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ScotsonFire
Calgary Flames
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.18.2013

Apr 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
The Flames screwed his development. But he also failed to claim a spot. And only showing up for maybe 15 games a year does not cut it.

It sucks it did not work out and watching him thrive hurts.

BUT,

Flames could be dodging a bullet. He could get a lot more money next year and not be anything as good as 18-year-old Sam Bennett ever was.

Time will tell. Until then let's just be happy that change is coming.

- DuranDuran


Bennett from day one should have been placed on the wing with Backlund. In order to learn Backlund’s shutdown game. I think the problem was drafting Bennett with no plan.
And playing him with brower and Neal
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:12 PM ET
The Flames screwed his development. But he also failed to claim a spot. And only showing up for maybe 15 games a year does not cut it.

It sucks it did not work out and watching him thrive hurts.

BUT,

Flames could be dodging a bullet. He could get a lot more money next year and not be anything as good as 18-year-old Sam Bennett ever was.

Time will tell. Until then let's just be happy that change is coming.

- DuranDuran


Change may be coming, but what change? People calling for retool, some for rebuild. I wanna see a full heart transplant.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 21 @ 5:13 PM ET
Bennett from day one should have been placed on the wing with Backlund. In order to learn Backlund’s shutdown game. I think the problem was drafting Bennett with no plan.
And playing him with brower and Neal

- ScotsonFire

He should have gone back to junior, played in the WJ and allowed to succeed.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 21 @ 6:02 PM ET
Don’t think it’s an over reaction at all. I think it’s hilarious that the man in charge has had 7 years in to build this team. I’m not going to suggest who should stay or who should go, I’ll leave that for others, but if Treliving doesn’t know who the fuking problem in the dressing room is, then he’s not doing his job.
It doesn’t matter who, no team wins with drama going down and that’s the first thing that needs fixing.

- K-man25


LMAO - so we're all of a sudden thinking that Sam is point per game player because he was misused here? He's had so many chances over the years, and a guy that ONLY shows up for the playoffs is basically useless in terms of getting there.

The fact that he could intentionally dial it up for the playoffs should tell that it was never a linemate thing, an opportunity thing or anything other than Sam not putting in the effort.

He's on a quick little hot streak here. Let the high of the trade wear off and see where he's at in game 42 next year.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 21 @ 6:03 PM ET
He should have gone back to junior, played in the WJ and allowed to succeed.
- K-man25


His best season as an NHLer was his first.
Ol_Boy_Wop
Calgary Flames
Joined: 08.24.2011

Apr 21 @ 6:22 PM ET
LMAO - so we're all of a sudden thinking that Sam is point per game player because he was misused here? He's had so many chances over the years, and a guy that ONLY shows up for the playoffs is basically useless in terms of getting there.

The fact that he could intentionally dial it up for the playoffs should tell that it was never a linemate thing, an opportunity thing or anything other than Sam not putting in the effort.

He's on a quick little hot streak here. Let the high of the trade wear off and see where he's at in game 42 next year.

- rmull905

I’m with you. I’m glad to see the guy having success but we’ve seen what a motivated Bennett can do and he’s motivated right now. He definitely wasn’t with the Flames.
tincup
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 07.21.2006

Apr 21 @ 7:19 PM ET
I’m with you. I’m glad to see the guy having success but we’ve seen what a motivated Bennett can do and he’s motivated right now. He definitely wasn’t with the Flames.
- Ol_Boy_Wop


Yeah, I'm guessing the adrenaline is pumping for Sam right now. Wish him the best but after watching him for 400 games, I've seen enough. Happy with what they got for him. I do agree with the criticism of Treliving though. He doesn't seem to be able to assess what this team needs and he's signed way too many players who end up getting bought out. Not sure I'd can him but he needs someone else who is better at assessing players.
DEDDIE
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary
Joined: 01.08.2019

Apr 21 @ 10:29 PM ET
Don’t think it’s an over reaction at all. I think it’s hilarious that the man in charge has had 7 years in to build this team. I’m not going to suggest who should stay or who should go, I’ll leave that for others, but if Treliving doesn’t know who the fuking problem in the dressing room is, then he’s not doing his job.
It doesn’t matter who, no team wins with drama going down and that’s the first thing that needs fixing.

- K-man25

The verdict is out on Tre and he may or not be back next year but I do believe he and many other GM's would have made significant changes last off season had the pandemic not prevented hockey trades for all intents and purposes.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 4:49 PM ET
The verdict is out on Tre and he may or not be back next year but I do believe he and many other GM's would have made significant changes last off season had the pandemic not prevented hockey trades for all intents and purposes.
- DEDDIE


I don’t see the cheap owners firing him this year. He was just resigned last year but I do think if we don’t see an improvement next year, he’ll be gone.
He’s got his work cut out for him and there’s still a pandemic, so he better figure it out.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
LMAO - so we're all of a sudden thinking that Sam is point per game player because he was misused here? He's had so many chances over the years, and a guy that ONLY shows up for the playoffs is basically useless in terms of getting there.

