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LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 28 @ 4:06 PM ET
Agreed. Don't count him out but he is listed at 179lbs. I doubt he is north of 165lbs. He looks like a teenager (and was one until this year) and he really isn't adept at avoiding hits like Keith and Kane were/are. He gets pushed off balance a lot.

This is what happens when you play a 20 year old kid against grown men (albeit some of the injuries are just bad luck).

Sure he is getting nice experience but he could've stayed in JRs and worked on adding strength.

Guys like Kalynuk and Mitchell spent multiple seasons in college and in a college strength and conditioning program. Those extra few years make a difference from a physical development standpoint.
- bhawks2241

So lets see, this year Bovquist had COVID, he got a puck to the jaw that he was in concussion protocol but DID NOT have a concussion and a broken wrist. So in reality he had ONE injury this year. Dach , a much bigger kid got a broken wrist playing with 20 years old. So does that mean Dach should of been playing in juniors this year also?

My feeling in Bovquist showed he was much better to play in the NHL than Dach is this year.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
For all the sturm und drang (look it up) here, it’s overall been a positive year.

This year’s team is better than last year’s, which was better than the previous year
Lots of very young forwards have gotten time and development at the NHL level
A few of the young D have gotten their feet wet, and shown some promise
An at least average NHL goalie and average NHL backup goalie have been identified

For next year, add a summer of growth and development of this year’s young players, add a euro signing, a free agent or 2, a healthy and rested Toews, a healthy Dach, another kid or 2 from Rockford (Entwistle) and the Blackhawks will be poised to take another step. Still don’t expect them to contend for the playoffs next year, but the trend is up. 2022-23, maybe is the year.

Getting smoked by TB at this point is not unexpected. TB can overwhelm many NHL teams.

- scottak

What worries me is we know most of the young Forwards were getting by on hustle not talent. There may not be much growth hustle only goes so far? They will fill out and get stronger hopefully that translates into more positive experiences.
chuckdahammer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 11.01.2016

Apr 28 @ 4:08 PM ET
I think the Hawks man-to-man defensive scheme is flawed. The Islanders were one of the worst teams in the league defensively, and when Barry Trotz became coach and instilled his version of man-to-man defensive scheme, with very little or no personal changes, they are near the top of the league defensively. What could be so radically different in the Hawks scheme, that they are just as bad as when Colliton took over ? It all comes back to basic fundamentals. The Hawks need to stress the fundamentals and get better defensively as a team. It will help the kids progress and also help young goaltender trying to establish himself
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
Honest question....do you feel the Hawks have a playoff quality roster as constructed even prior to the deadline?

Some guys flourish getting information from player to player. I am sure when Bowman met with the core he spoke on this and to your point....2 of the most prized veterans have taken guys under their wing and helped them....

When the Hawks reach the 2007-08 watermark where they are on the verge of being a playoff team, young guys have ironed out the kinks, etc.......then we can look at JC with more of a black/white contrast......Remember, we saw in the previous regime that following a near miss in 07-08 and then followed by a slow start led to the firing of a coach and the hiring of a proven coach who started their run.....

IMO...hawks aren't near 2007-08 level yet.

- SteveRain

This!
RaleighHawk
Joined: 03.29.2016

Apr 28 @ 4:10 PM ET
Agreed...I just feel 16 and 44 are done....period. I don't think 16 could have flourished in Qs system. Colorado sold high on him and are reaping the rewards with Saad adding depth.
- SteveRain

Saad will only be a reward if they win the Cup. If not, he is one and done there, unless he decides to take a big pay cut.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 28 @ 4:11 PM ET
I think the Hawks man-to-man defensive scheme is flawed. The Islanders were one of the worst teams in the league defensively, and when Barry Trotz became coach and instilled his version of man-to-man defensive scheme, with very little or no personal changes, they are near the top of the league defensively. What could be so radically different in the Hawks scheme, that they are just as bad as when Colliton took over ? It all comes back to basic fundamentals. The Hawks need to stress the fundamentals and get better defensively as a team. It will help the kids progress and also help young goaltender trying to establish himself
- chuckdahammer

No system could have saved the kiddie core defense.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 28 @ 4:13 PM ET
Saad will only be a reward if they win the Cup. If not, he is one and done there, unless he decides to take a big pay cut.
- RaleighHawk

I see Saad $4-5 max depending on term and in the "$3's" would not shock me.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 4:17 PM ET
Hughes isn't exactly lighting the world on fire. -16 and is usually a mess in his own end. He is also an elite skater with elite speed. Boqvist is not. A lot of these highly touted youngsters aren't lighting it up. Look at Lafreniere and Kakko on the Rangers. Neither of them are really doing all that much.

