- kingcong39

I’ve compared Sam to RNH but the more I think of it I think the most accurate comp is Paul Stastny.

Ideally we can resign him and keep him in the fold.

He’s a top 6 forward whether at C or RW and he’s produced in all circumstances.

If he wants to arb his way to UFA that’s his right. They should deal him this offseason then for the most they can get for him.
- Pegullaville

I’ve compared Sam to RNH but the more I think of it I think the most accurate comp is Paul Stastny.

Ideally we can resign him and keep him in the fold.

He’s a top 6 forward whether at C or RW and he’s produced in all circumstances.

If he wants to arb his way to UFA that’s his right. They should deal him this offseason then for the most they can get for him.
- Pegullaville

Unfortunately Donny Meatballs probably increased Sam's AAV by calling him a center

He has had a pretty good career as a winger. Would he have had that same productivity as a Center. My opinion is no. Moving forward will he be as productive at Center as he was as a winger. My opinion is no. Can he play Center? My opinion is yes but he wont be as productive. Granato feels he is a Center and that’s fine. He’s a smart man and he’s the coach. Will he continue to think the same way into next year? I say not a chance.
Does my opinion matter to Granato? I say not a chance.
- Camel

Is Reinhart worth more to the team's chances of being good as a 60-65 point winger or a 50-55 point 2nd line center?

Is Reinhart worth more to the team's chances of being good as a 60-65 point winger or a 50-55 point 2nd line center?
- kingcong39

If they keep all of Reinhart, Cozens and Mittelstadt, and if they want Reinhart at center, I'd go with Mitts at 2C, Cozens at 1RW and Sam at checking line center

Mittelstadt needs to be in an offensive role, Reinhart is good defensively, and cozens needs more than 4th line minutes.

It's tough to carve out enough minutes for Eichel, Reinhart, Mittelstadt and Cozens to all be at center. I don't want Mittelstadt or Cozens playing 10 minutes a game, and Eichel should play 20, not 16

Injuries not withstanding

Is Reinhart worth more to the team's chances of being good as a 60-65 point winger or a 50-55 point 2nd line center?
- kingcong39

What is with all of this 65 point winger talk?

He had 1 season at 65 points. 2 seasons at 50 points. A season of 47, a season of 42 and will probably finish with somewhere around 45 this year, a pace of around 58 points at a full 82.

That makes Sam Reinhart a 50-55 point player across his entire career at an average of 52 points per season.

He is not a 60-65 point winger. So, if you ask me, in my opinion, sorry not sorry, Sam Reinhart has more upside at C where he can cover more of the ice, be more defensively responsible, and also be in the right position to cherry pick or set a guy up like he has been lately.

Unfortunately Donny Meatballs probably increased Sam's AAV by calling him a center
- jcragcrumple

Then did he increase his trade value too??

Then did he increase his trade value too??
- jdfitz77

Yeah, I think Reinhart's trade value is extremely high. I want to keep him if possible though

If they keep all of Reinhart, Cozens and Mittelstadt, and if they want Reinhart at center, I'd go with Mitts at 2C, Cozens at 1RW and Sam at checking line center

Mittelstadt needs to be in an offensive role, Reinhart is good defensively, and cozens needs more than 4th line minutes.

It's tough to carve out enough minutes for Eichel, Reinhart, Mittelstadt and Cozens to all be at center. I don't want Mittelstadt or Cozens playing 10 minutes a game, and Eichel should play 20, not 16

Injuries not withstanding
- jcragcrumple

One of them would obviously move to the wing

Yeah, I think Reinhart's trade value is extremely high. I want to keep him if possible though
- jcragcrumple

Me too, I’ve always been a fan
But he’s not untouchable- especially if we trade Eichel
In that case, trade him too & build a new “core”

What is with all of this 65 point winger talk?

He had 1 season at 65 points. 2 seasons at 50 points. A season of 47, a season of 42 and will probably finish with somewhere around 45 this year, a pace of around 58 points at a full 82.

That makes Sam Reinhart a 50-55 point player across his entire career at an average of 52 points per season.

He is not a 60-65 point winger. So, if you ask me, in my opinion, sorry not sorry, Sam Reinhart has more upside at C where he can cover more of the ice, be more defensively responsible, and also be in the right position to cherry pick or set a guy up like he has been lately.
- 3rd GM's the charm

You are weighing his rookie and sophomore seasons the same as his last 3?

Also, he scored 50 points in 69 games last season due to Covid shortening the season.

What is with all of this 65 point winger talk?

He had 1 season at 65 points. 2 seasons at 50 points. A season of 47, a season of 42 and will probably finish with somewhere around 45 this year, a pace of around 58 points at a full 82.

That makes Sam Reinhart a 50-55 point player across his entire career at an average of 52 points per season.