The fact that he could intentionally dial it up for the playoffs should tell that it was never a linemate thing, an opportunity thing or anything other than Sam not putting in the effort.

He's on a quick little hot streak here. Let the high of the trade wear off and see where he's at in game 42 next year.

- rmull905


I see reading comprehension isn’t your strong spot, go back and reread my post again, but this time take your time and let it sink in.. It was about Treliving’s failure not weather I or anyone else think Sammy is a point/ game player.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: Sayulita
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 22 @ 4:52 PM ET
Yeah, I'm guessing the adrenaline is pumping for Sam right now. Wish him the best but after watching him for 400 games, I've seen enough. Happy with what they got for him. I do agree with the criticism of Treliving though. He doesn't seem to be able to assess what this team needs and he's signed way too many players who end up getting bought out. Not sure I'd can him but he needs someone else who is better at assessing players.
- tincuzp

rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 22 @ 5:56 PM ET
I see reading comprehension isn’t your strong spot, go back and reread my post again, but this time take your time and let it sink in.. It was about Treliving’s failure not weather I or anyone else think Sammy is a point/ game player.
- K-man25


LMAO - I might make the same recommendation to you...

- I wrote that I found it hilarious that people were overreacting to Sam's performance in 3 games
- You changed the conversation to Treliving for some reason?
- I re-centered the conversation to my original point.

My reading comprehension isn't at issue - I chose to re-direct the conversation to my original point and also reiterate (between the lines) that this isn't a Treliving or organizational issue... it's a Sam thing.

Your conversational diversion was a weird one that made no sense in context with my original post
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

Apr 23 @ 8:14 AM ET
LMAO - I might make the same recommendation to you...

- I wrote that I found it hilarious that people were overreacting to Sam's performance in 3 games
- You changed the conversation to Treliving for some reason?
- I re-centered the conversation to my original point.

My reading comprehension isn't at issue - I chose to re-direct the conversation to my original point and also reiterate (between the lines) that this isn't a Treliving or organizational issue... it's a Sam thing.

Your conversational diversion was a weird one that made no sense in context with my original post

- rmull905


Don't worry, Kman knows best. Hence why his running around trolling and chirping other teams when his team is suffering thru a bad season. He knows his team and their prospect depth will be fine right away. Its just a one off.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Apr 23 @ 11:37 AM ET

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rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 12:30 PM ET
I’m with you. I’m glad to see the guy having success but we’ve seen what a motivated Bennett can do and he’s motivated right now. He definitely wasn’t with the Flames.
- Ol_Boy_Wop


Next few games should be interesting, he had over 21 minutes last night on 26 shifts. Q is giving him a lot of rope right now
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 23 @ 1:03 PM ET
Stick a fork in em, Flames are done.
- scubasteve


They were done a month ago.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 23 @ 1:09 PM ET
Next few games should be interesting, he had over 21 minutes last night on 26 shifts. Q is giving him a lot of rope right now
- rmull905


Q seems to love him. Not sure why he saw so much ice time. Didn't really do anything.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Apr 23 @ 2:25 PM ET
Don't worry, Kman knows best. Hence why his running around trolling and chirping other teams when his team is suffering thru a bad season. He knows his team and their prospect depth will be fine right away. Its just a one off.
- wreckage


Ruzicka is pretty sick. Emilio Peterson too. Had lots of good picks lately. Kuznetzov looks great. Pelletier is great. I’m saying all this to myself really because I know you’re dumb as (frank) and not going to listen anyway.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Apr 23 @ 3:10 PM ET
LMAO - so we're all of a sudden thinking that Sam is point per game player because he was misused here? He's had so many chances over the years, and a guy that ONLY shows up for the playoffs is basically useless in terms of getting there.

The fact that he could intentionally dial it up for the playoffs should tell that it was never a linemate thing, an opportunity thing or anything other than Sam not putting in the effort.

He's on a quick little hot streak here. Let the high of the trade wear off and see where he's at in game 42 next year.

