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Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 2 @ 10:11 PM ET
I can just feel your sarcasm here
- Réal_Ruelle


oh I used italics but I meant it more as a good thing, it's nice to just forget about everything and allow yourself to be a bit delusional from time to time lol
Réal_Ruelle
Montreal Canadiens
Location: 3333 pommes, NT
Joined: 01.13.2021

May 2 @ 10:18 PM ET
oh I used italics but I meant it more as a good thing, it's nice to just forget about everything and allow yourself to be a bit delusional from time to time lol
- Pat1993


Sorry, i blame the martinican White rum, but it was an italics joke again for me.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 2 @ 10:55 PM ET
Sorry, i blame the martinican White rum, but it was an italics joke again for me.
- Réal_Ruelle



Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 2 @ 11:10 PM ET
Got up late this morning so didn’t real La Presse +, you guys’ comments earlier got me wondering if all that stuff about Hartley was general knowledge, just opened la Presse + and I know where the info came from, that will teach me to lie in instead of reading the news in the morning lol...
bosman
Joined: 07.30.2010

May 2 @ 11:40 PM ET
is a 4 game sweep by the leafs count as an interesting end of season. buckle up ehhh
apex123
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.23.2016

May 3 @ 2:15 AM ET
is a 4 game sweep by the leafs count as an interesting end of season. buckle up ehhh
- bosman

Eh, it'll be interesting what happens after.
Sir Edward Longsha
Ottawa Senators
Location: Bowling Green, KY
Joined: 09.21.2020

May 3 @ 5:29 AM ET
is a 4 game sweep by the leafs count as an interesting end of season. buckle up ehhh
- bosman

Then Boston eats you, again. Buckle up ehhh.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

May 3 @ 7:05 AM ET
Because i feel the best candidate should get the job not the best French speaking candidate. I write my blogs in both English and French because the Habs have fans who speak both of these languages and also because readers on Twitter asked me if I could possibly do it since their English wasn’t good enough to understand everything. One has nothing to do with the other, if you ask me.
- Karine Hains


Well. I don’t think you should shame the team for doing the same thing you are doing... catering to one segment of fans.
Pat1993
Montreal Canadiens
Location: disguise delimit, QC
Joined: 08.28.2009

May 3 @ 7:38 AM ET
Well. I don’t think you should shame the team for doing the same thing you are doing... catering to one segment of fans.
- ChrisMS



yes, because having French as a hiring criteria for the coaching position in MTL and writing a blog in both languages are exactly the same thing... réveille osti lol
Karine Hains
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Lévis, QC
Joined: 10.27.2018

May 3 @ 8:26 AM ET
Well. I don’t think you should shame the team for doing the same thing you are doing... catering to one segment of fans.
- ChrisMS


LOL they would cater to all fans if they hired the best man for the job. The coach’s number one job is to win, not to communicate with the fans. There are journalists for that.
Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens
Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC
Joined: 02.25.2007

May 3 @ 8:52 AM ET
LOL they would cater to all fans if they hired the best man for the job. The coach’s number one job is to win, not to communicate with the fans. There are journalists for that.
- Karine Hains


There are plenty of quality coaches that speak french.

Now I'm all for getting the best possible person for the job, and if a candidate is obviously better, despite him not speaking french, the Habs should highly consider getting that candidate. The results will tell the whole story afterwards.

This being said, I don't remember a moment where such a possibility was THAT obvious. If you can hire a quality coach that can also communicate with the whole fanbase, why shouldn't you do it?

I'm sure the team's results would have been very similar these last few years if we replaced Therrien/Julien/Ducharme with another coach, because the players involved would remain the same.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 3 @ 8:58 AM ET
There are plenty of quality coaches that speak french.

Now I'm all for getting the best possible person for the job, and if a candidate is obviously better, despite him not speaking french, the Habs should highly consider getting that candidate. The results will tell the whole story afterwards.

This being said, I don't remember a moment where such a possibility was THAT obvious. If you can hire a quality coach that can also communicate with the whole fanbase, why shouldn't you do it?

I'm sure the team's results would have been very similar these last few years if we replaced Therrien/Julien/Ducharme with another coach, because the players involved would remain the same.

- Scabeh

At the end of the day there is no "hero" coach. Coach Q finally has Florida playing well, but last year they were mediocre again. Is his influence a big reason? Undoubtedly, but so is player development, new looks, circumstances etc.

The optics of the situation in Montreal are much worse than the reality.

Nobody will hire Swedish/Finnish/Russian etc. coaches and nobody seems to give a poop about that despite the "talent pool."
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

May 3 @ 9:00 AM ET
There are plenty of quality coaches that speak french.

