Dion Phaneuf and Rasmus Ristolainen: good fantasy defensemen, bad on ice defensemen. Get over it.
- TheSabresTaco

Get over yourself. You've turned into a more arrogant southern version of flaccoville.

Engineers see black and white, there is always a gray area.

😐

Ok Boss, you and Girgelson taking a break from your sausage fest, or are you the taker this time around.
- Buff36

Know you really got me. Are Sabres our really good know? Weak sauce fluff36.

Get over yourself. You've turned into a more arrogant southern version of flaccoville.

Engineers see black and white, there is always a gray area.

😐
- Boss34

Arrogant? I'll play along. How so?

What particular aspect of his play do you see with your eyes that leads to a disagreement with those said numbers ?
- Pegullaville

AGAIN.... what are the numbers you’re looking at to determine this???
How am i supposed to explain why i disagree with a number if idk what you’re looking at?

What are the stats u guys are using?

What do you think the return is? A second? I'd be fine with that.
- Slump Buster

I'd ask for someone like Iafallo.

I think that's fair.

(just my opinion, not knowing what other GMs think of him)

AGAIN.... what are the numbers you’re looking at to determine this???
How am i supposed to explain why i disagree with a number if idk what you’re looking at?

What are the stats u guys are using?
- jdfitz77

I mean there are several analytical measures. The two that are most referenced on here though are.

CF%: analyzes the amount of chances the player is on the ice for and against.

xG % Analyzes the amount of expected goals that the player is on the ice for and against.

Risto scores very low in both (meaning more chances and expected goals against than for)

I'd ask for someone like Iafallo.

I think that's fair.

(just my opinion, not knowing what other GMs think of him)
- Powerslave

Agreed, but it couldn't be him because they just signed him. That would look really bad and I don't ever recall that being done in any sport.

https://sabrenoise.com/20...os-hiring-impacts-sabres/
Hopefully they got it right this time around

I'd ask for someone like Iafallo.

I think that's fair.

(just my opinion, not knowing what other GMs think of him)
- Powerslave

Just signed him to a decent contract

I mean there are several analytical measures. The two that are most referenced on here though are.

CF%: analyzes the amount of chances the player is on the ice for and against.

xG % Analyzes the amount of expected goals that the player is on the ice for and against.

Risto scores very low in both (meaning more chances and expected goals against than for)
- Pegullaville

It’s literally everything

He’s bad at transition offense, he’s bad at letting teams enter the zone. He’s bad at preventing scoring chances, shots, goals.

He also doesn’t generate or move the needle in shots, chances and goals for

He’s bad

I'd ask for someone like Iafallo.

I think that's fair.

(just my opinion, not knowing what other GMs think of him)
- Powerslave

Makes sense
Iafallo last 4 seasons 127 points
Risto last 4 seasons 131 points

AGAIN.... what are the numbers you’re looking at to determine this???
How am i supposed to explain why i disagree with a number if idk what you’re looking at?

What are the stats u guys are using?
- jdfitz77

Just signed him to a decent contract
- Buff36

Right, I know, was just thinking a player similar. Should've been more specific. High middle six player. Idk.

Makes sense
Iafallo last 4 seasons 127 points
Risto last 4 seasons 131 points
- Boss34

This is a good troll

Get over yourself. You've turned into a more arrogant southern version of flaccoville.

Engineers see black and white, there is always a gray area.

😐
- Boss34

The fantasy league scores points for hits and blocked shots.

A player that has a high number of blocked shots and hits must also spend a lot of time in their own zone as both of those attributes require not having puck possession, as if one had the puck they would not be hitting nor blocking shots.

Therefore, Risto is a good fantasy league player because of the fact he is getting Taco points for those respective categories. This does not exactly correlate with him being a good d-man however because we get out chanced and our scored when he is on the ice.

Right, I know, was just thinking a player similar. Should've been more specific. High middle six player. Idk.
- Powerslave

No I agree, just was saying they signed him to a decent contract.

I mean there are several analytical measures. The two that are most referenced on here though are.

CF%: analyzes the amount of chances the player is on the ice for and against.

xG % Analyzes the amount of expected goals that the player is on the ice for and against.

Risto scores very low in both (meaning more chances and expected goals against than for)
- Pegullaville

Wouldn’t u expect those numbers to be low for a guy who’s:
1- on a terrible team
2- playing the most minutes
3- against the toughest competition

The fantasy league scores points for hits and blocked shots.

A player that has a high number of blocked shots and hits must also spend a lot of time in their own zone as both of those attributes require not having puck possession, as if one had the puck they would not be hitting nor blocking shots.

Therefore, Risto is a good fantasy league player because of the fact he is getting Taco points for those respective categories. This does not exactly correlate with him being a good d-man however because we get out chanced and our scored when he is on the ice.
- Pegullaville

To follow up on this, last night one of the stats guys on twitter noted that there were 24 shots against with Risto on the ice and only a handful for (I forget the exact number). He had 6 blocked shots which sound impressive in a vacuum but it's a terrible number in context.

Wouldn’t u expect those numbers to be low for a guy who’s:
1- on a terrible team
2- playing the most minutes
3- against the toughest competition
- jdfitz77

I don't think it is any coincidence that Granato comes in and lets the kids play as much or (now) more than he does and the team no longer looks like it is underwater. There needs to be a divorce here, for us and for him.

Wouldn’t u expect those numbers to be low for a guy who’s:
1- on a terrible team
2- playing the most minutes
3- against the toughest competition
- jdfitz77

2 and 3 aren’t true anymore and his results are getting worse

Hes not good.

Wouldn’t u expect those numbers to be low for a guy who’s:
1- on a terrible team
2- playing the most minutes
3- against the toughest competition
- jdfitz77

I mean yeah that's part of the problem. The other part is, even with lesser competition, as shown last night, he's still bad. If you look at his base analytics from 2017-2018, he had the best season of his career because he was actually utilized at least somewhat properly. Extremely heavy offensive deployment.

I'm partially satisfied that I was gone for four hours and this silly Ristolainen poop continues.

This is a good troll
- TheSabresTaco

This is a good example of showing an offensive attitude of superiority :

2 and 3 aren’t true anymore and his results are getting worse

Hes not good.
- sbroads24

Those are also very recent developments, correct?
And u coincidentally (or not) avoided the question....

Wouldn’t those numbers be low for just about any defenseman who plays top pairing minutes against the toughest competition when on terrible teams for the overwhelming majority of his career???

This is a good example of showing an offensive attitude of superiority :
- Boss34

Please explain.