poop.

I kinda want all of us to get back to real life soon.

Awwwww... yay for your wife, I honestly just teared up a bit reading that. Seriously.
- Woderwick

- Aetherial

Thanks fellas!

Sorry but things don’t work that way at all. I spent way too much of my life directly involved in federal provincial relations and I can tell you that provinces do not give up their authority over running health care in their provinces.

The feds transfer money through the Canada Health Act that contains conditions re not opting out of OHIP and a lot of very specific, negotiated arrangements but the feds can’t just unilaterally change those.

In terms of vaccines, the feds have full authority to determine which are approved and have expert panels to make recommendations on priority groups.

Provinces set their own priorities. End of story. Boom. Book it. Additional annoying words.
- Canada Cup

Sorry but you are describing how things work in normal times (or when you worked in or with the government) and not today while we are in a world wide pandemic.

If we have learned anything from today things can unilaterally be changed and the pandemic can be used to validate that change.

Not that it matters at all but I have worked for (and still work for) the provincial government for 20 + years.

I get how politics and government work.

There was no ask to give up anything the provinces had - they didn’t have any vaccines to distribute and the feds are the ones who made that happen.

Regardless I’m just going to agree to disagree with you. You are not going to convince me that the feds could not have dictated who gets it when via who is deemed essential or not and I’m likely not going to convince you that they could.

All good.

Boom.
Boom it.
Agree to disagree.
Go Leafs Go.

But what if the Brits invade?
- gergeswillems

We won't. We have cheap ale and soccer on the telly to keep us occupied now. Besides, last thing we need is to inherit your country with all it's guns, crime, weak beer and talk show hosts.

The 2nd amendment still makes a lot of sense if you restrict it to period weapons. Good luck doing a mass shooting with an 18th century muzzle loaded musket hidden under your coat.