I don't understand the rush to bring 19 and 20 years olds into the NHL.

- bhawks2241


He's putting up 0.76 PPG and is currently playing better than Dahlin in his own end from what I've seen.

There isn't necessarily a rush to get 19-20 yr old players in the league. In some cases it is necessary due to injury, salary cap, or lack of overall talent on the team. There are also cases where a guy is playing higher level hockey than the AHL or Jr, and nothing additional would be gained.

AB was playing very good defensive hockey before he got held out in concussion protocol. His offense was also starting to be displayed as well.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 28 @ 4:25 PM ET
Agreed...I just feel 16 and 44 are done....period. I don't think 16 could have flourished in Qs system. Colorado sold high on him and are reaping the rewards with Saad adding depth.
- SteveRain


deHaan before the shoulder injury last year and when Keith was out, was playing as arguably the Hawks best defenseman. He has not even been close to the same since that point. Zadorov is just plain bad at Hockey, there have been a few games this season where, for him, he played well. In those games he would be regarded as average at best. Paying $3.5 or more for a guy that is average on his best days, and those are few and far between is a no. If he had shown ANY type of Hockey sense, booming shot, offensive upside, heck anything other than an occasional big hit, then maybe you would work with him based on size and potential, but he is just plainly too dumb and not skilled enough.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 28 @ 4:29 PM ET
Agreed. Don't count him out but he is listed at 179lbs. I doubt he is north of 165lbs. He looks like a teenager (and was one until this year) and he really isn't adept at avoiding hits like Keith and Kane were/are. He gets pushed off balance a lot.

This is what happens when you play a 20 year old kid against grown men (albeit some of the injuries are just bad luck).

Sure he is getting nice experience but he could've stayed in JRs and worked on adding strength.

Guys like Kalynuk and Mitchell spent multiple seasons in college and in a college strength and conditioning program. Those extra few years make a difference from a physical development standpoint.

- bhawks2241


His injury has absolutely ZERO to do with being 20 years old playing against grown men. Please remind me how old were the guys Dach was playing against when he broke his wrist?
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Apr 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
Honest question....do you feel the Hawks have a playoff quality roster as constructed even prior to the deadline?

Some guys flourish getting information from player to player. I am sure when Bowman met with the core he spoke on this and to your point....2 of the most prized veterans have taken guys under their wing and helped them....

When the Hawks reach the 2007-08 watermark where they are on the verge of being a playoff team, young guys have ironed out the kinks, etc.......then we can look at JC with more of a black/white contrast......Remember, we saw in the previous regime that following a near miss in 07-08 and then followed by a slow start led to the firing of a coach and the hiring of a proven coach who started their run.....

IMO...hawks aren't near 2007-08 level yet.

- SteveRain


Just looked at the stats. Look at the numbers Keith put up as a 2nd year Dman in 2007-2008:

D 82 12G 20A 32P +30

Plus 30!!!

And Seabrook as a second year D:

D 82 9G 23A 32P +13

Hopefully Kalynuk, Mitchell, Boquist or Beaudin can put up those numbers and play at a level like these two guys did.

Even Wiz put up good numbers:

7G 19A 26P +12

Buff had 37 points as a Dman.

We were stacked with high picks Kane 1, Toews 3, Barker 3, Skille 7 and Ladd 4 (we acquired him for Ruutu at the TDL).

And had good complimentary scoring in Sharp, Williams, Lang and Havlat.

We still need time to get at that level.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 28 @ 4:42 PM ET
You’re inferring that. Just because JC is HC, that doesn’t make him completely responsible for their development. There are other coaches and players responsible. Kane stays out on the ice long after the coaches are gone, working on things with other players. Remember Keith talking to young D during camp?

