- buffalofan19

Eph Ralf!

- buffalofan19

Ahhh, a classic.

Do tell why?
I like McCabe as well, and Iike what I have seen from Borgen's short stint here.

McCabes injured knee is no joke though. For that reason, I would look to a shorter term with him.
Also, they play opposite sides, the bigger issue to me is what to do with Risto. He isn't good enough for 1st pairing, and too expensive for 3rd pairing, while Joker should be a 2nd pairing and Borgen a 3rd. Issue is finding Dalin's partner on 1st pairing to turn him loose.
- IonSabres

I don't need some 5 year deal for Jake. Two or three would be great. But he's shown to be a high quality defensive defenseman who can help anchor a young core. Bryson is... well he's not good at defense. He has waiver eligibility. So send him down for another year, use as a primary callup with Samuelsson.

Dahlin-Joker
McCabe-X
Bryson/X-Borgen
Larry

See what you can get for Risto and Miller.

I honestly don't see any wrong choice out of the 3 I believe all of them will be successful in their own way
- gerbe75pts

How about Lysell (sp). Reading up on him, he seems like an Adams type guy...relentless, good 2 way player with speed, playmaker and can score..RWer a position of need as well.

Ok
- Buff36

Think you missed the joke.

Ya know, kicking your adult children out of the house, yelling at them to get a job..

I don't need some 5 year deal for Jake. Two or three would be great. But he's shown to be a high quality defensive defenseman who can help anchor a young core. Bryson is... well he's not good at defense. He has waiver eligibility. So send him down for another year, use as a primary callup with Samuelsson.

Dahlin-Joker
McCabe-X
Bryson/X-Borgen
Larry

See what you can get for Risto and Miller.
- TheSabresTaco

I'd love to see 1 reason to keep Mccabe

I don't need some 5 year deal for Jake. Two or three would be great. But he's shown to be a high quality defensive defenseman who can help anchor a young core. Bryson is... well he's not good at defense. He has waiver eligibility. So send him down for another year, use as a primary callup with Samuelsson.

Dahlin-Joker
McCabe-X
Bryson/X-Borgen
Larry

See what you can get for Risto and Miller.
- TheSabresTaco

The problem is that you don't want him blocking other guys that are on the way up. I believe Samuelson is a LHD.

Eph Ralf!
- Powerslave

larkin 22 points in 2021
reinhart 30 points

it's easy to find blah d men that put up 13 points a year, injury prone, and not very good in their own end


for those that hate the girgens contract, giving mccabe anything for 2.5 mil a year would be just as bad
- homiedclown

How are you determining this?
Stats, player comments, and coaches seem to rate him rather solidly defensively

The problem is that you don't want him blocking other guys that are on the way up. I believe Samuelson is a LHD.
- Slump Buster

this

How about Lysell (sp). Reading up on him, he seems like an Adams type guy...relentless, good 2 way player with speed, playmaker and can score..RWer a position of need as well.
- IonSabres

I think if we drafted around 6-8, he'd be a great snag.

Think you missed the joke.

Ya know, kicking your adult children out of the house, yelling at them to get a job..
- TheSabresTaco

Got it, that's what my Daughter said to me when I told her she needed to find a job at school cause I wasn't gonna keep giving her money all the time. OK Dad

How are you determining this?
Stats, player comments, and coaches seem to rate him rather solidly defensively
- IonSabres

my eyes



75 percent of the risto "blunders" is due to mccabe being out of position

mccabe floats and doesn't commit to the passer or the shooter, just freezes

doesn't score

always injured


people love him for that soupy moment when he hit laine

The problem is that you don't want him blocking other guys that are on the way up. I believe Samuelson is a LHD.
- Slump Buster

If McCabe is a better D than those two, you shouldn't have to worry about blocking them. Right or wrong, Borgen sat down there for several years. If the org thinks Samelsson can outperform Jake McCabe right now, then let him walk. Otherwise, keep them down while they're waiver exempt.

Keep your good players, or sign Jake for a few years and trade him after next season if it comes to that.

I'd love to see 1 reason to keep Mccabe
- homiedclown

Because he's a good defenseman who is able to suppress offenses at a high level. Not sure if you need another. He did all this at 50% off of Ristolainen's price.

The problem is that you don't want him blocking other guys that are on the way up. I believe Samuelson is a LHD.
- Slump Buster

Samuelsson, Johnson

my eyes



75 percent of the risto "blunders" is due to mccabe being out of position

mccabe floats and doesn't commit to the passer or the shooter, just freezes

doesn't score

always injured


people love him for that soupy moment when he hit laine
- homiedclown

McCabe made Risto look like a Norris candidate for 10 games.

my eyes



75 percent of the risto "blunders" is due to mccabe being out of position

mccabe floats and doesn't commit to the passer or the shooter, just freezes

doesn't score

always injured


people love him for that soupy moment when he hit laine
- homiedclown

wat

If McCabe is a better D than those two, you shouldn't have to worry about blocking them. Right or wrong, Borgen sat down there for several years. If the org thinks Samelsson can outperform Jake McCabe right now, then let him walk. Otherwise, keep them down while they're waiver exempt.

Keep your good players, or sign Jake for a few years and trade him after next season if it comes to that.
- TheSabresTaco

Due to ongoing Covid situation, a lot of guys are going to take short term, low cap deals. McCabe probably fits into that boat. I'd resign him if this was the case regardless. He's better than Miller, Irwin or anyone else for a 6-7 spot. If a kid outperforms him, move him to the box. A $2M contract shouldn't be too much to handle.

I think if we drafted around 6-8, he'd be a great snag.
- TheSabresTaco

he is the safe pick in that era

Lucius is the home run or whiff

If McCabe is a better D than those two, you shouldn't have to worry about blocking them. Right or wrong, Borgen sat down there for several years. If the org thinks Samelsson can outperform Jake McCabe right now, then let him walk. Otherwise, keep them down while they're waiver exempt.

Keep your good players, or sign Jake for a few years and trade him after next season if it comes to that.
- TheSabresTaco

I've got no reason to think that McCabe is a better D than those two. He can play on my bottom 4 any day of the week if I didn't have cheaper options, but I do. If I don't know that he is better than those guys AND I am going to have to pay him a lot more AND he is coming back from a major injury.... I'll take much chances with the kids.

Best option - offer him a 1 year show-me deal. If he doesn't want it, seeya.

McCabe made Risto look like a Norris candidate for 10 games.
- Pegullaville

stinks
always hurt
can't score

poor man's lydman


it's a cap era

I don't need some 5 year deal for Jake. Two or three would be great. But he's shown to be a high quality defensive defenseman who can help anchor a young core. Bryson is... well he's not good at defense. He has waiver eligibility. So send him down for another year, use as a primary callup with Samuelsson.

Dahlin-Joker
McCabe-X
Bryson/X-Borgen
Larry

See what you can get for Risto and Miller.
- TheSabresTaco

Common ground for the most part...for me though,
-just go shorter term on McCabe..1 - 2 years
-go get a full fledged 1st pairing D...Watching Savard and Hamilton last night was a treat...yes please for either one.

would you rather have the sabres:

a.) lose all five to the bruins and pretty much assure a top-3/4 pick?

b.) win all five against the bruins and drop to the 5/6 range?
- Michael Pachla

Bbbbb,bbbbb, bbbbbb, b b b beee

Because he's a good defenseman who is able to suppress offenses at a high level. Not sure if you need another. He did all this at 50% off of Ristolainen's price.
- TheSabresTaco

he's not good

those same coaches that love him, also played risto 25 minutes a night

can't have it both ways