- rmull905


Amen.
Glad someone else says it how it is. I'd also add that there's possibly truth around the notion that Gaudreau ALSO doesn't try, when he gets split from Monahan. Others said it too - but that glare he gave Sean and Gaudreau when he was on their line and scored - really said everything.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Apr 23 @ 3:15 PM ET
Bennett from day one should have been placed on the wing with Backlund. In order to learn Backlund’s shutdown game. I think the problem was drafting Bennett with no plan.
And playing him with brower and Neal

- ScotsonFire


Arguably - I think Backlund created issues, especially when it comes to how Bennett was used. It's too tempting for a coach to put Backlund in as #2C - but that deprived Bennett a chance to grow and satisfy Sam's ego of being a 4th overall pick. And it's not like Backlund's ever going to drive a team to the finals

I think he was pissed off at Tkachuk too, because Tkachuk would butter up Backlund all the time - what happened there? Tkachuk was accommodated on the 2nd line with Backlund, Bennett suffers and gets shoved down to the 3rd/4th lines, Tkachuk gets a monster contract - yeah, I could imagine Sam was pissed off about that too.

So by the time they ended up pairing Sam with 13,23, or 19 - he very possibly held grudges against them.
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Apr 23 @ 3:20 PM ET
It's becoming pretty clear that Bennett was not properly developed or utilized throughout his time in Calgary. No wonder he was frustrated and wanted out. Can't be a high end pick with a lot of talent who's constantly saddled with lining up with plugs and expect to perform at a high level. That eats away at confidence and then we see the results we've been seeing for the past 6 years. Now, with some talented linemates and so faith by coaching staff, Sam is getting more ice time, more looks, more touches, and he's producing. Best of luck, Sam. You will be missed.
- WrySatyr


That's a pretty outrageous comment - it's established that Sam didn't try on purpose, so I don't know what planet you're on, saying you're going to miss a player who tried only when it personally suited him
eastcanadAREaholes
Calgary Flames
Joined: 09.28.2020

Apr 23 @ 3:36 PM ET
I think the trick is, condensing your 1st round picks in strong back to back draft years, that you'd hypothetically get for Monahan, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Gaudreau, Andersson, Markstrom - that would give you 7-9 first round draft picks (incl CGY's picks) that grow together, can't run away as UFAs; overcomes the fact Calgary isn't a hot destination for UFAs, yet leaves money on the table to sign a good UFA if you're lucky, and add quality to 3rd/4th lines.

Letting Brodie walk - huge mistake. Letting Gio wilt his was into retirement - huge mistake. Players like that should be traded while they have value - and instead of "taking a run at it" - we should have a conservative, thought out goal, of accumulating high 1st round draft picks - and condensing them within 2-3 high quality drafts.

We should also prioritize trading good players, who are closest to becoming UFAs - and that starts with Gaudreau, then Monahan. And we shouldn't be afraid to trade away players in their prime, to keep the cycle going. Places like Calgary, Buffalo - they need to be factories for developing good young players, then trading them before they become UFAs
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 3:44 PM ET
Q seems to love him. Not sure why he saw so much ice time. Didn't really do anything.
- BINGO!


I think he's testing him and Q is apparently known to ride the hot hand, which Bennett was leading into that game.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 23 @ 3:51 PM ET
Arguably - I think Backlund created issues, especially when it comes to how Bennett was used. It's too tempting for a coach to put Backlund in as #2C - but that deprived Bennett a chance to grow and satisfy Sam's ego of being a 4th overall pick. And it's not like Backlund's ever going to drive a team to the finals

I think he was pissed off at Tkachuk too, because Tkachuk would butter up Backlund all the time - what happened there? Tkachuk was accommodated on the 2nd line with Backlund, Bennett suffers and gets shoved down to the 3rd/4th lines, Tkachuk gets a monster contract - yeah, I could imagine Sam was pissed off about that too.

So by the time they ended up pairing Sam with 13,23, or 19 - he very possibly held grudges against them.

- eastcanadAREaholes



OR, and hear me out here...

Bennett is just not all that good.
rmull905
Calgary Flames
Joined: 02.27.2007

Apr 23 @ 4:06 PM ET
Arguably - I think Backlund created issues, especially when it comes to how Bennett was used. It's too tempting for a coach to put Backlund in as #2C - but that deprived Bennett a chance to grow and satisfy Sam's ego of being a 4th overall pick. And it's not like Backlund's ever going to drive a team to the finals

I think he was pissed off at Tkachuk too, because Tkachuk would butter up Backlund all the time - what happened there? Tkachuk was accommodated on the 2nd line with Backlund, Bennett suffers and gets shoved down to the 3rd/4th lines, Tkachuk gets a monster contract - yeah, I could imagine Sam was pissed off about that too.

So by the time they ended up pairing Sam with 13,23, or 19 - he very possibly held grudges against them.

- eastcanadAREaholes


Tkachuk came in and immediately showed a mature defensive side of his game, and with Frolik, that was one of the best shutdown lines in hockey... that could still score. Bennett has never been strong defensively - this is where I do agree that another year of Jr might have firmed that up. I don't think it had anything to do with Chucky buttering anyone up, he was (and is) a better all around player.
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