And you didn’t answer my question. Would you employ someone who failed 7 of 8 years?

- scottak


I inferred nothing. You said the team has gotten better each year. You've said the coach should go

Who said the coach was completely responsible for the development of the kids? I asked if he deserved ANY credit for that, and you are unable to give him ANY credit.

Would I have hired him? I don't know. But I do know that my analysis would've included a lot more than wins and losses; given where the Hawks were/are in the rebuilding process, developmental ability would've been a priority.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 28 @ 4:49 PM ET
I took a break and read several pages and am talking to various posts /peopl and all of you.

Yup JC and all the staff should be congratulated because a boatload of young guys were fast tracked and got results in this system, with the guys in charge and love being Chicago Blackhawks.
We don't make the playoffs but isn't that what the minus Crow team was expected to do, not less the subtractions at vet star centre and young and hopeful to be a star centre.

This has been fun.
The trade line was fun.

The euros and kids have kinks in the armor.

Some will overcome them, some will develop.

In 10 years, the hockey term "defenseman" used and thought of up until expansion and after will take an entirely different form of job description.
teams will look for as many of the Hawk type attackers and add them based on their attack skills and toolbox, not how well they intimidate, crush, or provide edge.

Each younger defenseman saw how horrible NHL attackers can make you, but also saw moments where they could say, "I think I can get there and do this."

SOMETHING GOOD happened to our team, now more things must happen.

Any arguments with all that?
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
Just looked at the stats. Look at the numbers Keith put up as a 2nd year Dman in 2007-2008:

D 82 12G 20A 32P +30

Plus 30!!!

And Seabrook as a second year D:

D 82 9G 23A 32P +13

Hopefully Kalynuk, Mitchell, Boquist or Beaudin can put up those numbers and play at a level like these two guys did.

Even Wiz put up good numbers:

7G 19A 26P +12

Buff had 37 points as a Dman.

We were stacked with high picks Kane 1, Toews 3, Barker 3, Skille 7 and Ladd 4 (we acquired him for Ruutu at the TDL).

And had good complimentary scoring in Sharp, Williams, Lang and Havlat.

We still need time to get at that level.

- Popsghostly


It is way too small of a sample size, but Kalynuk is 4/3/7 in 14 games and -2 on a poope team.

I'm most intrigued by what Mitchell becomes. Kalynuk, right now, has acquitted himself the best among the young D (looking at his overall game). I still think Mitchell has the ability to be the best of the bunch.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
I took a break and read several pages and am talking to various posts /peopl and all of you.

Yup JC and all the staff should be congratulated because a boatload of young guys were fast tracked and got results in this system, with the guys in charge and love being Chicago Blackhawks.
We don't make the playoffs but isn't that what the minus Crow team was expected to do, not less the subtractions at vet star centre and young and hopeful to be a star centre.

This has been fun.
The trade line was fun.

The euros and kids have kinks in the armor.

Some will overcome them, some will develop.

In 10 years, the hockey term "defenseman" used and thought of up until expansion and after will take an entirely different form of job description.
teams will look for as many of the Hawk type attackers and add them based on their attack skills and toolbox, not how well they intimidate, crush, or provide edge.

Each younger defenseman saw how horrible NHL attackers can make you, but also saw moments where they could say, "I think I can get there and do this."

SOMETHING GOOD happened to our team, now more things must happen.

Any arguments with all that?

- wiz1901


Great point Wiz. An interesting development is how many of the Hawks young D have been able to at least battle in, if not actually protect, the crease. Mitchell does this pretty well, Kalynuk does well, and Boqvist at least interferes with the guy. They obviously all need more work in that area (and a few others), but there is growth and reason for optimism.
Popsghostly
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 08.11.2017

Apr 28 @ 5:01 PM ET
It is way too small of a sample size, but Kalynuk is 4/3/7 in 14 games and -2 on a poope team.

I'm most intrigued by what Mitchell becomes. Kalynuk, right now, has acquitted himself the best among the young D (looking at his overall game). I still think Mitchell has the ability to be the best of the bunch.

