If Columbus makes it known that Jones is available, there's at least a handful of other teams that would have very little trouble putting together a package that is more desirable than anything the Flyers could/would do (within reason).

Doughty surprises me a bit, as he's played on a lot of good teams. The others you mention are prime examples.
- PLindbergh31

Have you seen CBJ play the past few years? Those guys do everything right but just cannot score.

Underoos > Dads
- Tomahawk

I am reading this as underoos over dads, which is somewhat ... unsettling.

I am reading this as underoos over dads, which is somewhat ... unsettling.
- PT21

You're titillated, don't lie.

You're titillated, don't lie.
- Tomahawk

That only happens when I see myself in underoos.

If there are any "whatever it takes" players out there this off season, Dougie Hamilton would be the one who closest resembles that player for me. Roll out the bank truck and adjust where you have to.

I wouldn't have that frame of mind for Jack Eichel.

That only happens when I see myself in underoos.
- PT21

Not surprised.

Not surprised.
- Tomahawk

I actually need to jump up and down to really get the full titillation effect. Hope you don't think I am flip-flopping.

If there are any "whatever it takes" players out there this off season, Dougie Hamilton would be the one who closest resembles that player for me. Roll out the bank truck and adjust where you have to.

I wouldn't have that frame of mind for Jack Eichel.
- MBFlyerfan

hopefully we don't give him like 8 mil a year

hopefully we don't give him like 8 mil a year
- 2Real

Honest question. What would you offer Hamilton? Would you want to sign him at all? Who would you rather have?

Honest question. What would you offer Hamilton? Would you want to sign him at all? Who would you rather have?
- MBFlyerfan

Hamilton is what this team needs. I'd happily pay him $9-10M for whatever years.

He's not what the fans want, however.

I actually need to jump up and down to really get the full titillation effect. Hope you don't think I am flip-flopping.
- PT21

Hamilton is what this team needs. I'd happily pay him $9-10M for whatever years.

He's not what the fans want, however.
- Tomahawk

Which fans?

Please elaborate.

Which fans?

Please elaborate.
- NC Flyers Fan

Your typical Flyers fan wants another Chris Pronger. Dougie Hamilton is not that.

He'll fix the PP, he'll be sublime on breakouts, he'll be a great positional/stick defender and he'll come to play most every night. Basically everything this team really needs.

But you know fans will complain that he's too soft, turns the puck over too much, is a non-entity in the room, etc. Same old complaints we've heard for years levied at Flyers past and present.

Your typical Flyers fan wants another Chris Pronger. Dougie Hamilton is not that.

He'll fix the PP, he'll be sublime on breakouts, he'll be a great positional/stick defender and he'll come to play most every night. Basically everything this team really needs.

But you know fans will complain that he's too soft, turns the puck over too much, a non-entity in the room, etc. Same old complaints we've heard for years levied at Flyers past and present.
- Tomahawk

as long as he stays healthy I am in.... Hard to believe we are going to have to wait till next October for meaningful hockey

We tried to count on unproven D men this year and it was a total disaster. And Provy took a step back as well having to play with Braun. At the very least they need to add a proven top 4 D man imo.

I’d love Eichel. Eichel & Risto would be a great package. I think we’d have to send Coots and TK the other way at the very least to make it work capwise. They aren’t going to take Jake or JVR
- hereticpride

You think Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Shayne Gostisbehere, Robert Hagg and Justin Braun are unproven?

Ocular receptors should be on the blink.

- PT21

Hey, I wasn't hiding that bon mot.
I'm trying to figure out if I should be pleased that it was noted or that I'm angry that I didn't make it more obvious?

The Flyers, IMO, need more than just a complementary piece to Provorov, ala Niskanen. York is completely an unknown quantity as a pro, is rather likely to have some growing pains (as most young defensemen do) at the NHL level. Sanheim and Myers both have significant issues with inconsistency.

As for Eichel, if the Flyers are going to expend major resources on an outside acquisition, I'd rather it be for the top of the blueline.
- bmeltzer

I’d rather not spend on something we already have or expect to develop to. Ivan Provorov has expectations to someday contend for a Norris. High expectations for Sanheim too.

Who is our elite forward moving forward beyond moving from what G was at age 22 to 30?

You think Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Shayne Gostisbehere, Robert Hagg and Justin Braun are unproven?
- SuperSchennBros

Outside of Provy and Braun I think you have no idea what to expect out of those other guys on any given night, yes.

Coming back with this D group next year would be laughable.

- Tomahawk

Wtf are you doing in front of a shelf with condoms and alcohol stacked side by side?

Have you seen CBJ play the past few years? Those guys do everything right but just cannot score.
- PT21

They could use Voracek it sounds.

Full circle Jake! Circle of life.

You think Ivan Provorov, Travis Sanheim, Shayne Gostisbehere, Robert Hagg and Justin Braun are unproven?
- SuperSchennBros

I think you have a case, I think all of the D should be better next season, how could they not be. If they could find the Nisk of 2021 I would be fine with that, I just don't see it. It was lighting in the bottle with Nisk, coming off a down year, he wanted to bounce back and his skillset was perfect for the D core and Provy. Having that happen again is a long shot. They need to compete next season, they need a D, if you can get Dougie, go for it.


The good news, no Flyer improved their contract negotiation status, sign them all now....

Wtf are you doing in front of a shelf with condoms and alcohol stacked side by side?
- PT21

Getting ready to entertain some of your female kinfolk.

I’d rather not spend on something we already have or expect to develop to. Ivan Provorov has expectations to someday contend for a Norris. High expectations for Sanheim too.

Who is our elite forward moving forward beyond moving from what G was at age 22 to 30?
- SuperSchennBros

Do you mean "had" not sure many feel the same about him after watching him this year.

Getting ready to entertain some of your female kinfolk.
- Tomahawk

Oh very good. I will inform my 80 year old mom.