He is not a 60-65 point winger. So, if you ask me, in my opinion, sorry not sorry, Sam Reinhart has more upside at C where he can cover more of the ice, be more defensively responsible, and also be in the right position to cherry pick or set a guy up like he has been lately.
- 3rd GM's the charm

Tbf, one of those 50 point seasons was 59/60 point pace, last season. So he'd have two seasons in a row (the most two recent) of 60/65, and like you said 58 this year prorated (see where he ends up, might be in the 60 range. So 3 seasons in a row at/near 60-65. Splitting hairs, but probably a 55-60 point guy. I just like that he pots 20+ yearly instead of racking up secondary assists so much

What is with all of this 65 point winger talk?

He had 1 season at 65 points. 2 seasons at 50 points. A season of 47, a season of 42 and will probably finish with somewhere around 45 this year, a pace of around 58 points at a full 82.

That makes Sam Reinhart a 50-55 point player across his entire career at an average of 52 points per season.

He is not a 60-65 point winger. So, if you ask me, in my opinion, sorry not sorry, Sam Reinhart has more upside at C where he can cover more of the ice, be more defensively responsible, and also be in the right position to cherry pick or set a guy up like he has been lately.
- 3rd GM's the charm

I agree

Meaning this site is a cesspool of losing. And btw, he was touting Sam's six points in 16 games as a comparison with other centers. A team comparable at center was mitts and his 8 goals plus 3 assists. Hardly deflecting.

Dictionaries are our friends.
- Michael Pachla

Those were just his 5 on 5 points

Mitts doesn’t have 11 5 on 5 points in that span

Those were just his 5 on 5 points

Mitts doesn’t have 11 5 on 5 points in that span
- sbroads24

You're right. He's at 6+2

You are weighing his rookie and sophomore seasons the same as his last 3?

Also, he scored 50 points in 69 games last season due to Covid shortening the season.
- kingcong39

forgot to prorate last year but he's still a 55 point player across his career. Can he be a 70-point guy? I don't see it happening regularly. He's a 50/60 point guy who should, at 25 years old, be driving his own line. He was drafted as a C and should be playing C at this point.

One of them would obviously move to the wing
- jdfitz77

I would think Mitts would in that scenario. Something like this without considering FA/Trades.

Skinner-Eichel-Olofsson
Mitts-Reinhart-Thompson
Bjork-Cozens-Ruotsalinen
Girgensons-Asplund-Okposo

What is with all of this 65 point winger talk?

He had 1 season at 65 points. 2 seasons at 50 points. A season of 47, a season of 42 and will probably finish with somewhere around 45 this year, a pace of around 58 points at a full 82.

That makes Sam Reinhart a 50-55 point player across his entire career at an average of 52 points per season.

He is not a 60-65 point winger. So, if you ask me, in my opinion, sorry not sorry, Sam Reinhart has more upside at C where he can cover more of the ice, be more defensively responsible, and also be in the right position to cherry pick or set a guy up like he has been lately.
- 3rd GM's the charm

65, 59, and 59(so far, well, 58.8) are his 82 game stats the last 3 years. It's not his fault covid happened.

I would think Mitts would in that scenario. Something like this without considering FA/Trades.

Skinner-Eichel-Olofsson
Mitts-Reinhart-Thompson
Bjork-Cozens-Ruotsalinen
Girgensons-Asplund-Okposo
- Pegullaville

I’m still not sold on Tage
But something like that seems reasonable

Getting rid of Eakin & buying out Okposo would be good moves for us to make imo


It could even be Sam back at the wing
Not saying he has to play Center NOW that Cozens & Mitts are playing well
Was saying we should’ve tried Sam back at center when we traded ROR & only came up with dogsh!t options for 2C

65, 59, and 59(so far, well, 58.8) are his 82 game stats the last 3 years. It's not his fault covid happened.
- Wetbandit1

It’s a 61.6pts/82games over the last 3 seasons

What is with all of this 65 point winger talk?

He had 1 season at 65 points. 2 seasons at 50 points. A season of 47, a season of 42 and will probably finish with somewhere around 45 this year, a pace of around 58 points at a full 82.

That makes Sam Reinhart a 50-55 point player across his entire career at an average of 52 points per season.

He is not a 60-65 point winger. So, if you ask me, in my opinion, sorry not sorry, Sam Reinhart has more upside at C where he can cover more of the ice, be more defensively responsible, and also be in the right position to cherry pick or set a guy up like he has been lately.
- 3rd GM's the charm

in the last 232 nhl games reinhart has 183 points

which is .7888 ppg

times 82 is 64.61 points

so he is not a 65 point player

It’s a 61.6pts/82games over the last 3 seasons
- jdfitz77

you forgot the last 35 games of the season before, where he put up 35 points

you forgot the last 35 games of the season before, where he put up 35 points
- homiedclown

I’m a Sam supporter, but i don’t need to cherry-pick the numbers to make them better

Point is:
Sam has been playing well for years now

Idk why some have such a hard time accepting that???

Idk why some have such a hard time accepting that???
- jdfitz77

his name is sam, not leon

"If" jack eichel thats "if" he was looking to move on I would contact New Jersey about jack hughes they seem to lost all hope for him