- Chunk


Agree with lots of stuff in here Chunk.

Kalynuk has really impressed me in his small sample size. He's really good on the rush with two really nice goals joining the forwards.

Mitchell impressed me a lot in his first 10 games or so and played with a lot of confidence. He lost his confidence a bit and didn't play the same. With a year here and in the Rock under his belt, I think he'll look better next year.

I'm not a fan of trying to get Savard. He's 30 and put up pretty bad numbers on a poor Columbus team and feel he'd be like a Murphy at the very best in our line-up. We should let the kids play mentored by Keith and Murphy.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 5:05 PM ET
Colliton says he doesn't think Boqvist will need surgery on his wrist, which is good news.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 28 @ 5:25 PM ET
Just looked at the stats. Look at the numbers Keith put up as a 2nd year Dman in 2007-2008:

D 82 12G 20A 32P +30

Plus 30!!!

And Seabrook as a second year D:

D 82 9G 23A 32P +13

Hopefully Kalynuk, Mitchell, Boquist or Beaudin can put up those numbers and play at a level like these two guys did.

Even Wiz put up good numbers:

7G 19A 26P +12

Buff had 37 points as a Dman.

We were stacked with high picks Kane 1, Toews 3, Barker 3, Skille 7 and Ladd 4 (we acquired him for Ruutu at the TDL).

And had good complimentary scoring in Sharp, Williams, Lang and Havlat.

We still need time to get at that level.

- Popsghostly

Boqvist just finished his "first" year.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Apr 28 @ 5:41 PM ET
Remind of who the bad, poorly run team was who gave up on Zadorov was? And I don't mean BUF. The one that traded him to the Hawks.
- HawkintheD

I did not say anyone gave up on Zadorov I would say Colorado traded from a position of strength that is a pretty stacked blue line .I said Florida gave up on Stillman and the rewarding him a 3 contract reminds me of the Delia signing more hope then sense .We shall see how Boqvist works out I hope for the best but hate to see the kid being rushed for no good reason and suffering injuries that will no doubt affect his progression
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 28 @ 5:52 PM ET
There is growth and reason for optimism.
- Chunk


Here is where my optimism always comes from.

These are my ranks if I was selecting, not trying to fill the hawks needs with more defenseman or RWs:

PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
1

BUF
Owen Power D Michigan
6' 4"
210
2

ANA
Dylan Guenther RW Canada
6' 2"
171
3
Seattle
Simon Edvinsson D Sweden
6' 3"
187
4

NJ
Matthew Beniers C Michigan
6' 0"
175
5

OTT
Cole Sillinger C Canada
6' 0"
200
6

CBJ
Brandt Clarke D Canada
6' 1"
181
7

DET
William Eklund LW Sweden
5' 10"
172
8

LA
Luke Hughes D United States
6' 15"
176
9

SJ
Kent Johnson C Michigan
6' 1"
170
10

CGY
Jesper Wallstedt G Sweden
6' 3"
212
11

ARI
Forfeit
12

CHI
Carson Lambos D Canada
6' 1"
197
13

PHI
Chaz Lucius C United States
6' 1"
180
14

DAL
Mason McTavish C Canada
6' 1"
196
15

VAN
Brennan Othmann LW Canada
5' 11"
166
16

NAS
Brett Harrison C Northwood School
6' 1"
172
17
T

CAR
Corson Ceulemans D Canada
6' 1"
188
18

FLA
Fabian Lysell RW Sweden
5' 10"
176
19
T

NJ
Zachary Bolduc C Canada
6' 1"
175
20

NYR
Aatu Räty C Finland
6' 0"
171
21

MON
Francesco Pinelli C Canada
6' 0"
176
22

EDM
Conner Roulette LW Canada
5' 11"
175
23

WPG
Oskar Olausson LW Sweden
6' 2"
181
24

MIN
Simon Robertsson RW Sweden
6' 0"
181
25
T

MIN
Zachary L`Heureux LW Canada
5' 11"
196
26
T

DET
Anton Olsson D Sweden
6' 1"
183
27

CAR
Artem Grushnikov D Russia
6' 2"
176
28

BOS
Sasha Pastujov RW Notre Dame
6' 0"
181
29
T

CBJ
Stanislav Svozil D Czech Republic
6' 1"
172
30

VEG
Roman Schmidt D United States
6' 4"
210
31
T

CBJ
Daniil Chayka D Russia
6' 2"
173
32

COL
Xavier Bourgault C Canada
5' 11"
166
Draft Kings Daily Fantasy
ROUND 2
PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
33

