the Province is in great shape
- senstroll

Mush easier to not think and just lay blame along your politicial lines.

You cannot, under any circumstance blame people. This is all the government's fault. ALL the spread has been unavoidable. It is the result of poor provincial government decisions.

Hey... you notice how barely anybody argued with the vaccine roleout, prioritizing by risk of serious infection or death. It made sense.

Until, the variants hit and some young people ended up in the hospital. THEN it was all Ford's fault.

Like I said, no playbook. We all know that science and government is learning as they go, but we still like to blame politicians as if they have perfect knowledge of the future.
- Aetherial

this is what they want you to believe.
putting money into better wifi and 'green energy' sells better to the public, but it's definitely not the better choice from a public point of view.
however, politicians have of course thought about their own pockets and being reelected, and not the best investments with public interest in mind.

phew...dugs on the case
- senstroll

Historically, he has been good at procuring drugs. I don't see what issues you have with this?

Mush easier to not think and just lay blame along your politicial lines.
- Aetherial

Iv thought about it a lot.

You cannot, under any circumstance blame people. This is all the government's fault. ALL the spread has been unavoidable. It is the result of poor provincial government decisions.

Hey... you notice how barely anybody argued with the vaccine roleout, prioritizing by risk of serious infection or death. It made sense.

Until, the variants hit and some young people ended up in the hospital. THEN it was all Ford's fault.

Like I said, no playbook. We all know that science and government is learning as they go, but we still like to blame politicians as if they have perfect knowledge of the future.
- Aetherial

There's plenty of blame to go around. Governments have been juggling lives and optics since the beginning and nobody has taken a hardline stance like, for example, new zealand did. People like to blame the government for not doing so but conveniently complain about the stifling of personal liberties in the same breath.

My personal opinion is that Canada's federal separation of powers is probably the thing to blame here. There's no consistency or central strategy.

phew...dugs on the case
- senstroll

100 B
Nothing for paid sick days.

Ford's fault.

Historically, he has been good at procuring drugs. I don't see what issues you have with this?
- AdamFrench

The issue is he didn't get us any.

Who (frank)ing cares? Boris Johnson is going to step away from solving Covid and hold a special Cabinet meeting on the Super League today. It’s done.
- Canada Cup

Yes, because it's Boris' job to come up with the cure for the Wuhan originated flu. Pray tell how he's supposed to "solve" the CCP virus?

Iv thought about it a lot.
- senstroll

100 years ago, I worked for a germaphobe.

She was crazy about ordering you home if you had the sniffles. And she was so crazy she would tell you not to take it as a sick day - she didn’t want that as a means to discourage you from taking the day off.

Oddly enough, I would sometimes have coughing fits in her office on Thursday afternoons in the summer.
- Atomic Wedgie

I hear a fake cough or sniffle is an excellent method of clearing a crowded elevator these days.

There's plenty of blame to go around. Governments have been juggling lives and optics since the beginning and nobody has taken a hardline stance like, for example, new zealand did. People like to blame the government for not doing so but conveniently complain about the stifling of personal liberties in the same breath.

My personal opinion is that Canada's federal separation of powers is probably the thing to blame here. There's no consistency or central strategy.
- TheMussel

*moves to Japan*

I hear a fake cough or sniffle is an excellent method of clearing a crowded elevator these days.
- winsix

A friend of work has two kids (8 and 6), they got sent home because they were sneezing. Both have huge hay fever.

You cannot, under any circumstance blame people. This is all the government's fault. ALL the spread has been unavoidable. It is the result of poor provincial government decisions.

Hey... you notice how barely anybody argued with the vaccine roleout, prioritizing by risk of serious infection or death. It made sense.

Until, the variants hit and some young people ended up in the hospital. THEN it was all Ford's fault.

Like I said, no playbook. We all know that science and government is learning as they go, but we still like to blame politicians as if they have perfect knowledge of the future.
- Aetherial

It’s hard to say that if Ford had done all the right things that they would have been able to stop the spread of this variant. There is no doubt at all in my mind that he has done a terrible job in the last few months anyway in listening to his medical advisors and taking firm action.

And no that doesn’t make me feel any better.

He’s known what’s coming and he’s known what’s needed to be done and he has responded to too little, too late every time.

I also think we need to separate the discussion of vaccines from the discussion of standard public health measures of closures, etc. There is no way we could be anywhere near enough on vaccines to make a difference right now. Even the States which is over 50% vaccinated is facing higher infection rated and case numbers in some states (last time I checked) then we are. This isn’t politics. This is incompetence.

There's plenty of blame to go around. Governments have been juggling lives and optics since the beginning and nobody has taken a hardline stance like, for example, new zealand did. People like to blame the government for not doing so but conveniently complain about the stifling of personal liberties in the same breath.

My personal opinion is that Canada's federal separation of powers is probably the thing to blame here. There's no consistency or central strategy.
- TheMussel

They've been juggling the lives of small business.
Sure shut us down, but why only us.
Should have shut it all down.

There's plenty of blame to go around. Governments have been juggling lives and optics since the beginning and nobody has taken a hardline stance like, for example, new zealand did. People like to blame the government for not doing so but conveniently complain about the stifling of personal liberties in the same breath.

My personal opinion is that Canada's federal separation of powers is probably the thing to blame here. There's no consistency or central strategy.
- TheMussel

Paid sick days is, apparently, provincial

New Zealand had a great response... Simple geography probably would have meant it could not work here. I also seriously doubt the country's willingness to take those measures.