Now I'm all for getting the best possible person for the job, and if a candidate is obviously better, despite him not speaking french, the Habs should highly consider getting that candidate. The results will tell the whole story afterwards.

This being said, I don't remember a moment where such a possibility was THAT obvious. If you can hire a quality coach that can also communicate with the whole fanbase, why shouldn't you do it?

I'm sure the team's results would have been very similar these last few years if we replaced Therrien/Julien/Ducharme with another coach, because the players involved would remain the same.

- Scabeh


People were screaming for the Habs to hire Babcock just before the Leafs did.

I also remember the same thing for Dan Bylsma when he was hired by Buffalo. Where are they now?
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 3 @ 9:15 AM ET
canada, hello.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 3 @ 9:22 AM ET
At the end of the day there is no "hero" coach. Coach Q finally has Florida playing well, but last year they were mediocre again. Is his influence a big reason? Undoubtedly, but so is player development, new looks, circumstances etc.

The optics of the situation in Montreal are much worse than the reality.

Nobody will hire Swedish/Finnish/Russian etc. coaches and nobody seems to give a poop about that despite the "talent pool."

- AdamFrench


there are clearly coaches who are able to get the best out of their rosters but i think they are few and far between. i think Barry Trotz is now the gold standard for that. Quenneville is another good example. Panthers were pretty solid when the season ended last year despite goaltending being a huge issue. and i still Torts, as batpoop as he is, gets more out of his rosters than anyone else would.
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 3 @ 9:22 AM ET
People were screaming for the Habs to hire Babcock just before the Leafs did.

I also remember the same thing for Dan Bylsma when he was hired by Buffalo. Where are they now?

- stinger67


yeah i do not remember this at all
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 3 @ 9:29 AM ET
canada, hello.
- kicksave856

what's up US of A
Takemedrunkimhome
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 03.08.2018

May 3 @ 9:29 AM ET
There are plenty of quality coaches that speak french.

Now I'm all for getting the best possible person for the job, and if a candidate is obviously better, despite him not speaking french, the Habs should highly consider getting that candidate. The results will tell the whole story afterwards.

This being said, I don't remember a moment where such a possibility was THAT obvious. If you can hire a quality coach that can also communicate the whole fanbase, why shouldn't you do it?

I'm sure the team's results would have been very similar these last few years if we replaced Therrien/Julien/Ducharme with another coach, because the players involved would remain the same.

- Scabeh

DD can barely communicate with media and fans in either language
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 3 @ 9:30 AM ET
back to reality tonight. Would be nice to find a way to jump Winterpeg in the standings and face EDM in the first round
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 3 @ 9:30 AM ET
what's up US of A
- Symba007

back in the office full time starting today.

so i'm surrounded by idiots.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 3 @ 9:31 AM ET
there are clearly coaches who are able to get the best out of their rosters but i think they are few and far between. i think Barry Trotz is now the gold standard for that. Quenneville is another good example. Panthers were pretty solid when the season ended last year despite goaltending being a huge issue. and i still Torts, as batpoop as he is, gets more out of his rosters than anyone else would.
- DoubleDown

Trotz does seem to be as close as we come to that ideal. Though it is interesting that it's always framed as him elevating teams that aren't as good. I wonder how much of it is Mitch Korn who is the goalie coach he has worked with most of his career. How many Vezina level goalie performances has he been able to get out of the dozens of goalies on his teams? It's kind of nuts. (frank) Korn was Hasek's goalie coach during his destroying phase.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 3 @ 9:34 AM ET
back in the office full time starting today.

so i'm surrounded by idiots.

- kicksave856

covidiots?
DoubleDown
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Not to point any fingers but Tyson Barrie has looked awful in the blue and white for the Leafs., QC
Joined: 07.28.2006

May 3 @ 9:36 AM ET
back to reality tonight. Would be nice to find a way to jump Winterpeg in the standings and face EDM in the first round
- Symba007


you never know. at some point the Leafs are going to power it down a bit here in the final 5-6 games. they could be vulnerable.
kicksave856
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i love how not saying dumb things on the internet was never an option.
Joined: 09.29.2005

May 3 @ 9:37 AM ET
covidiots?
- Symba007

hopefully not. we keep most of them out in the shop. although we hired 2 girls out of high school and they're both covidiots. no masks. you know the type. one of them has an uncle that died from it and i've never seen her with a mask on even one time.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: You are all perennial cynical sissies , ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

May 3 @ 9:37 AM ET
you never know. at some point the Leafs are going to power it down a bit here in the final 5-6 games. they could be vulnerable.
- DoubleDown

they get to pick who they want in the first round...take it easy and allow MTL to jump over WPG or beat up MTL a few more times and increase the odds of playing them in the first round. They decide how they want to do this
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