BUF
Nikita Chibrikov RW Russia
5' 10"
165
34

ANA
Martin Rysavy RW Czech Republic
6' 2"
202
35
Seattle
Samu Tuomaala LW Finland
5' 10"
166
36
T

VEG
Sebastian Cossa G Canada
6' 4"
212
37

OTT
Cameron Whynot D Canada
6' 2"
182
38
T

OTT
Logan Stankoven RW Canada
5' 8"
170
39

DET
Matthew Coronato LW United States
5' 10"
181
40

LA
Samuel Helenius C Finland
6' 6"
202
41
T

OTT
Cole Huckins C Canada
6' 4"
192
42

CGY
Colton Dach LW Canada
6' 3"
205
43

ARI
Ayrton Martino LW Canada
5' 10"
177
44

CHI
Logan Mailloux D Canada
6' 3"
216
45

PHI
Scott Morrow D Shattuck-St. Marys School
6' 2"
190
46

DAL
Chase Stillman RW United States
5' 11"
170
47

VAN
Olivier Nadeau RW Canada
6' 1"
201
48

NAS
Zachary Dean C Canada
5' 10"
168
49
T

LA
Evan Nause D Canada
6' 1"
180
50

FLA
Prokhor Poltapov LW Russia
5' 10"
160
51
T

NJ
Jake Chiasson RW Canada
6' 1"
170
52
T

DET
Sean Behrens D United States
5' 8"
172
53

MON
Aidan Hreschuk D United States
5' 11"
170
54
T

DET
Jack Peart D Grand Rapids High School
5' 11"
181
55

WPG
Evgeni Kashinkov D Russia
6' 4"
184
56

MIN
Tyler Boucher RW United States
6' 1"
190
57

PIT
Joshua Roy C Canada
6' 0"
192
58

WAS
Tristan Lennox G Canada
6' 4"
190
59

CAR
Brent Johnson D United States
5' 11"
175
60
T

BUF
Isak Rosén LW Sweden
5' 10"
155
61

TOR
Wyatt Johnston C United States
5' 11"
155
62
T

CHI
Matthew Mackie Samoskevich RW United States
5' 11"
186
63
T

MON
Eric Alarie LW Canada
6' 1"
198
64
T

NYI
Dylan Duke C Michigan
5' 975"
181
ROUND 3
PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
65
T

NYR
Alexander Palchik RW Belarus
6' 1"
172
66

ANA
William Trudeau D Canada
6' 0"
189
67
Seattle
Marcus Almquist RW Denmark
5' 7"
155
68