Airports are, apparently, provincial

You cannot, under any circumstance blame people. This is all the government's fault. ALL the spread has been unavoidable. It is the result of poor provincial government decisions.

Hey... you notice how barely anybody argued with the vaccine roleout, prioritizing by risk of serious infection or death. It made sense.

Until, the variants hit and some young people ended up in the hospital. THEN it was all Ford's fault.

Like I said, no playbook. We all know that science and government is learning as they go, but we still like to blame politicians as if they have perfect knowledge of the future.
- Aetherial

its not even about the vaccine roleout and prioritizing etc..we were never going to be able to vaccinate out of the problems... there was plenty of data and countries that had a head start on what we were about to see happen....the province just needed to listen to the proper advise and experts..all whats going on now was predicted... the anger is over how it was just ignored... and now they just want to play the blame game back and forth...rolling out half assed BS measure (over and over) ..for the past year

everything thats happening was predictable and avoidable.

shame they dont have the authority to stop the countless planes landing just down the road
- drexel

Yeah... but Ford is responsible for that too. Not like someone could have kept the emergency medical stockpile up to date, and the warehouses full. Maybe someone shouldn't have sent all of the PPE to china and then start crying about we don't have any PPE. Then have to pay out the wazoo for it from the people who it was sent to for free and have whatever they send back be substandard.

Let's ask the Cabinet member? He'll give whatever line we're supposed to follow.

Paid sick days is, apparently, provincial

New Zealand had a great response... Simple geography probably would have meant it could not work here. I also seriously doubt the country's willingness to take those measures.

Airports are, apparently, provincial
- Aetherial

Well if the country is collectively not willing to make sacrifices for the benefit of society then we end up with the results we deserve, is all I'm saying.

Well if the country is collectively not willing to make sacrifices for the benefit of society then we end up with the results we deserve, is all I'm saying.
- TheMussel

I'm willing to sacrifice you.

I’m sure the US military could order in a drone strike on a cheating goalie - sure there might be some collateral damage. I’m not talking about the technology. I’m talking about accessibility.

I don’t want some geek in a lab coat deciding goals based on something that we can’t be part of. We can be part of a video review. It’s that simple for me.
- Canada Cup

Cupsie - this is baloney. Cheating is cheating, most sports have adopted a level of sophistication to eliminate cheaters and incorrect calls. Some examples Olympics steroids, Golf chest putters, tennis - line calls, foot faults. There is no reason to avoid change to eliminate the goalies' use of equipment to hide a legitimate goal. Using laser technolgy to display the exact location of the puck on a screen is a way to eliminate this form of cheating

It’s hard to say that if Ford had done all the right things that they would have been able to stop the spread of this variant. There is no doubt at all in my mind that he has done a terrible job in the last few months anyway in listening to his medical advisors and taking firm action.

And no that doesn’t make me feel any better.

He’s known what’s coming and he’s known what’s needed to be done and he has responded to too little, too late every time.

I also think we need to separate the discussion of vaccines from the discussion of standard public health measures of closures, etc. There is no way we could be anywhere near enough on vaccines to make a difference right now. Even the States which is over 50% vaccinated is facing higher infection rated and case numbers in some states (last time I checked) then we are. This isn’t politics. This is incompetence.
- Canada Cup

you forgot the exclamation mark for affectation.

""THIS ISN'T POLITICS! THIS IS INCOMPENTENCE!", the political drone thundered as he slapped ham fistedly into the table. The gathered plebes stepped back in awe as this bureaucrat became enraged."

No one buys your prognostications cuz they are all one way and total bullpoop.

I'm willing to sacrifice you.
- AdamFrench

Fine but only if it saves lives and it's done in a pompous satanic ritual with purple velvet robes and black candles.

It’s hard to say that if Ford had done all the right things that they would have been able to stop the spread of this variant. There is no doubt at all in my mind that he has done a terrible job in the last few months anyway in listening to his medical advisors and taking firm action.

And no that doesn’t make me feel any better.

He’s known what’s coming and he’s known what’s needed to be done and he has responded to too little, too late every time.

I also think we need to separate the discussion of vaccines from the discussion of standard public health measures of closures, etc. There is no way we could be anywhere near enough on vaccines to make a difference right now. Even the States which is over 50% vaccinated is facing higher infection rated and case numbers in some states (last time I checked) then we are. This isn’t politics. This is incompetence.
- Canada Cup

Sure he has known. He also knows the poop he gets on the other side for closing everything.

Pretty convenient that our standing somewhere around 45th in the world in vaccination is somehow NOT a problem, but Ford's decisions are. Wouldn't have made a difference??You know the real world data is showing it does make a difference.

The US has been a poop-show since Day 1, and you still have 200 million people running around unvaccinated and not paying attention to much social distancing and THAT is your argument that more timely arrival of vaccine would not have mattered?

I see very few people here who actually are willing to take a step back and look at the contributing blame towards anything in that aligns with their politics.

you forgot the exclamation mark for affectation.

""THIS ISN'T POLITICS! THIS IS INCOMPENTENCE!", the political drone thundered as he slapped ham fistedly into the table. The gathered plebes stepped back in awe as this bureaucrat became enraged."

No one buys your prognostications cuz they are all one way and total bullpoop.
- MisterBrown

you're such a weirdo

Well if the country is collectively not willing to make sacrifices for the benefit of society then we end up with the results we deserve, is all I'm saying.
- TheMussel

Most business owners can't afford to shut down, they could lose everything that they and their families have, is that worse than covid?
Losing you house I believe would be.