NJ
Alex Geci LW Slovenia
6' 2"
177
69

OTT
Caedan Bankler LW Canada
6' 0"
171
70

CBJ
Ryan Winterton RW United States
6' 1"
174
71

DET
Connor Lockhart C Canada
5' 9"
161
72

LA
Cameron MacDonald C Canada
6' 1"
185
73

SJ
Oscar Plandowski D Canada
5' 11"
175
74

CGY
Fyodor Svechkov C Russia
6' 0"
179
75
T

WAS
Justin Janicke LW Notre Dame
5' 11"
175
76
T

MON
Shai Buium D United States
6' 3"
201
77

PHI
Ryder Korczak C Canada
5' 10"
160
78

DAL
James Malatesta LW Canada
5' 11"
172
79

VAN
Elias Carmichael D Canada
6' 1"
185
80

NAS
Justin Robidas C Canada
5' 7"
161
81

STL
Olen Zellweger D Canada
5' 8"
165
82
T

BUF
Ryan Ufko D United States
5' 9"
176
83

NYI
Jayden Grubbe RW United States
6' 3"
190
84

NYR
Isaac Belliveau D Canada
6' 0"
172
85
T

BUF
Peter Reynolds C Shattuck-St. Marys School
5' 10"
169
86
T

CGY
Vladislav Lukashevich D Russia
5' 11"
167
87

WPG
Daniil Sobolev D Russia
5' 105"
172
88

MIN
Ethan Samson D Canada
6' 1"
1604
89
T

MIN
Josh Doan C United States
6' 2"
161
90
T

MON
Guillaume Richard D Mount St. Charles Academy
6' 1"
161
91

CAR
Joseph Pierce D Hermantown High School
6' 0"
186
92

BOS
Daniil Lazutin C Russia
6' 2"
175
93
T

LA
Nolan Allen D Canada
6' 1"
174
94
T

DET
William Strömgren LW Sweden
6' 2"
161
95

TB
Robert Orr C Canada
5' 11"
168
96

COL
Joseph Vrbetic G Canada
6' 6"
181
ROUND 4
PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
97

BUF
Ty Gallagher D United States
6' 0"
187
98

ANA
Jackson Blake Eden Prairie High School
5' 10"
150
99
Seattle
Kirill Kirsanov D Russia
6' 1"
19
100

NJ
Robert Baco RW Slovakia
6' 3"
215
101
T

NYR
Riley Kidney C Canada
5' 11"
165
102

CBJ
Zack Stringer LW Canada
6' 1"
165
103

DET
Jack Bar D St. Andrew Saints
6' 2"
195
104
T

NYR
Redmond Savage C United States
5' 11"
175
105

SJ
Jack Matier D Canada
6' 2"
194
106
T

LA
Samu Salminen RW Finland
6' 2"
176
107

ARI
Graham Sward D Canada
6' 2"
166
108

CHI
Cameron Berg LW United States
5' 11"
183
109

PHI
Aku Koskenvuo G Finland
6' 4"
170
110

DAL
Eetu Liukas LW Finland
6' 2"
200
111
T

CHI
Taige Harding D Providence
6' 7"
236
112

NAS
Arseni Sergeyev G Russia
6' 3"
190
113
T

MON
Ethan Del Mastro D Canada
6' 3"
185
114

FLA
Oliver Kapanen C Finland
5' 11"
166
115

NYI
Ivan Björkly Nordström RW Sweden
6' 7"
216
116

NYR
Victor Stjernborg C Sweden
5' 9"
174
117

MON
Victor Sjöholm D Sweden
5' 8"
164
118

EDM
Jacob Holmes D Canada
6' 1"
177
119
T

VEG
Vincent Iorio D Canada
6' 3"
194
120

MIN
Kyle Masters D Canada
5' 11"
161
121
T

ARI
Finlay Williams C Canada
5' 11"
170
122

WAS
Matthew Knies C United States
6' 2"
205
123

CAR
Zakhar Bardakov RW Russia
6' 2"
198
124

BOS
Viljami Marjala RW Finland
5' 11"
155
125
T

SJ
Gabe Klassen LW United States
5' 10"
162
126
T

MON
Jack O'Brien C United States
6' 0"
155
127
T

DET
Marc Lajoie D Canada
6' 4"
231
128
T

NAS
Kalle Väisänen LW Finland
6' 4"
165
ROUND 5
PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
129
T

NJ
Tristan Broz LW United States
5' 11"
172
130

ANA
Matvei Petrov RW Russia
6' 1"
163
131
Seattle
Owen Murray D Canada
5' 10"
181
132
T

CBJ
Topias Villen D Finland
6' 0"
186
133
T

DET
Andre Gasseau C United States
6' 4"
202
134

CBJ
Ty Voit C United States
5' 9"
150
135

DET
Jakub Demek C Slovakia
6' 4"
196
136

LA
Luke Mittlestadt D Eden Prairie High School
5' 11"
185
137

SJ
Benjamin Gaudreau G Canada
6' 2"
183
138

CGY
Jakub Brabenec LW Czech Republic
6' 0"
154
139

ARI
Zachary Ostapchuk LW Canada
6' 3"
187
140
T

VAN
Vsevolod Gaidamak C Russia
5' 11"
195
141
T

MON
Nikita Buruyanov RW Russia
5' 10"
172
142

DAL
Oliver Suni RW Finland
6' 2"
194
143

VAN
Jacob Guévin D Northwood School
5' 11"
186
144

NAS
Andrei Buyalski RW Kazakhstan
6' 3"
169
145

STL
Jaroslav Chmelar C Czech Republic
6' 4"
196
146

FLA
Ville Ottavainen D Finland
6' 0"
165
147

NYI
Joshua Bloom LW Canada
6' 0"
165
148

NYR
Avery Hayes RW United States
5' 10"
165
149
T

BUF
Liam Dower Nilsson C Sweden
5' 11"
160
150
T

ANA
Aleksi Malinen D Finland
6' 0"
170
151

WPG
Sebastian Malat RW Czech Republic
5' 11"
179
152

MIN
Maximillian Glötzl D Germany
6' 2"
198
153

PIT
Florian Ellias C Germany
5' 8"
170
154

WAS
Ville Koivunen RW Finland
5' 11"
161
155
T

VEG
Martin Brovall D Sweden
6' 2"
181
156

BOS
Dru Krebs D Canada
5' 11"
170
157

TOR
Jere Virolainen C Finland
6' 1"
190
158
T

PHI
Luca Münzenberger D Germany
6' 2"
194
159

TB
Lorenzo Canonica C Switzerland
5' 11"
179
160
T

SJ
Raymond Fust LW Switzerland
6' 2"
183
ROUND 6
PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
161

BUF
Trevor Wong C Canada
5' 8"
154
162

ANA
Niko Huuhtanen LW Finland
6' 1"
185
163
Seattle
Stanislav Vrhel C Czech Republic
6' 1"
178
164

NJ
Joel Henry C Switzerland
5' 9"
157
165

OTT
Sean Tschigerl LW Canada
5' 11"
177
166

CBJ
Aidan De la Gorgendiere D Canada
6' 0"
178
167

DET
Owen Pederson LW United States
6' 3"
188
168

LA
Caden Brown C United States
5' 11"
175
169

SJ
Logan Hammett D Canada
6' 1"
187
170

CGY
Jacob Melanson RW Canada
5' 11"
183
171

ARI
Justin Gill C Canada
6' 0"
175
172

CHI
Liekit Reichle RW Switzerland
6' 0"
172
173

PHI
Kyle Kukkonen C Maple Grove Junior High School
5' 10"
165
174

DAL
Jacob Napier D Northstar Christian Academy
6' 2"
190
175

VAN
Tomi Leppanen D Finland
6' 0"
194
176

NAS
Daniel Baker D Canada
6' 4"
183
177

STL
Carter Schade D United States
5' 11"
175
178

FLA
Israel Mianscum LW Canada
6' 1"
192
179

NYI
Charles-Alexis Legault D Canada
6' 1"
185
180

NYR
Brayden Peters G Canada
6' 1"
201
181

MON
Jeremy Hanzel D Canada
6' 1"
185
182

EDM
Owen Bartoksiewicz C United States
6' 2"
190
183

WPG
Braeden Kressler C Canada
5' 8"
154
184

MIN
Paul Davey C Avon Old Farms
6' 1"
170
185
T

EDM
Kai Uchacz RW Canada
6' 1"
190
186

WAS
Mitchell Smith D United States
5' 10"
169
187

CAR
Logan Morrison C Canada
5' 11"
175
188

BOS
Josh Pillar C Canada
5' 11"
165
189
T

OTT
Xavier Simoneau C Canada
5' 6"
176
190

VEG
Petr Moravec RW Czech Republic
6' 0"
181
191

TB
Simon Groch D Slovakia
6' 2"
194
192
T

BUF
Jakub Sedivy D Czech Republic
6' 1"
189
ROUND 7
PICK TEAM PLAYER POSITION SCHOOL HT WT
193

BUF
Jalen Luypen LW Canada
5' 10"
150
194
T

PIT
Verner Miettinen LW Finland
5' 11"
161
195
Seattle
Charlie Lurie RW Shattuck Jr. Sr. High School
6' 0"
-
196
T

TB
Connor Tresham C Canada
5' 11"
152
197

OTT
Matthew Argentina C United States
6' 0"
180
198

CBJ
Robbie Fromm Delorme RW Canada
6' 1"
177
199
T

STL
Nolan Bentham D Canada
6' 3"
190
200
T

CAR
Dovar Tinling C Canada
5' 11"
181
201

SJ
Viljami Juusola D Finland
5' 10"
160
202

CGY
Ben Zloty D Canada
6' 0"
170
203
T

NJ
Zachary Okabe RW Canada
5' 8"
166
204
T

MON
Patriks Zabusovs RW Latvia
6' 1"
180
205

PHI
Michael Citara RW United States
5' 11"
165
206

DAL
Braden Holt G United States
6' 2"
150
207

VAN
Liam Gilmartin LW Shattuck-St. Marys School
6' 0"
183
208

NAS
Matej Kaslik C United States
5' 11"
163
209
T

CAR
Oleksii Myklukha C Slovakia
5' 11"
168
210
T

CHI
Connor Kurth RW United States
5' 11"
214
211

NYI
Simon Becar D Slovakia
6' 0"
155
212

NYR
Jakub Altrichter C Czech Republic
5' 9"
150
213
T

CHI
Jimi Suomi D Finland
5' 9"
150
214

EDM
Zachary Biggar D Canada
6' 0"
172
215
T

FLA
Jacob Dion D Canada
5' 9"
186
216

MIN
Hank Kempf D United States
6' 1"
181
217

PIT
Henry Nelson D Maple Grove Senior High School
6' 1"
175
218
T

PIT
Cameron Rowe G United States
6' 2"
205
219

CAR
Jack Beck RW United States
5' 10"
165
220

BOS
Attilio Biasca LW Switzerland
6' 0"
183
221
T

BOS
Simon Kubicek D Czech Republic
6' 2"
198
222

VEG
Carter Batchelder LW Eden Prairie High School
5' 10"
161
223

TB
Hunter McDonald D Canada
6' 3"
194
224

COL
Oskar Kvist LW Sweden
6' 4"
203
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
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Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 28 @ 6:32 PM ET
JFC Wiz, ever hear of bandwidth.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Apr 28 @ 6:36 PM ET
JFC Wiz, ever hear of bandwidth.
- paulr


I don't think he's allowed to just post a link anymore.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 28 @ 6:39 PM ET
YOU asked the right guy as he was going to go delivery soup as part of my soup ministry.

I think that this will the toughest draft to get 32 correct first rounders as the this one (called weak, hard to evaluate, etc.) has a load of kids that can play make impact into
that second.

An example is the Steel's Mackie Samoskevich, who started out a first rounded, and the everybody loved teammate Matt Coronato both who could go in the first.

I just looked at the list and if I simply subtract RUSSIANS (because there are variables that I don't control or are privy to),
and I see at least an unheard of 48 prospects whom a team might select.

(I said earlier this year here that maybe the Hawks take Colton Dach if they were IN the playoffs and let him percolate and develop).

There are plenty of players with upside that I have in my second that may be selected in the first. https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts

The Blackhawks #61 ;'s brother is there RW Chase Stillman, and he is good.

I wouldn't be surprised if goalie Sebastian Cossa gets taken in the 1st.

Or giant 6' 6 Samuel Helenius ('member his dad?)

Scott Morrow is a sleeper who easily could go.

To me the real part of "sleepers" in this class areal the guys left around the hawks pick.
Every night I mentally go through it.
I am not even thinking about wishful thinking drops from above;i am talking about will be there guys.
Read my profiles you decide who you like but into the 20s there are players, who in time, may play into on a level of the top second their guys.

And as I also have said the entire first 4 rounds might yield slip-through guys that inferior NHL scouting staffs had farther down on their lists...

I like thuis draft.

- wiz1901
thanks wiz
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Apr 28 @ 6:39 PM ET
I don't think he's allowed to just post a link anymore.
- Chunk

(frank) I’m glad he didn’t want to share war and peace with us.
rpeters01
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 07.09.2016

Apr 28 @ 6:41 PM ET
JFC Wiz, ever hear of bandwidth.
- paulr

How many rounds are there?
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